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it is a herb.
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02-27-2022 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
INRE: Stage Fright - I used to psych myself up against this by reminding myself that no-one in the audience wants you to sound bad, they want a good time and are basically on your side.* Remember, I tell myself, you have spent countless hours and not a little hard-earned money equipping yourself with knowledge, practice, and equipment in order to be ready for this chance to "strut and fret" for four sets and an encore, perhaps. You are as ready as you are ever going to be. Do it.<br><br>
* The exception, of course, are the members of other bands who have made their way to this particular watering hole specifically to check your act out. One place where we played a lot had a long table that would accommodate 6-8 people comfortably directly across the narrow dance floor from the stage, and it seemed every week for a while its occupants were competitors for the gig, so we just called it the "Band Table." You could tell who they were by the drummers, who invariably played air drums on the table and its inmates.You could always tell the guitar players; they took up chairs directly across from me and the rhythm player and kind of adopting a "show me" attitudes. That pose devolved pretty quickly, once we hit it, into a lower and lower slouch. The dance floor filled up, the crowd got into it, and we just did our thing, like we had hundreds of times before over years of honing our craft. The Visitors rarely stayed more than one set, and never once made actual contact. I always got a kind of weird satisfaction from this little play. I'm human. <img src="https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/images/smilies/redface-new.png" border="0" alt="" title="Redface New" smilieid="41" class="inlineimg">
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Zoot Sims said the same thing. Originally Posted by grahambop
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As a neuroscientist I am more than a bit dubious of the argument that practice while high requires you to be (identically?) high when you play.
Yes, long-term memories can be recalled more easily when you're in the same state as when they were acquired and can even be triggered unexpectedly e.g. when you smell a childhood odour. I can imagine the same would apply to remembering a melody or lyrics but I'm not convinced it is true also for sensorymotor skills. Which is what you're acquiring when practising.
Maybe those artists who needed to be high/drunk on stage because they were when practising basically played back scores they learned by heart?
One thing I do know from experience: things you learn by practicing early in the morning when barely awake "stick" much better (and not just when you're barely awake while performing
). I've always taken that as an effect of having had to work harder to achieve something, but maybe it wouldn't be so different if your brain is in another kind of altered/degraded state?
Stage fright: I lost that quite easily, presumably helped by starting as an orchestra member and an attitude I don't have to prove anything. I have something I find a lot more annoying that I'd call lesson fright - because that's where I do feel I need to prove something to someone. Curiously it really depends on the teacher, and isn't correlated to how well we get along...
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Just Say No Originally Posted by Tal_175
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What about SSRIs, anyone got an idea/impression what effect they have? Smoothing out dramatic swings, making everything (including your interpretations) sound like flegmatic like an English ensemble playing early Italian baroque music?
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I know nothing about weed. Growing up, we vaguely knew that such existed somewhere in the world, but we were so far out in the sticks that I didn't know anyone at all who even knew how to acquire it. In college I didn't have the money to buy it, and had to think carefully before buying a hamburger. I was commissioned straight into the Army, and spent the rest of my life in jobs that required regular drug testing, and one failed test meant the end of your career. The risk was simply too great to contemplate for me. Alcohol was expected however, but every drug test also included a breathalyzer test, so I never indulged before or during work. Flying a helicopter while on any drug seemed impossible, hard enough sober. The hardest drugs I did were aspirin and the like, when absolutely necessary. Many ordinary prescription drugs were forbidden while flying. Now that it no longer matters, I've considered it, but it's still not possible. For one, I can't bring myself to smoke again. Quitting tobacco use was the hardest thing I ever tried to do, and I did it through willpower. I won't smoke anything again. For another, down here in Texas you can be sentenced to life in prison for possession of marijuana, and examples still must be made, apparently. It's not close to being legal. 10 years would probably be a life sentence for me. So my opinions on the use of weed while playing are merely speculative, and will most likely continue to be. Edibles for arthritis or other pain issues are interesting, but aren't easily available. I'm not driving to Colorado from here just for some gummies or whatever. I did consider it for my son, who has constant pain from myeloma, but he also has a job that requires drug testing and is afraid of losing his job, and thus his health insurance. Healthcare in the US of A is in dire need of overhaul.
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AFAIK those contain things like CDB or CBG which do not get you high (and that's why they've been legalised). Originally Posted by sgosnell
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AFAIK some contain CBD without THC, and some contain the real thing. But I could be wrong, I've never tried any of it. I see ads for all sorts of products containing CBD, but I don't know if even that is legal here. There are incredible fortunes to be made in the private prison industry in Texas, including by judges who sentence defendants to them. I try to avoid being involved in that at all costs.
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Nothing wrong with that picture at all ... Originally Posted by sgosnell
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Hah, and what did I just find in my inbox?
Re CBD and CBG: from what I understand they can also be extracted from hemp (is that a regulated crop in Texas?). France officially still has a strong position against pot and anything containing psychotropes like THC but a whole industry is growing around the sales of the therapeutic components. You can get vapes, essential oils, sweets, even (herbal) teas containing CBD or CBG. Fun fact: one or two of these components (CBG variants IIRC) have been shown the block infection by the c-virus in much the same way vaccine-induced antibodies do. The stuff is expensive, though. Originally Posted by MusicGurus
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Hemp is now legal to grow, but with more regulation than environmental emissions. It has to be tested for THC content, IIRC, among other things. The industry is tiny, especially for a plant used to make ropes.
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Idem here, but you can grow it yourself as long as you use officially sanctioned seeds. Originally Posted by sgosnell
But without THC you don't get very high, making this OT
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I think playing live is a privilege, and would never do it anyway but sober. What others choose to do is of course up to them, but for me it would be disrespectful to do that to an audience. After the show, whatever
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The old Musicians Union joke:
Play 45 Drink 15
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The magic word is "appear" - and they share your misconception. Originally Posted by BWV
I agree completely that criminalization of addiction of any kind is counterproductive. But the public cost of addiction is very high now, and simply supervising administration of the responsible substances will not bring that cost down very much (if at all). The long term damage from chronic use of alcohol, opiates, and other addictive substances is astronomical, as is its cost of care. Here's a typical finding from a large scale study of prescription users of opiates:
"After adjustment and propensity score weighting, chronic [opiod] users had statistically significant higher prospective total (40%), medical (3%), and pharmacy (172%) costs...Both total and pharmacy costs increased with the length of time characterized as high-risk users, with the increase being statistically significant."
Medical conditions that typify chronic opiate use start with constipation (often severely debilitating and requiring mechanical disimpaction). Chronic users suffer multiple disorders of the brain, liver, GI tract, and cognitive systems. They get through the day "OK", but they're quite far from normal function. Productivity at work is reduced, work related accidents are much higher, and they have difficulty with interpersonal relations because they're hiding a "dark secret" that they don't want to share. Further, their mortality rates and the cost of their premature deaths are much higher than for matched non-using controls.
What we need is proper support for the emotional and social needs of people who attempt to subsitute alcohol and other drugs for what they lack (or perceive that they lack) in their lives. People need help, not narcotization.Last edited by nevershouldhavesoldit; 03-01-2022 at 04:46 PM.
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With the big band I'm now rehearsing and performing with, I'll have two drinks (Selzer drinks) before the gig or rehearsal. No drinking during the rehersal or performance. I find it relaxes me enough without affecting my playing.
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the German version, just as nice, Drogen nehmen und rumfahren.
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The highest costs of addiction to society in the US, by far, is in incarceration costs. Keeping people in prison for years for drug possession or use is very, very expensive. It's far cheaper to treat them, or even allow them to use drugs, whatever the costs, than to pay for their imprisonment. But those who look or act differently must be punished.
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If we could redirect funds from criminal prosecution and incarceration to optimal and nonjudgmental evaluation, management, and support, the total cost of the problem would go down. Trying to either decriminalize or support without the other simply adds cost and complexity to the problem. Apart from a few unusual programs and facilities, recidivism is high among those who have been incarcerated and among those who have been in many rehab programs and facilities. Originally Posted by sgosnell
The highest costs of addiction to society in the US, by far, is in incarceration costs. Keeping people in prison for years for drug possession or use is very, very expensive. It's far cheaper to treat them, or even allow them to use drugs, whatever the costs, than to pay for their imprisonment. But those who look or act differently must be punished.
Last edited by nevershouldhavesoldit; 03-02-2022 at 11:40 AM.
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I recall, from a Louis Armstrong biography, that he was a huge pot smoker - even insisting that the other musicians indulge prior to recording sessions. His management team went to great lengths to protect his “public” image.
AKA
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Talk about public image ... this made me remember a video I once saw of a reporter or fan questioning a Willy Nelson who was clearly holding his breath, and finally answered by bellowing out a huge cloud of smoke.
Can't find it, so this'll have to do
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The Louisiana Highway Patrol once stopped Willie's bus on I-10, claiming that the probable cause was the smell of marijuana smoke as it passed their car. Everyone on the bus claimed that the pot was theirs, and the cops finally gave up, because arresting a bunch of 70+ year-old famous white people wasn't going to make them heroes. Willie supposedly quit smoking when he got into the legal edibles business in Colorado, running it from Texas.
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