Biting the bullet on an ES-175

[wintermoon]

A sax player I know found a poor old woman whose husband, a pro sax player, just died. She was selling his Selmer mark VI, his Selmer Tenor, and and an expensive flute, and didn't know what they were worth and needed the money.The sax player said, "Look, I'll give ya 15k for all three instruments".
The woman took the deal, and the sleazy sax player wound up with three instruments probably worth 30k for only 15k.
When friends of her late husband told her she'd been ripped off, she tried to take the guy who bought them to court, but the judge threw the case out.
Moral of the story; let your heirs know how much your instruments are worth before you croak.

good deal for the sax player, not an awful deal for the old lady imo
it's much, much better than some of the stories I've heard of uninformed people being taken advantage of.

[Spook410]

Sorry for the way off topic.. but my plan is to be down to a single instrument when I pass. And at 70 it's not too soon to start that multi-year process.
Of course.. which instrument is to be the last, or even the last five or so is another matter.

[garybaldy]

Sorry for the way off topic.. but my plan is to be down to a single instrument when I pass. And at 70 it's not too soon to start that multi-year process.
Of course.. which instrument is to be the last, or even the last five or so is another matter.

That could take some clever planning

[2bornot2bop]

At today’s prices, no thank you. Should’ve purchased one when they were $2k.

[2bornot2bop]

Es-175 Premium. More like 1/4 to 1/5 the price of a Gibson. IMO (and many others’) they nail the sound. The necks are skinny, and the matte finishes are an acquired taste. But if those are not a problem for you, they’re great.

The blonde matte isn’t nearly as bad. This one has Lollar pickups and a new wiring harness. And was acquired very cheap.

[sgcim]

good deal for the sax player, not an awful deal for the old lady imo
it's much, much better than some of the stories I've heard of uninformed people being taken advantage of.

One sax player friend of mine got so turned off by what the sax player did, he's calling for a universal boycott on anyone having anything to do with him.

But he always hated the guy anyway, because the sax player always hogs all the solos on gigs, and is a big show-off on his solos.

[stolnd]

Everything is just a horn to my mind

just to round this thread out with all the horn talk

this is mr. joe pass performing on his horns, he’s got six of them (nobody will convince me those aren’t six horns)

[wintermoon]

One sax player friend of mine got so turned off by what the sax player did, he's calling for a universal boycott on anyone having anything to do with him.

But he always hated the guy anyway, because the sax player always hogs all the solos on gigs, and is a big show-off on his solos.

At least this lady didn't take the music store's 1.5--2k appraisal for her dad's Stromberg, assuming they offered to purchase for that price.

Antiques Roadshow | Appraisal: Stromberg Archtop Guitar, ca. 1950 | Season 16 | Episode 22 | PBS

[John A.]

The blonde matte isn’t nearly as bad. This one has Lollar pickups and a new wiring harness. And was acquired very cheap.

I agree. In general, I think Gibson's satin finishes in natural look pretty good, red ones, too. And in general I try favor not letting the visuals get in the way of an otherwise worthwhile guitar. I mostly play with my eyes closed anyway.

[Sleeko]

just to round this thread out with all the horn talk

this is mr. joe pass performing on his horns, he’s got six of them (nobody will convince me those aren’t six horns)

Horns? How so?

[Woody Sound]

Amazing pop singer Pat Upton with a 175. (ps - Check out the bass player's nifty footwork.)

[Sleeko]

Tres Chic

[2bornot2bop]

Amazing pop singer Pat Upton with a 175. (ps - Check out the bass player's nifty footwork.)

I grew up a Motown guy. But that was always one of my all time favorite tunes. Still is! That song just grooves!

[Herbie]

Horns? How so?

If we all agree that he is a ”meanest” ”badass” ”cat” in jazzguitar world, we could say that he ”blows” his ”horns” like nobody.

[stolnd]

Horns? How so?

his articulation reminds me of how a horn might play some of those lines I guess

also joe pass sings like one, the dude was just out of this world

[Sleeko]

Thanks guys, I was scratching my head. Makes sense now.

[Woody Sound]

I once came into a big band rehearsal with a new guitar, and the tenor player said, "Hey, nice horn."

[wintermoon]

I have never heard of any instrument other than a horn being called a horn until this thread.
Now axe or piece, many times no matter what the instrument.

[nevershouldhavesoldit]

I once came into a big band rehearsal with a new guitar, and the tenor player said, "Hey, nice horn."

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail

[Dean_G]

When I was coming up late 60's your instrument was called your horn regardless, could be a piano. It's traditional but not so common these days. But think about the dominant instrument in jazz history and major players. Makes sense right?

[nevershouldhavesoldit]

When I was coming up late 60's your instrument was called your horn regardless, could be a piano. It's traditional but not so common these days. But think about the dominant instrument in jazz history and major players. Makes sense right?

That must have been either a colloquialism or a curiosity with limited appeal..I’ve been playing professionally since 1960 and I’ve never heard anyone refer to any instrument but a horn as a horn. As for the dominant instrument in jazz, I didn’t know there was one. But if I had to guess, I’d say piano.

[rpjazzguitar]

I heard the word ax used to refer to different instruments, but never the word horn.

[Stringswinger]

That must have been either a colloquialism or a curiosity with limited appeal..I’ve been playing professionally since 1960 and I’ve never heard anyone refer to any instrument but a horn as a horn. As for the dominant instrument in jazz, I didn’t know there was one. But if I had to guess, I’d say piano.

In NYC in the early 70's, cats often called a guitar a horn. It always seemed strange to me, but it was a thing.

[Sleeko]

In all fairness I remember Tal Farlow referring to playing like a horn. It was style I'm guessing but you'd never hear Barney Kessel referring to his guitar as a horn. He was trying to be heard over the horns.

[Woody Sound]

A sax player I know found a poor old woman whose husband, a pro sax player, just died. She was selling his Selmer mark VI, his Selmer Tenor, and and an expensive flute, and didn't know what they were worth and needed the money.The sax player said, "Look, I'll give ya 15k for all three instruments".
The woman took the deal, and the sleazy sax player wound up with three instruments probably worth 30k for only 15k.
When friends of her late husband told her she'd been ripped off, she tried to take the guy who bought them to court, but the judge threw the case out.
Moral of the story; let your heirs know how much your instruments are worth before you croak.

Reminds me of that old saying...