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yes the DV little jazz are good amps
I’ve played through them at
jam sessions etc
they have no fan noise problem on the current ones
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06-26-2024 08:09 AM
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A little more clean headroom; more of a 3D sound due to a better pine cabinet I am guessing and complex chords had better string to string definition. I am gassing for one but my Headstrong Santa Cruz with a 10” does that and more.
Originally Posted by Herbie
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DV Mark Little Jazz is a very good amp.
The original version had a fan noise problem, but that was changed some years ago. If there's something that looks like a fan cage, that's the old one. If there are just some slit-like openings and no fan cage, that's the new one.
I've had the new one for several years now and I've never heard the fan at all.
The amp sounds very good and is giggable. I find that it is loud enough for a restaurant gig for playing melody, but I can't quite get the clarity I want on chords at that volume. But, I played dozens of gigs with it before I came to that conclusion -- it's subtle.
Overall, I think it's worth considering.
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Now for something completely different. After all, the OP is interested in 8" cabs and has already PM'd me about a particular amp. Here's the latest addition to my Metro line: 8GP. I managed to wrestle the new Jensen Falcon 8 speaker into the slightly undersize 200 mm pipe used for the 6.5" Metros. Hence the orange extension tips in the front closing rims. This 30W speaker has a sensitivity of 96.1 dB vs. the 91-92 dB ballpark of the 6.5" Jensens and SICAs. The cab weighs 2.1 kg/4.6 lbs and is a seriously loud companion to the Quilter SuperBlocks. Only one sold so far, to Nashville of all places. I suspect the happy owner's genre is rock 'n' roll. One of my Finnish test pilots used the prototype on a few jazz gigs and was reluctant to return it. Placing the SuperBlock lengthwise on the amp dock is ideal for connections and access to controls.
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I didn't want to bump 4 - 5 years old topic so ..... Hope it wasn't odd. And once again , thank you for info on the head.
And this Quilter stuff gave me idea ... Poweramp in a pedal + preamp pedal .... But not likely I'll go that route. But your setup is cool.
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well that becomes a rabbit hole fast. But if it intrigues you- then consider a modeller into a headrush 8” powered speaker. Originally Posted by ScarTissue
And this Quilter stuff gave me idea ... Poweramp in a pedal + preamp pedal .... But not likely I'll go that route. But your setup is cool.
have you seen the victory v4 pedal platform amps? Light weight, tube preamp, many flavours of gain/style. I think there are 5 different models depending on what you want to play. You could even play silent. Pair this with any cab going forward. As you recover and your needs change, this solution could feed most any speaker option that exists.
People started putting amps and speakers into separate cabinets because combined they were starting to get too heavy to move. (Think Marshall stack vs Fender twin). If moving weight is your primary motive for small, pedal amps are a good option.
good luck and enjoy the search!
michael.
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If you want a pedal preamp that runs the full spectrum... Originally Posted by ScarTissue
And this Quilter stuff gave me idea ... Poweramp in a pedal + preamp pedal .... But not likely I'll go that route. But your setup is cool.
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Well, in that case I thought about EHX Magnum 44 poweramp and that TC Electronic Fender in a box type of stuff preamp. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
That should work direct into a mini cab.
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This has always worked for me
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That looks fabulous! Originally Posted by Gitterbug
Seems we were on a similar wavelength this year. I bought a cheap little pine 1x8 box in March and loaded it with an Eminence 820H, also powered by a SuperBlock US. I don't think the Falcon 8 had been released yet, but being 30 watts and 8 ohms it's probably a better fit than the 820H at 20 watts and 4 ohms. Both are ~96 dB.
This is the box I used, mostly just as a cheap thing to test the concept:
Amazon.com
I don't play real jazz but I guess my style broadly falls under the "fusion" umbrella - usually playing with an overdrive in front of the SuperBlock and then using a solid body guitar with the volume knob to go from clean-ish to distorted tones.
So far it works best at home sitting on its back (vertical) and with bands I have been setting it on a table or chair and pointing it toward the band, with the XLR out from the superblock going to PA for shows. My main complaint is that it's actually really boomy in the bass, maybe something to do with the porting? I don't know. Otherwise it sounds great and is just barely loud enough when turned up all the way.
My next step is to try running it from a battery bank (this one is on its way: Amazon.com ) and also to decide whether to move up to a 10" speaker for a few extra dB - and then probably either order a TOOB 8GP or 10S. I really like the light weight of the 8 since I walk/bike often around town for shows/jams.
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Hi Valerie! The Eminence 820H has been regarded as the best-sounding 8" guitar speaker - at least until the Falcon 8 came along. I have no personal experience of it, but like the sibling 620H a lot. However, the low wattage and 4 ohm impedance seriously limit their usability. The 30W Falcon 8, with its 96.1 dB sensitivity, is a perfect companion to the SuperBlocks. TBH, I've sold only two 8GP's so far. One went to a SuperBlock user in Nashville who likes to bike to gigs. He was astonished at the loudness. The other went to a Finnish jazz guitarist last month. He'll be visiting me again this week, for a 10" Toob.
Cheers,
Markku
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I have a solid state 8” speaker rig that I use with archtops. I have a two channel Acoustic Image Clarus 2R and a passive 8” two-way Buscarino Chameleon speaker cabinet. I use a stereo cable into both channels of the amp where the magnetic pickup goes into one channel and the Barbera transducer into the other. I use the independent volume of the amplifier to emphasize the magnetic pickup and treat the piezo as a subtle enhancement. I keep the whole rig on a tripod so it is elevated above the level of my guitar to manage feedback.
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That's funny, the 820H is the only 8" speaker I've ever used so I can't compare it to anything else - I guess besides whatever comes stock in the Fender Champion 20 which we use for teaching at a school here and is a surprisingly great little amp. I could probably gig with one of those. Originally Posted by Gitterbug
Out of curiosity, have you tried the Celestion TF0615? I know Quilter uses its bigger brother the TF0818 in some applications. It's a 100 watt 8 ohm 6" speaker rated at 95 dB and the frequency response chart looks guitar-ish plus some extra high end - it might be a good choice for more acoustic type tones or running a modeler.
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Thanks! Being a pro audio product and not part the Scandinavian guitar/bass distributor's program, it hasn't caught my attention. A bit heavy by my criteria. Eminence had something with comparable specs but with Neo magnet and hence lighter. Alas, discontinued. Thomann seems to sell the Celestion at a reasonable price, so I may grab one for test purposes as part of my next order. Originally Posted by ValerieK
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It was never mentioned whether or not you want two channels? Originally Posted by ScarTissue
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Someone did jinx it at the end. I ended up getting Yamaha THR and Strat.
But I still have plans to get small - mini - combo / head amp in the future. Don't have plans to stay at desktop amps whole life. I just bought Yamaha THR cause I couldn't decide at that moment, and I needed record amp anyway so ...
But I still have plans to buy small mini combo / head + mini cab amp in future.
We can expand this topic tiny bit .... You can also show me your 1x6" / 1x6.5" guitar amp.
I am really into this micro setups.
PS. to the person who asked for 2 channels - no needed - I am clean player only.
PS2. - Good news for some people in this community. Laney released Lionheart amp in solid state package .. So I would be curious on your place to check out those. Just to return a favour.
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The Lionheart Foundry (IIRC the name) is very overdrive-oriented. Beyond the obvious SuperBlocks and BAM200, I'd look at Kyro Dulo for jazz. It's a seriously loud 30W pedal amp, which stays reasonably clean even on higher Gain settings. Cait Jones, a NY jazz vocalist, uses it together with a Toob Metro FR II+. Gain brings the microphone close to instrument-level signal without breaking her voice.
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My preference for small and light is the Quilter Soundblock US and Toob Metro BG+. The SBUS mounts on top of the Toob via Velcro, and can be used as a combo or separately as desired. Other Metro models might be fine, but I only have experience with the BG+ so I can't comment on anything else. I will say that my Fender Vibrolux Reverb cab, with two 10" speakers, sounds marginally better, but there is no way I'm going to carry that thing out of the room it's in, nevermind out of the house. I can carry the SBUS/Toob with my little finger, and I'm very old. I do carry it in a cheap lunchbox bag from eBay, like NeverShouldHaveSoldIt does. I like the extra pockets and pouches, but in a pinch I can carry the extra bits in the guitar case pocket and the amp/head in my hand. There may be better amps available, but that's what I have, and I've stopped searching.
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- BF Champ / Vibro Champ
- Mambo 10" combo is even lighter, has good onboard reverb and can get really loud if needed.
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Here's my little test setup as it sits right now. The battery appears to power the amp+pedals for around 8 hours and it can charge while playing. The speaker, cabinet, battery, and amp weigh almost exactly 11 lbs. Switching to a TOOB 8GP would drop it down to a little under 9 lbs.
Edit: I don't know why the photo is sideways... but that's a 20" box fan for reference.
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My ‘59 Supro Super with an Eminence 820h speaker. Sweet sound!
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OK, here are my gig-worthy, little rigs:
RevSound RS8 (with BAM):
Toob Metro (same amp):
I have a small pedal board that I use with each -- great sounds on each rig!
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Went to the industrial area of a small town near Stuttgart by train(s) and bus(es) yesterday to pick up my second Blackstar HT-1R 1 Watt tube amp with digital reverb (1. generation). Bargain -- only a fith of the original price of a few years ago. Blackstar was founded by former Marshall employees and that amp is ultra portable and fits exactly into my shopping trolley as if the latter was built for it.
I love that little amp and it sounds not only great for jazz and blues with my Yamaha tele but also great distorted with my Dreadnought using a cheap Dean Markley soundhole single-coil.
Turns out that the manager of Germany's most famous and successful hip-hop band Die Fantastischen Vier, a guy of national fame after having been part of the jury of Germany's version of Pop Idol/American Idol, has rented a smaller office and is therefore selling off stuff through his brother-in-law with whom he shares a private little workshop where they work on cars and bikes and that is the place where I went.
Might be a good connection one day as this is more than 1 Watt and more than 8 inch:
BTW the drummer of the live band, Florian Dauner, is the son of German fusion keyboarder Wolfgang Dauner (United Jazz and Rock Ensemble).
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I received my TOOB 8" Metro today. It is essentially the same size as the 6.5". I look forward to trying it out tomorrow.
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So I recorded tracks using the Metro 6.5 and the Metro 8 with the SBUS into my iPhone. Since the speakers were on a carpet, and the iPhone isn't the greatest audio recording device, I won't post the videos.
But I found the 8" to be a little bit more defined through the whole range. I had the bass turned up a little too high on the SBUS, so both speakers turned out to be a trifle boomy. But I absolutely love the sound of the 8" – I had already loved the 6.5, and if I hadn't had the 8 to compare, I'd have been fine. But after listening to them both, I find the Metro 8 to be a better fit for me, especially since the weight and size difference is minimal.
I am in an apartment in NYC, so I haven't been able yet to test comparative loudness. Using the same settings on the SBUS, they seemed pretty similar in decibel level.
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