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Not sure where to post this.. trying to buy something from Sweetwater but like so many international sellers these days they
don't ship to the UK but it's something I'd really like to get my hands on.
If someone would be willing to help you will be nicely rewarded.
Please send me a message.
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11-20-2024 08:46 PM
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Best to post a WTB (Want To Buy) request in the For Sale sub-forum for what you want, but be more specific, vagueness will get you ignored.
Originally Posted by Maxxx
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My apologies.
Suprema Jazz Recording (Single Channel) 1×12
https://www.rivera.com/product/combo...ingle-channel/Last edited by Maxxx; 11-21-2024 at 04:34 AM.
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I see.... have you played one of these? Seems like people either love them or hate them, e.g., the reviews on this older model at Reverb:
Rivera Suprema Jazz Amp
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Unfortunately I have not had a chance to try one.. they simply don't exist here.
But this is certainly closer to the tone I want on my L5 than I am getting on my Fender Twin and Fender Deluxe Reverb Hand Wired and my Princeton Reverb Hand Wired.
They all sound ok-ish with my Telecaster.. but with the L5 the sound is very scooped, too glassy and the beautiful mids and thick, dark woodiness is completely stripped away from this beautiful archtop on all 3 of the Fender amps.
Even my Roland JC-40 sounds better with the L5 than any of my Fender amps.
Quote from the review:
"This machine gives any jazz guitar a harsh, ugly brilliance, taking away all its warmth, making notes on the B and E string in the higher registers cold and painful. In my case, the amp bothers me so much that it makes me a worse player; it just doesn't "flow". I guess when you love acoustic archtops with dangly highs and want sparkly tone that rings like a bell, this amp can make sense. I tested it with different power tubes, a different speaker and both - literally everything seems to sound better than Rivera's choices. On their website, Rivera has a couple of different guys - all excellent players - demoing the amp. All sound relatively sharp and harsh. What's great is their playing, NOT the amp. Unless you want to sound exactly like those players and can handle the piercing treble while playing - stay away from this amp!
I am not hearing this 'piercing, harsh treble' he mentions at all in these clips. On my HS8 monitors they sound beautifully articulate, warm, woody and round.
Not here:
Or here:
Or here:
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It that amp even configurable to work in the uk? I seem to recall there may be different power and oulet designs some places overthere.
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Yeah, that's just one review about an older model so it may not apply. Originally Posted by Maxxx
But regarding your request, Sweetwater will ship the amp for free to a U.S. buyer so you don't need that person to pick up the amp in Indiana, just order it and forward it to you once they receive it. That would be easier because it will already be boxed up and ready to reship. I'm on the West coast, I think someone on the east coast could reship it to you for a much lower fee. You'll need to find out it's shipping weight so you can determine what it will cost to forward it to you. And you should check on the power plug voltage as Brian mentioned.
Did you contact Rivera to ask them if they have dealer who will ship to the UK?
One other thing: Sweetwater will be having a Black Friday sale so this amp may very well be discounted then.
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Thank you very much Mick.. some good points to check on especially the voltage issue. (cheers Brian) Originally Posted by Mick-7
Sweetwater have listed a couple of alternate European dealers but neither have any stock. Have messaged them both to see if they can order.
Also reached out to Rivera regarding voltage issue and the bright + harshness comment.
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Quote:
"If you have a Rivera amplifier and you're in a country where the power is 220 to 240 volts AC, you'll need to make
sure you have the correct power cord. For the United Kingdom, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand, Rivera builds
a special 250V version of their amplifiers to handle higher mains voltages."
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Cool. That would have sucked to go through all that and have it fried on contact. Oh, and while I'm thinking about it. There is another rivera designed amp, the fender princeton reverb II that does a good clean tone. They go for around $1000 here. There might be one lurking in your parts.
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I own this modern Rivera. It’s not harsh or trebly. Where in the world people come up with these comments I’ve no idea. In fact, this is my final amplifier, having owned 6 other large tube amps over 12 years. I highly recommend the amplifier.
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There is a website for the princeton II in the UK. The pastor that runs its a good guy to talk to. Get the right speaker in those and they are good. Might be another option. I also had a solid state yamaha amp rivera designed. Good amp too. Im sure his newer designs are good as well.
Unofficial Fender Princeton Reverb II page
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I hear it on all three of those videos. For the sound I am looking for, that amp would be on its way back to Sweetwater within about 20 minutes. But the great thing about music is everybody hears things differently and is looking for different things, so the same amp and guitar might work wonderfully for you and terribly for me. Originally Posted by Maxxx
I'm a little puzzled, though; you already have classic jazz guitar amps that you're not happy with. Many, many jazz guitarist have gotten wonderful tones out of exactly those amps. I wonder if you would be able to address that with EQ. You may already know this and maybe have tried it without success. Fender blackface/silverface amps have scooped midrange and usually no mids control. "Flat" response on those amps isn't with the tone knobs at 5; flat requires putting the bass and treble controls both at 0 and then bumping the volume up to compensate. If there is a mid control, set that at 10. I usually find I like the bass up a little higher than 0 but the treble down to 0 or maybe 0.5.
And pardon me if you already know this, but I find rolling the volume down to 7-8 on most guitars knocks off a little bit of the hard-sounding high end frequencies and warm things up a bit. On all of my guitars, the tone control seems to have a "shoulder" at which point it goes quickly from warm to muffled with just a couple of degrees of rotation; I find I like the tone control just barely on the bright side of that point. My only guitar that differs from that pattern is my ES-175, which has a much wider range of tone knob settings that I like. I don't know if that's the taper of the tone pot or something about the tonal response of the guitar itself.
It's a bit ironic. Jazz guitarists tend to think they should use archtop guitars and that they should have a dark, warm, fat tone; this is exactly the tone that the archtop guitar is not designed for: it's designed to be bright and cutting to be heard through a big band. I actually find it easier to get the dark, warm, fat tone on a solidbody guitar. However, to me at least, there is an undeniable romance to the archtop guitar shape and all those complex, sinuous curves. A lot of the great jazz guitarists had or have a bright tone: Charlie Christian, Tal Farlow, Jimmy Raney, Barney Kessel, Johnny Smith, Peter Bernstein, Joe Pass, Wes Montgomery, Jonathan Kreisberg, etc.
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I have the 25w Jazz Suprema. I also got it from Sweetwater.
Beautiful tone. Because I live in the USA the shipping was free.
These amps are very heavy. They are built like a tank. I suspect the overseas shipping would be very expensive.
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It's refreshing that people are still going down the tube/heavy amp route!!
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Go big or go home! Originally Posted by garybaldy
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The manual ( Dropbox ) on Rivera's website says... Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
Jazz Suprema 55 1x112 Dimensions and weight:
Height: 18" with rubber feet
Width: 23 3/4"
Depth: 12"
Weight: 49 lbs. (estimate)
Personally, I'd want to play an amp before spending over $2k on it.
I'm sure the shipping companies would heartily agree with that statement. Originally Posted by garybaldy
P.S. - There are quite a few forum threads on the Rivera Suprema amps: https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/sear...archid=2912258
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People want to play guitars before buying them too. Problem is that one limits themselves to only guitars in their local environment. Originally Posted by Mick-7
I’m different. I don’t need to play something before it arrives. I’ll play it when it arrives. I’ve purchased over 100 archtop’s that way. And how is anyone playing anything available for sale on this forum unless they bring it in. Well, different strokes for different folks.
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It's ideal to be able to play before you buy; unfortunately, it's almost impossible to do so most of the time. You would have to live somewhere like New York or Los Angeles or perhaps London, where there would be a lot of shops representing many different manufacturers.
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I understand but would you buy an expensive guitar or amp you cannot return? This is the problem the OP is likely to have if he does not order it directly from a dealer. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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Most expensive guitar I’ve ever purchased was a Super 400. There was no return. But neither did I desire one because the guitar was bought right. That’s the key to buying. Regarding returns, don’t buy anything you can’t resell if the guitar doesn’t meet your expectations or standards. Originally Posted by Mick-7
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You are going about it the hard way. Look here first: https://www.glbsound.com/ . Then here: Home | Brunetti Tube Amplification .
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Before you do anything get this: Empress ParaEq II. Put it before what amps you have currently.
It is not an amp problem; it is an EQ problem.
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^ Yep. Most people are mad at Eq tho lol. When it's the most indispensable tone shaping tool there is. Watch, he absolutely won't take you up on getting one. :P
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