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Well depends really. Sometimes you want to be consistently on top, sometimes consistently behind by just the right amount. The main thing as I understand is consistency. (And if you can’t play right in the middle, I daresay you can’t do the other things.)
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09-20-2024 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
Groove is a physical thing, not an intellectual one. If you are walking you are also not thinking all the time "Now I have to put my right foot in front and now the left one.". *) The conscious brain is much to slow for controlling body movements. And if you stumble you will immediately realize it and your body will react with counter-movements.
And I'll repeat it again and again: Blues is the teacher.
*) Unless you have a physical handicap. My girlfriend's best friend has a little bit of spasticity in one of her legs and if she is tired that leg may fold suddenly and she will fall to the ground if she does not control her movements consciously.
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Originally Posted by emanresu
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Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
But joking aside actually before that I was listening to African-American blues for one year allmost exclusively (John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee, Jimi Hendrix w/ Curtis Knight and the Squires, Sunnyland Slim, Howlin' Wolf etc. etc.) because I found the pop music of the late 80ies so boring and plastic.
And later I played a lot of funk and reggae live with a band.
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Originally Posted by jazznylon
From rocksteady ...
... over classic grooves ...
... to more modern hiphop influenced grooves.
The changes are not too complicated to figure out and you can concentrate on locking into the groove.
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Mention of James Brown reminded me of a joke-not-a-joke:
A guitarist is applying for a job with the Famous Flames, and the band interviewer says, "Can you play this?" And plays the signature "Chicken" guitar lick.
The applicant says, "Sure," and echoes it.
And the interviewer says, "For two hours?"
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In the words of the great Victor Wooten “You can’t hold no groove if you ain’t got no pocket.”
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This might be sleep deprevation talking but..
There is a perfect untrained sense of time within people, something universally given to everyone.. at least most people.
So, when we try and learn to be good boys and play in time, we kinda are struggling with connecting the deep, inner thing with the surface.
Hm?
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Originally Posted by emanresu
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^ I finally came to terms with my shit meter when I got my drum practice pad and sticks and I couldn't go wap wap, a single stroke roll, in good time and feel with total control of my hands, wrists, and arms.
To me, some basic drumming just on a pad is essential for focusing on rhythm with time, feel, and technique.
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I mean yeah … some musicians have bad time but it’s a function of what they practice on the instrument. When I’m working with kids and they’re having trouble subdividing, I make them stand up and walk.
Left foot downbeat, right foot upbeat. Or stomp downbeat, lift upbeat.
Guess how many people I’ve run into who can’t subdivide with their feet?
zero.
people have great time. The instruments tend to be a barrier.
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
Stand with your guitar held up by a strap. Start with both feet together and play a long, looped line/chord sequence in 4/4. I started out with Jimmy Nolen grooves from classic James Brown tracks.
Once it settles, lift your left foot as the cycle comes to the end of a repetition. Move it out further to the left and place it back down on the '1'. Now lift the right foot and bring it across to the left leg. Stomp that foot next to the other on the '2'. Reverse the process so that the right foot now moves across to the far right for beat 3 and the left foot follows it to stamp down on beat 4. Repeat the process until you feel and hear yourself locking in tightly with the imaginary snare (or real snare if you choose to play along with an existing track).
I remember as a kid watching footage of Motown guitarists making these kind of moves and thinking it was purely choreographed theatre but in effect, it turns you into a human metronome with clicks on the backbeat.
EDIT: I'm left handed/footed so starting with the right foot might be easier for anyone else keen to try this out.
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Originally Posted by PMB
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Originally Posted by PMB
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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Originally Posted by emanresu
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Originally Posted by Bop Head
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Originally Posted by PMB
Last edited by Bop Head; 10-05-2024 at 03:18 AM.
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^ This is the advanced version:
But you need loose hips to do it. Like the title of that Funkadelic album: "Free your mind and your ass follow."
I was told that individuality of movements, e.g. the way you walk, plays a big role in Jamaican culture. As can be seen in the movie "Rockers" from 1978.
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Bop Head is an authority on SOUL.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Timmons
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Peter Bernstein tip - don’t just set the click to tempos like 160, 180, 200, try in between tempos like 167, 193 and 202
Barry Harris "miscellaneous rule"
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