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    Does anybody know some good Archtop Guitar shops in Germany/UK/NL...

    I know Foulds in UK. I wrote a question via email, but they never answered...

    Best Regards and sorry for the bad english skills.

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    Foulds in the UK is good. If you email them, write ''attention Dan Johnson'' in the subject line, otherwise it may get lost, as they don't only sell jazz guitars.
    Another UK archtop place is Ivor Mairants in London. Many, or maybe most, archtops are traded privately on the net in the UK; try guitarmart. Some vintage arch tops are traded by Denmark St ( London) shops such as Vintage & Rare Guitars, but they are top end instruments.

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    Frans Elferink in the Netherlands builds excellent sounding, all-carved archtops with lots of models to choose from and freedom for your own input

    His prices are very competitive, especially for a European builder, about 2900 euro and up depending on your requirements.

    Elferink Guitars





    In germany try Sonntag ; very nice guitars although more expensive
    Last edited by fws6; 03-22-2012 at 06:47 AM.
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    Thank you. More suggestions are welcome.
    Elferink Guitars are really beautiful, but I am looking for a cheaper guitar that I don`t have to worry about when it is left in my car trunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwater View Post
    .... I am looking for a cheaper guitar that I don`t have to worry about when it is left in my car trunk.
    You should worry about all guitars - even the cheapest - when they are left in a car trunk. A car trunk and trhe interior of a car can be VERY hot in the sun, and glues can melt. Bucky Pizzarelly has told about when left a Gibson L5 in a car trunk in the sun. When he opened the case, the guitar came out in pieces - top, sides, back, neck. He had to take it to a luthier to have it glued back together again and set up.

    Morale: Don't ever leave guitars in a parked car outdoors.

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    if you've got nothing against froggies try:
    Guitare Village, magasin et école de musique à Domont, 95 - Val d'Oise guitares neuf et occasion
    they have a big shop near Paris and a lot of used archtops (click "occasion") and new ones too...

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    Yes, I've been to Guitare Village last weekend, they have a nice collection of Ibanez 2355 (the best Gibson 175 copy ever) and other vintage guitars. Price go from 1000 - 4500€. Very nice people, will let you spend half a day in their trying room...

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    Those Jaen guitars look beautiful!

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    Hello Redwater!

    I know a good website, where you can find plenty of archtops. The sellers are from worldwide, a lot of guys offer archtops from Germany, also

    give it a shot:

    Vintage Guitars - Buy Vintage Guitars for sale online | Vintage Guitars on Vintage & Rare

    laci

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    You could try this one:

    home

    I don't think he has a shop you can look around, but he is prepared to travel (to meet in Koln or Munchen, for example).
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    Thanks Pierrot for the link to Jaen Guitars.
    I 'm found of the 18".
    I often go to Granada, not very far away from Jaen, and will try to visit this luthier as soon as possible
    Any idea about the prices?....

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    Thank you so much everyone. I think I will find a guitar for me.
    I Germany it is hard to find some Archtop dealers with plenty of different Archtops.
    By the way: I know how to handle a guitar. It was more of a metaphor for a cheaper guitar that I am looking for instead of a custom made instrument by a luthier... Think Eastman instead of Sonntag :-)

    EDIT: These Jaen Guitars are really nice. I did not find any Prices on his Website. Does anybody know the pricerange of these guitars?

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    This lutier do not answer for questions...:-(

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    Hi guys,

    I have no relation with Jaen, I'm just a happy custommer. That said, my Jaen is a Jamaica, which is a small body (15") thin guitar with flat back. It is all solid, is very comfortable to play and sounds very nice.
    I must say that I changed the Seymour Duncan Jazz II PU which was originally mounted. I first tried a Benedetto A6, (had it mounted for one year) and as I wasn't yet completely satisfied, (some kind of brightness on the upper strings I didn't like) I finally went to a Gibson Classic 57. Everything is fine now;-)

    This guitar was tagged at 2400€ when I bought it, two or three years ago.
    I think you have to calculate 3500€ for a 16". No idea of the price of a 17".
    Just ask him, he is a nice person..

    There is a Rialto for sale in AGL in Majadahonda (Madrid) for 3100€.
    Agl Musical - Instrumentos musicales

    You'll have to select "guitarras de jazz" in the menu "familia"

    Here are some pics of my Jamaica...

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    >I Germany it is hard to find some Archtop dealers with plenty of different Archtops.

    Sure. This is the same anywhere. People always fantasize that in another city there will be a shop carrying everything. Well there isnt. Archtops pretty much are a niche market so no single shop in Germany Netherlands or UK will carry more than a few. The shops might list them as available on order through their websites but for sure dont have them in stock in the shop. They just dont sell enough archtops (compared to LP and Strats) to have large selections of such instruments in stock.

    Better mention too what your price range is first before suggesting everyone you are looking for high quality archtop - and then telling in hindsight youre actually looking for a run of the mill Eastman on a tight budget. If you say that 2900 for the Elferink is way too much there is no use people suggesting Jean or other individual luthiers who all will be above that mark significantly.
    "Oh, those jazz guys are just making that stuff up!" - Homer

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    Quote Originally Posted by mambosun View Post
    Thanks Pierrot for the link to Jaen Guitars.
    I 'm found of the 18".
    I often go to Granada, not very far away from Jaen, and will try to visit this luthier as soon as possible
    Any idea about the prices?....
    Guitars Jaen are not in the province of Jaen, but in the village of Horcajo de Santiago (Cuenca), a distance of 100 km. of Madrid.

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    who is playing these guitars? I mean artist with good name...:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlescountry View Post
    Guitars Jaen are not in the province of Jaen, but in the village of Horcajo de Santiago (Cuenca), a distance of 100 km. of Madrid.
    Thanks for your info.

    Beside this, Cuenca is a very nice touristic place to visit...

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    Jazzisten In Denmark

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    who is playing these guitars? I mean artist with good name...:-)
    Vive la politesse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierrot View Post
    Vive la politesse!
    ?

    not a problem at all....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fws6 View Post
    >I Germany it is hard to find some Archtop dealers with plenty of different Archtops.

    Sure. This is the same anywhere. People always fantasize that in another city there will be a shop carrying everything. Well there isnt. Archtops pretty much are a niche market so no single shop in Germany Netherlands or UK will carry more than a few. The shops might list them as available on order through their websites but for sure dont have them in stock in the shop. They just dont sell enough archtops (compared to LP and Strats) to have large selections of such instruments in stock.

    Better mention too what your price range is first before suggesting everyone you are looking for high quality archtop - and then telling in hindsight youre actually looking for a run of the mill Eastman on a tight budget. If you say that 2900 for the Elferink is way too much there is no use people suggesting Jean or other individual luthiers who all will be above that mark significantly.
    I can`t see where I suggested everyone that i am looking for a high quality Archtop. I just asked for some good shops. You came up with the Elferink suggestion. I never asked for Luthier suggestions too. I just mentioned that Jaen builds some nice guitars and wondered about the prices because he does not list them on his Website.
    On the other hand: I am not the only one who reads this thread, so maybe someone else will buy a Jaen or Elferink in the future... :-)

    My Pricerange is about 1000-1500€ Thats why I tend to look for a used Guitar.
    Last edited by redwater; 03-25-2012 at 01:53 PM.

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    Elferink guitars are great sounding instruments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwater View Post
    Thank you. More suggestions are welcome.
    Elferink Guitars are really beautiful, but I am looking for a cheaper guitar that I don`t have to worry about when it is left in my car trunk.
    These are new to the market and are only available in the UK at the moment.


    This is a thinline version of an ES175 and is priced at £360/EU$430

    Here's a link to their site
    Sutherland Trading RT-75

    Cheap enough for the car?
    “When a wise man points at the moon the fool considers the finger.”

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    Hand made Archtop Guitars in high quality are avaiable also in Slovenia. Luthier produces them in a small workshop, almost 100% hand made. They are hand carved, solid wood, air dryed for several years.
    Avaiable also custom models.
    www.glasbila-erman.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkatten View Post
    Jazzisten In Denmark

    good suggestion!

    They even sell jazz-amps like jazzamp, jazzcat and quilter-amps, which is really uncommon for a european seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwater View Post
    Thank you so much everyone. I think I will find a guitar for me.
    I Germany it is hard to find some Archtop dealers with plenty of different Archtops.
    By the way: I know how to handle a guitar. It was more of a metaphor for a cheaper guitar that I am looking for instead of a custom made instrument by a luthier... Think Eastman instead of Sonntag :-)

    EDIT: These Jaen Guitars are really nice. I did not find any Prices on his Website. Does anybody know the pricerange of these guitars?
    Have you tried Thomanns their prices are quite good? they stock guitars right up to L5's etc. The Ibanez range is very good and affordable.

    http://www.thomann.de/gb/semiacoustic_guitars.html
    Last edited by TonyB56; 04-19-2014 at 05:46 AM.

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    This thread is 2 years old I am sure the OP has found a guitar by now
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    For sure I did!

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    lol I never noticed, my eyes must be going along with everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redwater View Post
    Thank you. More suggestions are welcome.
    Elferink Guitars are really beautiful, but I am looking for a cheaper guitar that I don`t have to worry about when it is left in my car trunk.
    Whoa!

    You could try a Normandy archtop made of aluminium. But the neck is still made of wood so even this one would suffer in the trunk of your car.

    Aluminum Guitars Chrome Guitar Archtop Bass Normandy Guitars

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    So in 2019, where can you buy high end arch tops?

    Also I’m going to Italy soon, any good stores there?

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    I was on tour in Austria/Germany recently, ran across this luthier's shop in Graz. He had a lot of interesting instruments, a German-tradition archtop, baroque instruments, pointy shredder guitars, 5 & 6 string basses. Only played them for bit,but all seemed well made

    13 Custom Instruments – Instrumentenbau in Graz

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    Moin!

    Liberty Music (Home) by Ernst Weinbach is a dedicated archtop seller, who also carries amps (e.g. Henriksen) and cabs (e.g. his own & my TOOB) for jazz guitar. Ernst's biggest seller is Eastman, but he has other new and used archtops available, including Jaen and Benedetto. He's also extremely networked, e.g. to Japan. He ships everywhere.

    Did you know that, in the nearby town of Kandel, an Archtop Forum has been organized several times? For some reason, they skipped 2018 and 2019, at one point considering to move the event inside the new and hugely successful Guitar Summit event in Mannheim. Apparently, this did not work out, so the next Archtop Forum will be held in 2020. It's been Novemberish in the past.

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    This: Rialto


    VS

    This:

    Benedetto Custom 16 B 2018 Black pearl | Reverb


    Both would potentially be bought untried, so I am a little crazy...

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    One thing with European archtop dealers is they tend to sell some brands at prices 20 % to 30 % higher than American ones. Eastman and Gibsons, two very differents brands, would be a case in point. I don't understand why Eastmans should be more expensive in Europe, for instance; I would never buy a Gibson at their normal European prices. Japanese brands, whether MIJ or MIC, are less affected. What could be the reason, is it simply market size (i.e. more guitar players, buying more guitars in the US)? Often though, prices are just not competitive, and buying from the US, or even while travelling to the US makes more sense; and a guitar can ship from Japan in two days.

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    VAT alone explains that... sales tax in the US is much lower.

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    I’m seriously thinking about buying that 16B


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    Yup. E.g. Germany 19%, Finland 24%, Hungary 27% vs 0-7% in the USA and up to 13% or so in Canada. However, EU vendors selling outside the Community do not have to charge VAT, whereby Thomann, for example, should be quite competitive from a US perspective. Of course, it makes little sense to send US-made stuff back to the States from Europe. Another curse for occasional and small-time vendors, probably irrespective of location, is the high shipping rates. For instance, the Finnish Post requires 200 parcels per year to offer corporate rates - irrespective of the value of the typical shipment. The courier companies transport stuff from Germany at half the rate of what it would cost to return the same thing. Aargh! There's no justice!

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    Saving some money for D'Angelico New Yorker copy that a Dutch luthier Wout Bosma would build me. A great luthier located in Dordrecht, NL.

    Welcome at Bosma Guitars