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  1. #26

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    Looks OK to me, but I'm guessing you won't get to try before you buy?

    that's always too bad, because pictures don't tell 1/2 the story.

    but hey, it's a lefty Dot ! what could possibly go wrong . . .

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  3. #27

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    You can get a new one with case for $285.
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    Let's look at it this way: how bad would it be if it's a Chinese copy of a guitar that's already a Chinese copy of another guitar? I don't think I would worry.

    I only think the price is a bit on the high side for a used instrument, but left handed guitars usually go for a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNAPPI
    Heeyyy... I'm lefty, and play with my LEFT HAND on the neck, so I'm playing LEFTY.

    Think on this...

    Say my LEFT hand is torn off in an industrial accident, and I have a claw fitted to it.

    I would then have to learn ALL the music on my RIGHT hand and strum with my left arm with the claw. Maybe years to pass by before I learned much.

    Now, if my RIGHT hand were torn off, and it were fitted with a claw, with my LEFT HAND I could EASILY play John Denver, the Beatles hell most any music strumming with a claw on my right hand because the MUSIC is in my LEFT hand. All you right handed folks, Get it? the MUSIC IS IN MY LEFT HAND!!!

    Jeez, the git even points LEFT when I play!

    You "righties" are sooo myopic doing it MY way and calling it right handed :-)
    Say whaat?! Too much information to process. Man you are lateralised dude!

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by little jay
    let's look at it this way: How bad would it be if it's a chinese copy of a guitar that's already a chinese copy of another guitar? I don't think i would worry.
    lmao :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbow
    Say whaat?! Too much information to process. Man you are lateralised dude!

    Lol
    In summary... "the MUSIC IS IN MY LEFT HAND"

    Nuff said :-)

  8. #32

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    I can't completely agree. It takes two hands to play a guitar, and both hold parts of the music and tone. So the music is in both hands, not just the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay
    Let's look at it this way: how bad would it be if it's a Chinese copy of a guitar that's already a Chinese copy of another guitar? I don't think I would worry.

    I only think the price is a bit on the high side for a used instrument, but left handed guitars usually go for a little more.
    True. Obtaining an unauthentic guitar then somehow getting that "Epiphone" head stock would probably cost more than a legit one. Its like a Citizen watch, its a great watch but hardly worth counterfeiting.

  10. #34

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    I can see someone counterfeiting an early D'Angelico, or even a Gibson, but an Epi Dot? The counterfeiting effort would cost more than the guitar could be sold for. It's pointless. You never see counterfeit one dollar bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    I can see someone counterfeiting an early D'Angelico, or even a Gibson, but an Epi Dot? The counterfeiting effort would cost more than the guitar could be sold for. It's pointless. You never see counterfeit one dollar bills.
    Sounds reasonable. I did not mean especially counterfeiting, instead just some hacking, hiding a damage, or replacing things. All those things are not cool.

    Anyway I think I was overworrying this...

    Thanks for all.
    Last edited by Gabor; 01-30-2017 at 09:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    I can see someone counterfeiting an early D'Angelico, or even a Gibson, but an Epi Dot? The counterfeiting effort would cost more than the guitar could be sold for. It's pointless. You never see counterfeit one dollar bills.
    There was an interesting thread on this topic last year on the Epi board. The theory was that it is easier to get away with counterfeit Epi's as opposed to Gibson's as Gibson buyers may have higher expectations regarding fit and finish.

    Epi Les Paul fakes are out there and not hard to find. Not surpringing to see a suspect Dot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archtop Bill
    There was an interesting thread on this topic last year on the Epi board. The theory was that it is easier to get away with counterfeit Epi's as opposed to Gibson's as Gibson buyers may have higher expectations regarding fit and finish.

    Epi Les Paul fakes are out there and not hard to find. Not surpringing to see a suspect Dot.
    I guess the quality of the counterfeits is just as good as the originals then, since they use the same cheap parts and are probably even made in factories that produce for Epiphone as well......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Jay
    I guess the quality of the counterfeits is just as good as the originals then, since they use the same cheap parts and are probably even made in factories that produce for Epiphone as well......
    A couple of those Chibson YouTube videos showed that they use Epiphone pickups so they could be the exact same guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archtop Bill
    There was an interesting thread on this topic last year on the Epi board. The theory was that it is easier to get away with counterfeit Epi's as opposed to Gibson's as Gibson buyers may have higher expectations regarding fit and finish.

    Epi Les Paul fakes are out there and not hard to find. Not surpringing to see a suspect Dot.
    My expectations of an Epi are high and expectations of Gibson "fit and finish" gets lower all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GNAPPI
    My expectations of an Epi are high and expectations of Gibson "fit and finish" gets lower all the time.
    I hear you. This is why I am playing a Tele rather than a Les Paul.

  17. #41

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    My understanding of Asian counterfeiting is this...

    Big western company wants cheaper manufactured product.

    Pays money to set up manufacturing plant with CNC tooling as staffing costs and readily available materials easily sourced locally.

    New facility churns out X amount of product.

    Contract ends and its financially cheaper to leave CNC tooling behind.

    Asian company makes own brand with same shape and dimensions but with cheaper materials.

    This is why Fender and Gibson have their own factories in Asia. One could also argue that some western branded instruments have wood components that are made overseas and then put together in the west. (Hagstrom and Horner come to mind)

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    I'm new to the dot. Can't figure out the volume pots. Tell me if this is how they should work please.........When the switch is in the middle, if I have both volumes turned down..... If I bring up the bottom volume I get level....... If I turn that pot down..... And raise the top pot I get no volume until I bring the bottom pot back up...... Then both pots effect the level???

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    I bought a Korean dot from a band mate and he put JB pups in there. Sounds great. Punches above its weight for the price. Its about 10 years old I think. Maybe I got lucky.

  20. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairyhatman
    I bought a Korean dot from a band mate and he put JB pups in there. Sounds great. Punches above its weight for the price. Its about 10 years old I think. Maybe I got lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noisy
    I'm new to the dot. Can't figure out the volume pots. Tell me if this is how they should work please.........When the switch is in the middle, if I have both volumes turned down..... If I bring up the bottom volume I get level....... If I turn that pot down..... And raise the top pot I get no volume until I bring the bottom pot back up...... Then both pots effect the level???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timo
    I recently played one of the new Epi es 339s - I was very impressed! Only $439.00 in Canada. Comes close to my Gibson 335 in the sound and the feel
    The EPI ES-339 Pro is my main test guitar, in that use since I started making TOOB cabs in early 2017. Gosh, time to change strings I guess. It's very versatile but somehow lacks the mojo (I'd define it as acoustic liveliness) of a good 335-sized axe.The Epi Dot has always figured, but now I'm leaning towards a non-centerblock thinbody, i.e. the Epi Casino. That's likely to be my latest last guitar.

  23. #47

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    I always found the same priced Ibanez semihollows to be a level above Epiphone dot in sound, quality, and playability.

  24. #48

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    Within those 8 years, Epiphone has REALLY upped their game. So much competition today, as seen at NAMM 2020. Their guitars, the tone woods, construction, and hardware + electronics are leaps and bounds ahead of what they used to supply. I know, I have always shopped and tried them, having owned some old Epi's and Gibsons, I wanted to like them, and wished for their success. But my newest EPI, the 335 Pro (Limited Edition?) is just killer. Played on the gig yesterday (all stock) and with a Princeton Reverb, a Boss '59 Bassman pedal, I thought I was playing a beefy sounding Les Paul with tremendous lower mids, and singing sustaining highs.
    Just one wonderful experience with this guitar!. And it's versatile. On sale at MF!!!! I may buy a backup.