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Hi, I'm going to see a used heritage h-575 soon. I have a curiosity in my mind. The price of the heritage is about the same as the new Ibanez lgb 300! This thing is making me crazy. Can you give me your opinion and impressions of the sound? Is the heritage so superior? Thanks
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10-29-2024 04:08 AM
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Good thing that you can try the H 575! Do you have a chance to try an LGB300 aswell? That would be the best solution! Do you know anyone who owns one (or a shop that has one you can try?)
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All I can say is that I have two H-575s. They are comfortable, easy to play, and sound great. All the same may be true of the Ibanez also.
It's difficult to tell what they sound like by videos. For classic jazz, I like flatwound 12s or 13s. The sound of 10s round wounds don't drive the top as much.
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no ibanez no
Originally Posted by frabarmus
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I personally would go with the Heritage without question assuming it meets the quality control requirements. It is an American Made Guitar and personally I think in the end will hold it value and esteem above an Ibanez. I also think it is a more capable guitar for different sounds.
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Hmm. I personally feel it’s an injustice to Heritage to even compare them. Made in America arch tops are at a premium. I don’t have any idea how the Ibanez is built. But still, a hand built American made guitar has to mean something? BTW, where’s that Heritage 575 that I purchased and sold for $1200? And who believes that one day they’d be selling for over $4k?!
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heritage si trova in Italia ?? Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
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I would suggest, if I may... go try the Heritage and if you like it buy it, if for whatever reason you don't like it, then consider the Ibanez. Originally Posted by Karlos
BTW, where exactly, in Italy, is the Heritage you're interested in? (Just curious).
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These are the H 575 I've found in Italy.
https://www.mercatinomusicale.com/an...heritage+h+575
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The main differences between these two fine archtops are that the Ibanez LGB300 is a top of the line, ornate signature guitar featuring ebony fretboard, pearl/abalone fret markers, multi-layer bindings and the typical excellent Japanese high quality. Also, don't confuse the LGB300 with the lower-end, but still nice, LGB30. Originally Posted by Karlos
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The Heritage H575 may be a fine archtop featuring solid carved top/back/sides. However, since Heritage offered them with a wide variety of features and custom upgrades, much will depend on the specific guitar you are interested in.
As others have suggested, try to play each of these guitars prior to purchase if possible.
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I really like Ibanez guitars and have had a GB10 for nearly 40 years, but I also would suggest very seriously considering the Heritage. I think it is a much better guitar. Here's a video with IMHO better demonstration of the tone:
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Try out as many guitars with similar specs as you can and pick the one you like without being biased by the name on the headstock. Over paying can easily be an exercise in pride and vanity as much as it can a tonal chase. Every piece of wood is different, therefore even two of the same guitar will have slight differences and so each guitar will have it's own voice, even if only marginally. However, live on stage and especially with a band people will have their tonal preferences, but in a blind test most cannot pick the "best", meaning $$$$ out of the lineup. You could spend big money and get an ok guitar or you could spend a modest amount and get something that was really nice. The more guitars you can lay hands on the better your chances become. I'd be looking at some Gibsons, Guilds, some Eastman's, and maybe some others too. Anything in a similar vein is worth considering these days. After applying this to my decision making process all I personally own today are guitars of Japanese origin. Good luck. Originally Posted by Karlos
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I've seen those too, but they're expensive! I have to admit that the 575 is a very divided guitar! There are those who love it and those who don't, this is very evident. I also have to admit that there aren't many guitar pros who use it. We'll see.. Originally Posted by frabarmus
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Two professional jazz artists who have been closely associated with the H575 are David Becker and Mimi Fox. Originally Posted by Karlos
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The build quality of an Ibanez Japan will be at least equal but you will pay a lot less, especially in Europe, where the price on some American instruments can be a bit of a rip off.
I would pay no attention to claims of the Ibanez being inferior... unless you heard any of big names who've recorded and toured Japanese guitars for many decades complain about them being inferior: Benson, Metheny, Scofield, Rosenwinkel, Lagrène... I haven't.
I would try both if you can, with no preconceptions, and get the one you like best.
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Not to those who know them. And they’re finished in nitrocellulose, which matters to me. There’s absolutely no shame, or division, in owning a Heritage. Originally Posted by Karlos
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I think you’re sweating it too much Karlos
There’s no best or perfect choice
do try a few out ,(note that ANY instrument will have some issues (set up etc) that you will want to tweak to your own quirks
It’s part of the process in getting the instrument ‘out of your way’
so that then you can just play it
play it a lot , and get good ….
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The blond John Smith Heritage looks exactly like mine? Yes Heritage guitars are usually up with the best. Naturally you have to check individual guitars but right now they are still not expensive even the best ones. Sleepers, I tell you. Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Not to those who know them. And they’re finished in nitrocellulose, which matters to me. There’s absolutely no shame, or division, in owning a Heritage.
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+1 for the 575, Ive had 5 and everyone of them was great. They are usually found with a thinner profile neck which I like but its important to play it first the neck sizes can vary, not sure about the newer models but the older ones were custom built guitars so lots of differences. Personally I wouldnt buy a new one a quick perusal through reverb and there are some really great deals. Also some have spruce tops so like a S16 with shorter scale and not all of them state that in the description. I had Shallers, SDs, HRWs and others and liked them all not a thought to change them. Super comfy to play. From a craftsmanship point of view the first shift hand built guitars to the same standards as Gibsons best (I havent played one newer than '18) Im in the US so availability and pricing here as I look I see 10 or more Id consider seriously (if I was buying) all aound $3k us. I would have loved to keep all of them but I had to make some choices. The one I kept I got from member wzpgsr. Spruce top 5pc 24/3/4 neck, Ebony fingerboard, TW Doyle single pickup. I mention this because I was not looking for a guitar when this came up (i thought i had all the good ones Marty hadnt collected yet) but had to have it glad I did. Be patient and keep your ear to the ground,youll find one or it will find you...or come to California where Im sure youll find something and you can get a good sauce at my house (it aint Italy but were from Jersey...we know sauce.) Good luck
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pingu has a good point, I have spent many hours over many years overthinking whether a guitar is "perfect." Ain't no such thing. The jazz greats just got a guitar and got on with it. Sometimes on my way out the door I have guitar paralysis- a Tele? The ES-175? The GB10? Gee, it's been a long time since I have taken out the... And so on.
I'd be better off with just one. And frankly any one of my guitars would do. If I ever get my act together, I think I'd just keep the GB10.
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I would go a step further and say the the build quality of Ibanez Japan will be superior. I've had little experience with Heritage, but plenty with Gibson, (arguably the same people and methods) and out of the box the GB line will always play and look great, the Gibson along with Heritage (from all I've read and seen) can get there, but not out of the box. So it's really down to preference. Playing them is best of course, but even then, at least for me, it takes some time to really evaluate. You never will really know until you own them. Roll the dice, it seems resale will be close on both. Not as powerful as Gibson by any means. Originally Posted by m_d
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Just curious, is it true that the heritage 575 needs setup when new? High fret capo, intonation, bridge string angle? Just curious.
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Hi, did you have to modify the action, capo, etc? Or were they already perfect? ??Thanks Originally Posted by Marty Grass
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It all would depend on you really. For me I'm pretty confident the answer would be yes! I have owned many guitars, and the only ones that could be easily set up to preference out of the box was Collings and oddly enough the Ibanez GB japan guitars. I like a really straight neck with low action and no buzz. Most new guitars can get there, but it will require some work. You might have different demands. Originally Posted by Karlos
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I don’t know many here that expect any new guitar to be “set up perfectly out of the box.” It’s a guitar, and being a guitar it’s expected to be fiddled with. And even if it’s so called “perfect”, it won’t remain that way, for it’s a guitar.
Aren’t there luthiers in Italy?
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