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  1. #51

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    Those are some gorgeous guitars, and the couch is indeed nice as well. Sorry for being late to the party.

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    The party has been over for quite some time, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    ...More to come.
    Yes, please! Also, the party ain't over till it's over. Especially with a guitar like that.

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    I measured the fretbord radius on two Chancellors and will check two other Chancellors. I'll also measure a couple of Jazzicas and New Presidents. The fretboard of each Chancellor has a compound radius, from 7 1/4" at the nut end to @9 1/2" at the body end. Now I know - previously I just played the things and was impressed with their comfort and playability.

    Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
    Last edited by Hammertone; 05-25-2019 at 01:55 AM.

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    Now that's interesting! A compound radius and a pretty round one on top of that. I like a radius like that on a Fender style guitar but even there I'd prefer it a little flatter. I've never played a Chancellor but I would certainly be interested in trying one. Maybe it is perfectly comfortable. The nut width and neck thickness are are exactly how I like it. Thanks a lot for taking your time to measure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter
    Now that's interesting! A compound radius and a pretty round one on top of that. I like a radius like that on a Fender style guitar but even there I'd prefer it a little flatter. I've never played a Chancellor but I would certainly be interested in trying one. Maybe it is perfectly comfortable. The nut width and neck thickness are are exactly how I like it. Thanks a lot for taking your time to measure!
    Well, American Guitar Shop in Berlin has one - why don't you go over there and try it out, since you are also in Berlin? Not suggesting you buy theirs - it seems to be a bit overpriced IMO, but it would certainly give you an idea of what the model is all about.
    They are at Goethestraße 32/49, 10625 Berlin | Phone: +49 30 31504644

    Beyer's has one and they are near Essen - not sure if you ever get over there from Berlin - bit of a drive.

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    Indeed, there's one available at the American Guitar store, I didn't know that, thanks for pointing it out. Very pricey though, you're right, don't think it'll sell anytime soon. I should give it a try some time, although I'd be risking a bad case of GAS once again.

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    Höfner plus Berlin spells Guitar Doc in Köpenicker Straße. He has new old stock, too - discovered bodies and necks from the sixties and built new guitars from them.


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    I know Guitar Doc has a bunch of crappy laminated thinline Ovation Hurricane bodies, made by Hofner. I suspect that the really hideous Gumby-looking Thunderhead/Tornado/Typhoon bodies were not made by Hofner, but I don't care enough to find out.

    Does Guitar Doc have any Höfner Chancellors?
    The Chancellor at the American Guitar store is worth trying so that you can see for yourself what the fuss is about.

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    Don't like the guitar doc, I have been there once and though he was mighty arrogant. There are great and friendly luthiers in town, no need to bother the doc. I'll pay a visit to the American Guitar Shop but I will need a day off and nothing else to be on my to do list, don't know when that will be. I'll post my impressions here after I have played a Chancellor.

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    HT, looks like lots of guitar companies are rethinking their commitments to the archtop. It has happened before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    The party has been over for quite some time, actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone
    As of May, 2019, the Chancellor has disappeared from Hofner's website. I certainly don't see them trying to get back into the archtop marketplace anytime soon, let alone make more Chancellors
    And, as of July 2019, there are no archtop guitars listed on Hofner's website.
    As of October 2019, there are a few archop guitars listed on Hofner's website.
    Frankly, my interpretation of this is that they have one of each.
    Last edited by Hammertone; 11-03-2019 at 12:38 AM.

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    I finally got to play that Chancellor at the American Guitar Shop and it was an interesting experience indeed. As expected, it is an exquisite guitar in all aspects. Coming from a Crimson L5 CES the neck felt a little fatter and just a tiny bit wider. Alas I didn't like the strings and it wasn't setup to my liking so it didn't play as easily as my L5 but I am sure that I could set it up to my preferences with the strings I prefer so that it would play like butter. The radius wasn't an issue at all, it just felt right. The acoustic tone is strong and beautiful but didn't quite have the same finesse as a Heritage Golden Eagle I once owned but sold for its skinny neck. Then again, it is a nearly new guitar and I am sure that the tone will develop the more it is played. The electric tone is heavenly as expected. Don't know about feedback, I just played very softly in a small cabin in the store.

    Interestingly this guitar already has a story to tell - it has been sold once to a German celebrity who took it on a hiking trip (yikes) and returned it afterwards in a state so beat-up that the shop had to return it to Hofner to have it refinished. Not sure why they took it back in the first place. And when inspected closely, it seems to have gotten a beating since then as well, quite a few superficial scratches, all in all slightly used condition as typically seen on floor models in guitar stores. Nothing to care about if you're a player but still an argument for price negotiations, especially in that price range. As is the refinish of course. Well, the offer they have made will probably not keep me awake at night. I really liked the guitar but it wasn't love at first sight, mostly because of the strings and setup. And I don't think that they will sell it anytime soon for the price they are asking. I wish them good luck though, that shop is certainly the most likeable guitar store in town, always has been.

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    Cool. That guitar appears to have a shellac finish, like a violin. Very soft, very scratchable, but infinitely repairable. Most likely, Hofner didn't refinish the guitar, they just had one of their violin finish guys "French Polish" it, adding and amalgamating shellac to restore the original finish.

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    You're probably right. I have zero experience with shellac finishes. It didn't look so different to a nitro finish though. Either way, it is very beautiful.