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    I know Tim could make a Temu tele sound great, but seriously- the Sire sounds really good! And I really like the aesthetic...



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    Tim could make a barn door sing. Trust me, this one passed through his hands and out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    I know Tim could make a Temu tele sound great, but seriously- the Sire sounds really good! And I really like the aesthetic...


    Just add Bigsby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Just add Bigsby!
    ooooh.......

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    Sounds great! I wonder how good the setup is out of the box and what, if any, additional work is needed to bring out the potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    Sounds great! I wonder how good the setup is out of the box and what, if any, additional work is needed to bring out the potential.
    Yeah... I understand why Tim doesn't do reviews, only demos. But it would be cool to actually get a review of the guitar's workmanship, pickups, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    I know Tim could make a Temu tele sound great, but seriously- the Sire sounds really good! And I really like the aesthetic...


    It’s not really a Temu guitar. $659 ain’t chump change.

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    I think the Larry Carlton line are made in Indonesia. But a lot of the Sire line is made in China. Best to buy now before the tariffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    It’s not really a Temu guitar. $659 ain’t chump change.

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    I think the Larry Carlton line are made in Indonesia. But a lot of the Sire line is made in China. Best to buy now before the tariffs.
    I know it's not Temu. My point was, Tim could play a piece of junk and make it sound good. I know the Sire guitars are Carlton's thing. Which is why I would actually consider getting one.

    And in today's guitar world, $659 IS "chump change", unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    I know it's not Temu. My point was, Tim could play a piece of junk and make it sound good. I know the Sire guitars are Carlton's thing. Which is why I would actually consider getting one.

    And in today's guitar world, $659 IS "chump change", unfortunately.
    You can get a new Squier Tele for a lot less, cheapest one $199. And of course tons on the used market for a couple hundred.

    Or build one from parts as I did for ~$300.

    $659 to me is like a step up from base car model, i.e., “Sport”. Has alloy wheels and wireless CarPlay, but no moonroof or heated steering wheel. Still a decent deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    You can get a new Squier Tele for a lot less, cheapest one $199. And of course tons on the used market for a couple hundred.

    Or build one from parts as I did for ~$300.

    $659 to me is like a step up from base car model, i.e., “Sport”. Has alloy wheels and wireless CarPlay, but no moonroof or heated steering wheel. Still a decent deal.
    I've been reading (and watching) about the Sires. They are a couple steps up (at least) from Squiers. Some put them on par with USA production Fenders. That's damned impressive. And when a Mexico Fender is over $1000, $659 for a the Sire that's as good as an $1300 MIM or $2300 MIA Fender... that's chump change in comparison. You're getting MORE than you paid for, which is not the case with Squiers (I've owned a couple).

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    The reviews on the Sires (particularly any of them associated with Carlton) have been very positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    I know it's not Temu. My point was, Tim could play a piece of junk and make it sound good. I know the Sire guitars are Carlton's thing. Which is why I would actually consider getting one.

    And in today's guitar world, $659 IS "chump change", unfortunately.
    Yeah, $659 is really cheap for a guitar that's any good.

    Concerning Carlton, I've seen him twice with his Sire 335, after once with his 335, and I didn't think it was quite the tone that he had with the real thing. The first time I saw him I could tell his tone wasn't the same, before I knew it was the Sire. Just one person's opinion, they are still a good bang for buck.

    And of course it was still Carlton playing, so a minor quibble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruger9
    Yeah... I understand why Tim doesn't do reviews, only demos. But it would be cool to actually get a review of the guitar's workmanship, pickups, etc.
    Review next week on Tim's channel...


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    Yeah well, the last guitar I bought (and returned) has gotten great reviews Online, by many. Tim Lerch did not review it. Guys posting on the Gearpage about it are few (crickets).
    The reviewers don't assess the wood used, the p/up imbalances, and real nitty gritty tidbits. Sure they plug in and put on the OD pedal, with delay and reverb, and tell you "IT" really sings. And tell you it's great bang for the buck!

    But you DO have to buy it, live with it, play it a lot, in order to really know the guitar.

    Yeah I'm a bit bummed about my last purchase - I really wanted to make it work. The good news is that it's returnable.

    Caveat Emptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mack

    But you DO have to buy it, live with it, play it a lot, in order to really know the guitar.
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    100%. But reviews by trusted reviewers (Tim is one), not by people who obviously rave about everything they get to try so they can keep getting stuff to try and keep their channel alive, can be very worthy and helpful. Tim is honest, I trust what he has to say. But many YT channels make their living "reviewing" gear, and they aren't going to jeopardize that by being critical.

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    There was a comment on tariffs. They've been used in the past to protect American workers' jobs. Having grown up and lived in a city where Gibson the Heritage come from, there is an effect on the local economy from Asian guitars- no doubt. As I understand it now, the spectre of tariffs will likely be discussed as a threat or a bargaining chip. But they could happen. Again, this would be to protect American production.

    That said, Sires seem like excellent buys. Now's the time.

    I got a Gibson ES-345 recently. I could have saved a lot of money and got something similar with a H7. h7Sire Larry Carlton H7
    – Sire USA

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    I've never played any of these but the guys on Talkbass speak very highly, and consistently about the Sire basses (and have for a few years now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    There was a comment on tariffs. They've been used in the past to protect American workers' jobs. Having grown up and lived in a city where Gibson the Heritage come from, there is an effect on the local economy from Asian guitars- no doubt. As I understand it now, the spectre of tariffs will likely be discussed as a threat or a bargaining chip. But they could happen. Again, this would be to protect American production.

    That said, Sires seem like excellent buys. Now's the time.

    I got a Gibson ES-345 recently. I could have saved a lot of money and got something similar with a H7. h7Sire Larry Carlton H7
    – Sire USA
    Well at the risk of pushing this into a polarizing direction…Gibson, Fender et al sent a large part of their guitar manufacturing overseas to save money. If they sell fewer Epiphones and MIM Fenders etc because of tariffs, guess who will lose out—consumers AND Gibson and Fender.

    There is no way tariffs on foreign guitars are going to push production into the US. That ship has sailed. It WILL raise the price of all guitars, especially entry level.

    Sires is a Korean company. They have an American subsidiary, I think originally partnering with Marcus Miller. Like most people on this forum, I would like to buy the guitars I want from wherever they’re made. Anything that interferes with that is not free trade. It is an abomination.

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    Here's the review. Tim BOUGHT the guitar, it's an honest review.

    I still want one. I think those P90s sound great.


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    i had a sire jazz bass. It was an amazing instrument for the money but truly not in the same league as the current top of the line fender instrument. I suspect the same is true of all their budget instruments.

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    Hi all.
    I leaning towards purchasing the t7tm with p90's. I heard that there is an issue with the saddles/screws being positioned too close or on top of the screws holding the bridge to the guitar. Preventing proper intonation and action adjustments. Has anyone heard of this being true?

    Thanks

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    This sounds very nice. Sire does good work for the money.

    I have a Sire Marcus Miller M7 6 string bass and it's quite nice. There are some dead spots on the fretboard where the sustain drops off too fast. Maybe a good set up and fret dress would fix that. Otherwise, its well-built, plays well and sounds good.

    I also picked up Sire's new F10 5 string bass. It's based on the Fodera Imperial with the long slab of wood on the top side of the neck. I asked Sweatwater to PLEK it before shipping. My F10 is proving to be a great bass. I'll need a few more months to know for sure, but we're off to a great start.