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    ok you guys , music improv can get kinda soulful or spiritual yeah ?
    so i know some of you MUST be deep thinkers ....

    please post your fav aphorisms
    that are , simple , true , guides for you
    in your learning and improv ....


    my current fav is ....

    “do or don’t do .... there is no try”

    over to you ....

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    Life is short. Enjoy every sandwich.

    —Warren Zevon

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    " Never spit in a man's face unless his moustache is on fire. "

    'Sig Sakawicz', via Jackie Vernon.

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    "The waiting is the hardest part." Tom Petty. (I have muttered this many times over the years. It's not as if I heard the song and thought, "Brilliant line!" Rather, the truth of it often strikes me anew.)

    And then there's the Leonard Cohen line that is sometimes my signature, "If I knew where the good songs came from, I'd go there more often." There's something mysterious about that initial impulse that later, sometimes much later, becomes a finished work.

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    the golden rule of education “no good deed goes unpunished” LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzism
    the golden rule of education “no good deed goes unpunished” LOL
    never understood that one
    i’ve heard it of course

    like you do a good thing , then something
    bad happens to you ??

    i haven’t experienced that ....

    genuinely interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu
    never understood that one
    i’ve heard it of course

    like you do a good thing , then something
    bad happens to you ??

    i haven’t experienced that ....

    genuinely interested


    It usually has to do with doing something to try and help somebody out and they either resent your interference, or you otherwise end up looking like the villein rather than the good guy. By extension, it could be any time you try to do the right thing and it backfires on you and leaves you wishing you had just minded your own business. For example, you find somebody's wallet laying on the ground, so you return it to them, and they accuse you of stealing the money that was in it.

    It can also be in reference to the concept of nice guys always finish last while the person who has no qualms about stepping on anybody's toes to get where they're going get all the rewards and accolades.

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    I tend to procrastinate until the last minute. When My wife confronts me with it, I usually reply with:

    Never do, today, what you can put off until tomorrow.


    For the workaholics among us, I also like:

    Anything worth doing is worth obsessing over.



    I'm not usually the most popular guy at parties.

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    "A is A."

    Ayn Rand, Objectivist guitarist with a fierce concern for standard tuning

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    Truer than than "seeing is believing"


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    Just got this from Episode 8 of the new "Perry Mason" on HBO:

    "If we're going to be working together, we need to be people who can act abominably on occasion."—Della Street

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    I posted it was my signature line, then realized I hadn't put it in on JG even though I have it there in other forums....oops.

    Regardless, it's there now. It's my own reminder to myself about what's important as a musician, and it ain't GAS!

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    A line of Goethe's that I read as a teen has been with me since: "Experience is only half of experience." (Even wrote a song about it.)

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    Wherever you go, there you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    Just got this from Episode 8 of the new "Perry Mason" on HBO:

    "If we're going to be working together, we need to be people who can act abominably on occasion."—Della Street

    I really enjoyed that series !! Those are some classic characters. I just saw they've ' ordered ' another 8 episodes.

    That is a real sleeper - -glad I stumbled upon that !

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    If you are going to get blamed for things you didnt do you might as well take the blame for everything.

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    It costs more time and money to do it wrong, than to do it right.

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    what? no wise words from the great yogi?...berra, that is

    “Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours.” ...

    “You can observe a lot just by watching.” ...

    “It ain't over 'til it's over.” ...

    “When you come to a fork in the road take it” ...

    “The future ain't what it used to be.” ...

    “Nobody comes here anymore, its too crowded”



    cheers

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    You are what you play.

    A band is a schedule.

    Book a schedule; you'll find a band.

    Never promise what you can't deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldjock
    It costs more time and money to do it wrong, than to do it right.
    .....Variations - -" If there isn't time to do it right, why is there always time to do it over ?? "

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    Some from the nuns:

    " The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions. "

    And in not living the life it takes to get you to Heaven:

    " Aim for the stars and you'll hit a fencepost. "

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    Not so bad; (hey if I said that about your guitar playing,,, well I apologize!).



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    Quote Originally Posted by jameslovestal
    Not so bad;


    hah, sounds like writer charles bukowski line!!

    cheers

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    Stan Laurel: You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil's always le(a)d.

    Joe Walsh: The smoker you drink, the player you get.

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    A bit of a downer, but:

    David Thoreau - The mass of men live lives of quiet desperation.

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    "They say you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, but visit any cow pasture and observe where the most flies are gathered!"

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    wow you’ve outdone yourselves guys

    wonderful stuff !

    i also like maestro Regs sayings ...

    on improv
    “if you’re in the moment .... you’re late”

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    Quote Originally Posted by FwLineberry
    It usually has to do with doing something to try and help somebody out and they either resent your interference, or you otherwise end up looking like the villein rather than the good guy. By extension, it could be any time you try to do the right thing and it backfires on you and leaves you wishing you had just minded your own business. For example, you find somebody's wallet laying on the ground, so you return it to them, and they accuse you of stealing the money that was in it.

    It can also be in reference to the concept of nice guys always finish last while the person who has no qualms about stepping on anybody's toes to get where they're going get all the rewards and accolades.

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    ok i get it now , thanks for the explanation

    i don’t like it , it’s depressing
    its also patently no true
    why do people write that stuff ?

    its like an aphorism enjoining you to not
    bother doing anything good for someone else ....

    Jesus H Christ that’s bleak

    i hess it could be rewritten as
    “ sometimes a good deed is unappreciated”

    but that doesn’t tell you much new

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    the great Lemmy

    ” you cant have everything ....
    where would you put it ? “

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    Over the years, my now 89-year-old father would say: "This too shall pass".

    From Elisabeth Kubler-Ross: "I'm not OK, you're not OK, and that's OK."

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    For all guitar tinkerers...

    "If it ain't broke, fix it til it is."

    And from ferris bueller:

    "Life moves pretty fast...if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you might miss it."

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    Rock music is three chords, played for an audience of thousands. Jazz is the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu
    the great Lemmy

    ” you cant have everything ....
    where would you put it ? “
    I think he nicked that one from George Carlin.

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    My dad: "I was born at night but it wasn't LAST night." (Don't BS me.)

    "The shortcut is the long way round." This one puzzled me the first time I heard it but the gist is, 'when you stop trying to find shortcuts and just do the damn thing, you'll find it took less time than you wasted looking for shortcuts.' As a guitarist with a hundred or so guitar books, this is painfully obvious to me...now.

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    Life is a brief flash of light surrounded on all sides by an infinity of darkness. Buy the guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu
    ok i get it now , thanks for the explanation

    i don’t like it , it’s depressing
    its also patently no true
    why do people write that stuff ?

    its like an aphorism enjoining you to not
    bother doing anything good for someone else ....

    Jesus H Christ that’s bleak

    i hess it could be rewritten as
    “ sometimes a good deed is unappreciated”

    but that doesn’t tell you much new

    Not to beat a dead horse, or kick an aphorism when it's down, but I was not so long ago involved in a situation where I actually used the phrase while discussing job dissatisfaction with my wife.

    I spent several years driving long haul semi tuck and built a reputation with the trucking company for getting the load picked up and delivered, no matter what, without any drama involved.

    Consequently, I became the guy they saddled with crap loads that were already behind schedule or loads that had to be driven all night to be delivered first thing the next morning, Most of these loads meant driving into Seattle/Tacoma area, which amounted to high stress and low mileage pay. Most loads out of that area were headed to Spokane. So you'd end up waiting around all day for another load that sucked and didn't pay well. Invariably, you'd get stuck bouncing back and forth between Spokane and Seattle for a week or more making minimum pay and wearing yourself out.

    It is a pessimistic saying, but it's usually something somebody only says after they find themselves in a situation where being the good guy and doing the right thing doesn't result in being rewarded or actually results in being punished.

    My wife was involved in a situation that is even more appropriate to this bit of wisdom.

    She worked at a book store, and one evening while balancing the cash register, there was $50 missing. The store manager demanded my wife enter false numbers into the accounting ledger to cover the missing money. My wife refused. Eventually the store owner found out about the incident. The manager was reprimanded, but during the meeting, she insisted my wife had betrayed her and she she could no longer work with my wife. The owner, faced with losing a long-time employee and manager or a short-time sales clerk, decided it was better for him to just fire my wife.

    Alas, no good deed goes unpunished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
    Truer than than "seeing is believing"

    Now I know where Bono got his lyric for Walk On:

    "You're packing a suitcase for a place none of us has been
    A place that has to be believed to be seen."

    I always thought that was a killer line.

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    From Louis Armstrong website, some great quotes.

    "If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know."

    "Man, all music is folk music. You ain’t never heard no horse sing a song, have you?"

    "If I don’t practice for a day, I know it. If I don’t practice for two days, the critics know it. And if I don’t practice for three days, the public knows it."

    “If ya ain't got it in ya, ya can't blow it out ya.”

    "Musicians don't retire; they stop when there's no more music in them."

    "There is two kinds of music, the good, and the bad. I play the good kind."

    "You blows who you is."

    "There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them."

    "We all do 'do, re, mi,' but you have got to find the other notes yourself."

    "The memory of things gone is important to a jazz musician. Things like old folks singing in the moonlight in the back yard on a hot night or something said long ago."

    “My whole life, my whole soul, my whole spirit is to blow that horn...”

    “Seems to me it ain't the world that's so bad but what we're doing to it, and all I'm saying is: see what a wonderful world it would be if only we'd give it a chance. Love, baby - love. That's the secret.”

    "What we play is life."

    https://www.larmstrongsoc.org/quotes...ve%20you%3F%22

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    The more you know, the more you know what you don't know.

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    It's all about the journey, not the destination.

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    If your aunt had penis, she'd be your uncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tal_175
    If your aunt had penis, she'd be your uncle.
    Ah, calls to mind a lovely old song.


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    There are two groups of people, who categorize others into two groups and who do not.
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    against pessimisn :
    "One need not hope in order to undertake, nor succeed in order to persevere"
    William the Silent price of Orange-Nassau

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    thanks mates
    superb stuff all round !

    one i wish i’d known earlier is the (well
    known saying in art circles apparently but
    i did only science stuff stuff when i was
    a kid and nobody told me)

    ”less is more”

    that would have saved me a lot of hassle

    ps somebody should tell Baz luhrmann !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis D
    " Never spit in a man's face unless his moustache is on fire. "

    'Sig Sakawicz', via Jackie Vernon.

    It's been years since I heard this line. Thanks.

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    Mary Poppins had a point when she said, "Well begun is half done."

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    " There's no such thing as a free lunch. "

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    never try to teach a pig to sing , it wastes your time and it annoys the pig

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    "Work is the curse of the drinking classes".

    O.W.