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    A drummer that I'm going to start jamming with wants to work on some triple meter and odd time stuff;
    Can someone point me to a list or name a few standards in these meters?


    All I can think of is Waltz for Debby, and there's obviously Take Five and the other Brubeck stuff.

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    Gravy Waltz, Jitterbug Waltz, Little Niles, for a start.

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    Just mentioned in the thread about chords that hang around for a while: Chick Corea's Windows (3/4)

    To avoid the "Take Five ... Again?" phenomena, I prefer Desmond's Take Ten (which is in 5, the cheeky lad!)
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    Of course: Bluesette.
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    Wayne Shorter:

    Footprints (3/4)
    Juju (3/4)
    Dance Cadaverous (3//4)

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    emily is in 3/4, and tenderly sounds good in 3/4
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    502 Blues - Shorter

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    3/4 seems common enough. Anything in seven apart from ...

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    It's quite easy to play ATTYA in 3. Also it can be played in 5 but I do not profess to being able to do that competently.

    West Coast Blues is in 6 (or 3 I guess but I feel it in 6) yet is pretty tough to sound good on if you ask me. Inevitably someone will get lost...usually me lol.

    Another cool tune in 3 - one which nobody plays but is a great tune - is on the Sidewinder album and is called "Boy What A Night". It's a 24 bar blues in 3, so sort of like West Coast Blues (which I think of as a 12 bar blues in 6)...but way easier to keep the form in my experience since it has more of a 3 feel (which sort of reduces to a "1" feel, you know?). That album also has "Gary's Notebook" which is another fun tune in 3 with quite an angular melody...far from a straight swinger.

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    All Blues and Senor Blues both in 6/8. I've seen Nature Boy in both 3/4 and 4/4.

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    Peter Bernstein's Jive Coffee, a 'Tea for Two' contrafact in 5 has almost become a modern standard:



    The Face I Love is a nice alternative to Bluesette:


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    Quote Originally Posted by SalvadorFoster2 View Post
    A drummer that I'm going to start jamming with wants to work on some triple meter and odd time stuff;
    Can someone point me to a list or name a few standards in these meters?


    All I can think of is Waltz for Debby, and there's obviously Take Five and the other Brubeck stuff.
    Are you certain that he wasn't talking about playing "regular" standards in different meters?

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    Two tunes written in 3/4, but usually played in 4/4:

    Mac the Knife

    In Other Words (better known as Fly Me To The Moon).

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    Tenderly was written in 3/4

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    Someday My Prince Will Come 3/4

    Conference of The Birds 5/4

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    Take any standard and perform it in any odd meter you want. Generally the only somewhat difficult part is adjusting the melody. But after you really begin to get your technical skills together with rhythm.... it becomes pretty easy to adjust melodies.

    Once you have put in the time playing.... gigs etc... you'll start to look for more ways to have fun at gigs. Changing time sigs is one of the easier starts. It doesn't take long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar View Post
    Two tunes written in 3/4, but usually played in 4/4:

    Mac the Knife

    In Other Words (better known as Fly Me To The Moon).
    mack the knife in 3/4? i find that hard to believe. got a source?

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    I like Sweet Georgia Brown in 7

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    I like To Know What I Am in 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djg View Post
    mack the knife in 3/4? i find that hard to believe. got a source?
    I tried to find the 3/4 version and failed. I remember hearing one years ago and being told that it was the original. So, I figured, either memory has failed or the version I heard wasn't original.

    Then, I found this:

    Mack the Knife and other songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar View Post
    I tried to find the 3/4 version and failed. I remember hearing one years ago and being told that it was the original. So, I figured, either memory has failed or the version I heard wasn't original.

    Then, I found this:

    Mack the Knife and other songs

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    Minor Blues from Rosenwinkel. Not quite a standard yet perhaps but neat and pretty popular.
    Full House - Montgomery.


    editops about the Minor blues... its your everyday 4/4
    I pondered a bit why this came up. I think it wasn't a brain fart but played a long time ago from a sheet that had the tune organized differently than 4/4. That ain't available when googling though.
    Last edited by emanresu; 08-06-2018 at 04:05 AM.

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    Jitterbug Waltz, Fats Waller


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    Falling in Love with Love was written in 3, even though most people play it in 4
    Blue Rondo a la Turk (in 9)
    Moon River (in 3)
    Alice in Wonderland (in 3)
    A Child is Born

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    Yes... if you want more contemporary odd time tunes... check out,
    Sher's
    The All-Jazz Real Book and
    The European Real Book

    I gig with one band that plays all the weird shit...
    check out Joe Locke's tunes, lot's of Them
    Alpha Punk
    Ruminations... very cool
    The Beauty Of All Things... vocal version by Kurt Ellings
    Don't Let it Go...Vincent Herring.... Two different feels, fun tune to play and solo on
    Come Escape With Me... Amina Figarova, ( here tunes are fun, very playable)
    Dreams... Billy Childs.... If your not hip to Billy Childs.... your in for a treat.
    I'll Remember August.... Ralph Towner
    Memory And Desire... Billy Childs again
    By Any Means Necessary... Florian Ross (most of his tunes are in odd times) check out "Platpus", crazy fun to read through, I arranged a big band version for one of the pro BB I used to perform with... they were ready to kill me.
    Dancing School... Alec Dankworth... mainly in 7/4
    A Place In The Sun...Mark Lockheart, (I love playing this tune.. really cool)

    There are millions... sambas in 7/4 or 7/8 grooves are pretty standard and difficult at first.

    Personally most tunes in this direction are for pretty hip audiences, can be tough to groove with. You need to really make them feel like they have a pocket, feel like you can almost lock in. If your solos get to complicated.... your not helping the listener.

    Like I posted earlier... just play standards in different meters.

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    Samba,Calipso, 3/2 time fits nicely with Minor scales

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    ”What’ll I Do” by Irving Berlin is written in 3/4 time.

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    Examples and charts for Ask Me Now in 7, Green Dolphin Street in 11, Con Alma in 9.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolvinny View Post
    It's quite easy to play ATTYA in 3.
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    Shadow of Your Smile, Summertime and Charade have melodies that phrase well in 5/4; I recorded Charade with the A section in 5 and the bridge in 4, no waltzing allowed! Gravy Waltz also works in 5.

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    Rick Stone did a good CD called Fractals which had some standards in unusual time sigs. Here he is doing Stella in 7:


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    I have recorded a version of Limehouse Blues that changes between 5/4 3/4 and 4/4