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I used to attend a weeklong jazz camp for several years and one of the other regulars had an L5CC. He expressed regret about buying it and eventually went back to his ES-335, but I thought it sounded very good- much like this one. But if it's not the sound you want, it's not the sound you want. He seemed to think it played and sounded stiff.
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11-07-2024 06:56 PM
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It's been great going on this discovery journey of the PM3C, however after much consideration, I've decided to sell it and pass it on to someone else who can enjoy it as much as I have. At this time I can't reconcile having 2 guitars that have pretty much the same tone, and I have a Tele with a custom "Dearmond style Rhythm Chief 1100" pickup that sounds very close to the PM3C. I will post 2 recordings of the guitar with the Pete Biltoft pickup, and with the stock Ibanez pickup with upgraded Alnico V magnets. I will sell the guitar with the buyer's choice of pickup installed, case, and 2 custom F hole plugs made for the PM3C, all for $1,400 I'll post the recordings Saturday.
Cheers,
Arnie...
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Originally Posted by arnie65
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
Cheers,
Arnie..
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I’m really happy with the guitar, but I’m not sold on the pickup. I might be too much of a p90 kinda guy…
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Originally Posted by arnie65
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Originally Posted by D.G.
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Originally Posted by ruger9
This is not to say it's not a serviceable sound, it's just a sound that does not thrill me when I play it. Note that I tend to play with the volume and tone wide open. I don't like fiddling with the controls, especially the tone. When I use the guitar, I dump a lot of treble at the amp, which brings the brightness under control but also make the tone a little bland for my tastes.
As always, YMMV.
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Originally Posted by D.G.
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Still liking the tones Tim gets out of his better than most other demos...
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I tried out the guitar at a local shop. As everyone says, I thought the sound and playability were good, and it’s great to have the recent Metheny tone available brand new, so I genuinely wanted it. It’s lightweight, and the satin finish is nice too.
One thing that caught my attention was that it felt a bit “too sturdy.” It might sound odd, but whether it’s the glue or something else, I felt that the resonance didn’t quite capture the acoustic natural feel of the wood given the size and feel. It’s less about volume and more about the quality of the tone, I think. It’s just personal preference, but I tend to like lacquer-finished guitars, and I felt this one lacked a bit of that natural woodiness. Maybe it’s too much to expect at this price point, but if there’s a way to enhance that aspect with some modifications, I’d be interested. Any advice?
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Originally Posted by ss399
I know exactly what you mean. Many new flat top acoustic guitars are the same way, many describe it as "tight", then they "loosen up" or "open up" over the years, and over many hours of playtime. I don't see why a fully hollow archtop would be any different. A brand new Gibson ES-125 just built isn't going to sound like one that's decades old.
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I was going to say the same thing, but stiff, verses loose. The tone seems to be a little polarizing for those that have played one. It will be interesting to see how the guitar performs on the secondary market.
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If you want it to sound woodier, I would suggest replacing the TOM bridge top with a wooden bridge top. That should make a noticeable change. Not only the difference in material, but the difference in mass will affect the sound. I replaced the TOM on my Gibson ES-175 with a wooden bridge top made by Roger Sadowsky and found a warmer and rounder sound with it.
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Yeah, it would be interesting to see how this model ages over time. Right now, I prefer a more articulated sound because many old records are represented in that style, whereas contemporary recordings tend to lean in the opposite direction. Pat’s sound used to feel more contemporary, and this model seems to sit somewhere in between those two approaches.
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And if this model came with solid spruce top, I think that may be a killer…
Also I wasn’t even thinking of replacing bridge. Thanks for the insight.
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Originally Posted by ss399
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solid Spruce or Lam ?
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Originally Posted by D.G.
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Hey Jazzers,
My small contribution to demoing this guitar. It's not mine, it belongs to a good friend who has let me try it out.
The intro (F7M, Abm7) is copy/paste from the great Jimmy Raney on one of his duet albums with his son Doug.
Best and take care.
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Wow! I guess the stock pickup is OK (assuming that's what it is). There's a smidge more "thunk" than with some of your other CC guitars, Fred. Good bebop guitar, I would think.
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