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    Rich plays a beautiful version of Eleanor Rigby and makes some mistakes. He has stream of consciousness narration, which I find really helpful and refreshing. This is worth listening to.


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    Thinking while playing is like texting while driving. The risks out-weigh the benefits, to say the least. One.Thing.At.A.Time.
    Multi-tasking is not a myth, it's a pernicious lie.

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    Nice arrangement.

    I agree you can't think about what you're playing in a complicated arrangement ONCE you've got the fingerings down.

    Playing the Beatles on guitar is more challenging than it might seem. Do you play it straight? Like a ballad, with a freewheeling tempo? With a rhythmic groove like this? How hard do you swing it?

    And, whatever you play, will the audience dig it? This is especially important when you're playing well-known songs. I mean Ella could swing anything, but mess with classic rock at your peril.

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    Not thinking. That's why there are more male guitarists than female...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Not thinking. That's why there are more male guitarists than female...
    no matter what you meant, there are committed people who will find a way to prove you are offending some people :-)

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    Okay, for clarification: men are stupid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenk74
    Thinking while playing is like texting while driving. The risks out-weigh the benefits, to say the least. One.Thing.At.A.Time.
    Multi-tasking is not a myth, it's a pernicious lie.
    A nice simple way to show someone that multi-tasking often makes doing something more difficult, less accurate, and taking more time is to ask someone to say the alphabet (English for me), and count from 1 to 26.

    How long does it take, and how many mistakes does one make, if one does the alphabet first (A, B, C, etc.) and then the counting (1, 2, 3, etc..) verses doing one letter than one number,, (1, A, 2, B, 3, C etc...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff
    Nice arrangement.

    I agree you can't think about what you're playing in a complicated arrangement ONCE you've got the fingerings down.

    Playing the Beatles on guitar is more challenging than it might seem. Do you play it straight? Like a ballad, with a freewheeling tempo? With a rhythmic groove like this? How hard do you swing it?

    And, whatever you play, will the audience dig it? This is especially important when you're playing well-known songs. I mean Ella could swing anything, but mess with classic rock at your peril.
    This guy does ok. (ha ha). 25 years ago I played along with this album until I had blisters on my fingers and learned most of what Chet was doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Okay, for clarification: men are stupid!
    And ugly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Okay, for clarification: men are stupid!
    How dare you insult my wife's judgement!!!

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    I love Rich's playing and gorgeous tone. His talking as he plays is refreshing in my view. Its like we are visiting inside Rich's mind for a moment. Also, he reminds me of my first guitar teacher who did the very same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Not thinking. That's why there are more male guitarists than female...
    Linear thinking. And it clearly has its advantages and disadvantages, just like cross brain thinking.

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    Those who multitask, regardless of gender, pay a cognitive price. They switch from focus to focus, not multi-focus. Both genders do that. Picture a quarterback deciding to run or pass. Or how about watching TV and drinking a beer? It's hard on the brain.


    The Myth of Multitasking: Why Fewer Priorities Leads to Better Work (jamesclear.com)

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    Conscious multitasking is indeed a myth for humans, not so for machines.

    Human performance slips when performing two modestly complex simultaneous tasks, and degrades with each additional task from there.

    Seems I read that somewhere, but was focusing on something else at the time.

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    Depends what you mean by thinking. If you weren't thinking you couldn't play the guitar at all, let alone a tune, and certainly not an improvised solo.

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    Simply:
    "If you don't know what to play-play nothing" Miles

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    The concept of what Hal Galper calls ‘distracted concentration’ is important to musicians. If you can’t do something else while playing a piece, you don’t really know the piece for instance. Same with improv.

    Rhythmic stuff is helped out by this; rhythmic independence. Guitarists usually overfocus on playing? I do anyway lol. Plectrum Guitar technique is about synchronisation; other instruments have more of an independence aspect to them, pianos and drums most obviously. Singer guitarists are also an obvious exception… maybe fingerstyle too?

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    I think there's a lot of thinking involved to get to the point of no thinking ... in guitar playing and in life generally

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenk74
    Thinking while playing is like texting while driving. The risks out-weigh the benefits, to say the least. One.Thing.At.A.Time.
    Multi-tasking is not a myth, it's a pernicious lie.
    Yeah, the texting while driving thing is terrifying. So many typos ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Yeah, the texting while driving thing is terrifying. So many typos ...
    Hmm. Autocorrect won't correct your auto mistakes and will screw up your messaging.

    Check these out. Autocorrect Fails From The Last 10 Years That Are Still Funny

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    I always think where to play the next concert ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Yeah, the texting while driving thing is terrifying. So many typos ...
    What is even worse: I followed [at a safe distance] a motorcyclist who was two handed texting in moderate traffic @ 60 mph! I backed right off because he would look up, see where he was relative to the car in front, hit his foot brake and then have to make a single-handed grab for the handlebar to correct what braking had done. I know I did some dumb things in my years of motorcycling but nothing like this.

    But to get back slightly on topic, we have a concept in emergency services of "span-of-control" which essentially is the limit on the number of things you can consecutively deal with and still maintain control. That being said I spoke once with a colleague from the London Fire Service who described his first really big "shout", an eighteen-pump response to a hotel fire where he was first on scene commander. He said that when the senior officer arrived he greeted him normally, asked after his family, took his pipe out and filled it - all while walking around the scene - then in the few minutes it took to get back to the control point just rattled off a sequence of instructions and priorities that needed to be in place to control the fire. A great example of putting oneself into a "comfortable space" while the "trained brain" deals with the urgent items unmolested, not allowing the terrors of the moment to overwhelm the calm response.

    That may be where some of this is musically, trying to concentrate on decisions and actions can paralyze you, when just relaxing and letting your practice lead you can free you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    I always think where to play the next concert ...
    Some of us check out the waitresses and the chicks at nearby tables at the places we play (or guys if that's your bag).

    The cigar bar where we played until last year had some seriously gorgeous women working for them. Nice as heck too. One waitress/hostess was a professional cellist, who had this job as a side gig. We never got around to having her do something musically with us.

    For Frank Sinatra's birthday, we played a big show that was super crowded and a lot of fun. The bar brought in these "whiskey girls", who wore very short skirts and walked around offering shots of Knob Creek.

    It was like Rat Pack heaven in that bar. The only downside was the cigar smoke. I do kind of miss it though.

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    [QUOTE=Marty Grass;1140042]Those who multitask, regardless of gender, pay a cognitive price. They switch from focus to focus, not multi-focus. Both genders do that. Picture a quarterback deciding to run or pass. Or how about watching TV and drinking a beer? It's hard on the brain.

    As I young man I used to drink a beer, smoke a cigarette while driving a car with a stick shift. I know, I know very dangerous and stupid, so I have stopped smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob MacKillop
    Okay, for clarification: men are stupid!
    Even Caitlyn Jenner couldn't escape that birthright. Just sayin'