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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Who Reg? His technique is superb, he got jazz chops like very few on this forum. So his tone is superb too. Timing and everything... I prefer 'weak linear playing on changes' if thats what its called.
    I disagree utterly and completely as far as his single line playing is concerned. Sorry if that offends you. Maybe we should leave it at that.

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  3. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Country and jazz? You betcha.

    I didn't know an Ovation could be made to sound so jazzy. And mr Strong is of course a remarkable player

    Country and jazz are next door neighbours musically, or at least they can be. If country tunes were good enough for Sonny Rollins, there's no reason the rest of us should look down our noses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe
    Country and jazz are next door neighbours musically, or at least they can be.
    I suppose that it depends on where you're coming from. My first memories of the jazz thing would be recordings of people like Gillespie, Miles, Sinatra, Ellington. I don't think I even heard of country swing until much later on so, no, the connection is not obvious to me. I'm European, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
    His linear playing on changes is actually very weak. I do like his compositions though.

    DB
    Man, that is such a dumb and insulting thing to say about a pro jazzer. I think you have an over-inflated sense of your own playing if you're throwing out assessments like that.

    It does seem like Reg doesn't take a very "horizontal" approach to improv, but I'm sure he could if he wanted to based on what I've heard. Most of Reg's videos have been comping or analysis, but here's some of his improv:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
    I disagree utterly and completely as far as his single line playing is concerned. Sorry if that offends you. Maybe we should leave it at that.

    DB
    Still doesn't change the fact that it's an absurdly insulting and stupid thing to say. Wow, just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolvinny
    Man, that is such a dumb and insulting thing to say about a pro jazzer. I think you have an over-inflated sense of your own playing if you're throwing out assessments like that.
    Nah. Just a hobby player. Total amateur. Everybody knows that. Just have nothing to lose so I post my amateur offerings and rants probably way too often.

    Sorry to have upset you all. I should have known better.

    Sniff.

    DB

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    When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

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    Yea... I'm OK with any comments. I'm sure I've pushed many and made lots of stupid comments. Who cares... Like I said when I joined this form... I wanted to help guitarist get better. I'm not pushing or selling anything, I'm comfortable.

    But thanks for positive comments and I'll work on the negative ones.... Personally... I've loved not playing gigs for the last few months. But... I'll start posting again... try and post some helpful and fun materials. (and DB I'll try and work on my linear skills).

    Reg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg
    Yea... I'm OK with any comments. I'm sure I've pushed many and made lots of stupid comments. Who cares... Like I said when I joined this form... I wanted to help guitarist get better. I'm not pushing or selling anything, I'm comfortable.

    But thanks for positive comments and I'll work on the negative ones.... Personally... I've loved not playing gigs for the last few months. But... I'll start posting again... try and post some helpful and fun materials. (and DB I'll try and work on my linear skills).

    Reg
    A few months ago I initiated the Cherokee challenge. At that time I wanted you to participate explicitly (that's why I said no chords and no octaves, only linear playing). You did not participate unfortunately.

    I'm by no means God's own gift to jazz guitar but do you understand what I am missing in your playing? That you know your theory is obvious. That you know chords and comping too. But I have never heard you play a single line solo that really spells out the changes. It's all groove vamps, chords and octaves. No real linear development.

    Simply prove me wrong. Maybe do post a take on Cherokee. The link is in blue.

    If this means I'll be crucified, so be it. Not taking anything back. Yet.

    DB

    P.S. I did like your compositions. I actually listened to all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbit
    When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
    Nah, you don't know the Dutch.

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    Well, this is why I don't post my stuff here. First, I don't care what anybody thinks, since I've made a living for 50 years playing with a bit of teaching, writing and producing here and there, and secondly, because in the 80's I took a few years off from performing to produce jazz concerts and records, and manage performers. When I returned to performing, I found that the competitive aspect had disappeared entirely from my psyche, a very freeing thing to happen, and ever since then, I play what I want how I want, don't really care at all about what other musicians think (they so rarely pay to get in) and I don't buy instruments or accessories that won't pay for themselves in short order. This attitude opened up my curiosity about other styles and the younger players of jazz, classical and flamenco guitar, and I have spent time with African groups, flamenco dance troupes, chamber ensembles, and all kinds of jazz, pop and classical singers, as well as some serious jazzers, from George Coleman to Ray Brown. I enjoy this site because of the amateurs (the root being amas, or love in Latin), the guitar stories in the gear section, the insights into various pedals and loopers, and the discoveries from members posting both are old and brand-new examples of the gigantic music called jazz.

    But, to get to the point, it's not a contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
    I disagree utterly and completely as far as his single line playing is concerned. Sorry if that offends you. Maybe we should leave it at that.

    DB
    You can't offend me. I just thought your statement was ridiculous. But disagreement is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjazz
    Well, this is why I don't post my stuff here. First, I don't care what anybody thinks, since I've made a living for 50 years playing with a bit of teaching, writing and producing here and there, and secondly, because in the 80's I took a few years off from performing to produce jazz concerts and records, and manage performers. When I returned to performing, I found that the competitive aspect had disappeared entirely from my psyche, a very freeing thing to happen, and ever since then, I play what I want how I want, don't really care at all about what other musicians think (they so rarely pay to get in) and I don't buy instruments or accessories that won't pay for themselves in short order. This attitude opened up my curiosity about other styles and the younger players of jazz, classical and flamenco guitar, and I have spent time with African groups, flamenco dance troupes, chamber ensembles, and all kinds of jazz, pop and classical singers, as well as some serious jazzers, from George Coleman to Ray Brown. I enjoy this site because of the amateurs (the root being amas, or love in Latin), the guitar stories in the gear section, the insights into various pedals and loopers, and the discoveries from members posting both are old and brand-new examples of the gigantic music called jazz.

    But, to get to the point, it's not a contest.
    Impressive CV.

    Sorry, I might be mistaken, if I'm disregard this but... are you one of the guys who always need to reprimand us folks on rock music threads here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjazz
    Well, this is why I don't post my stuff here. First, I don't care what anybody thinks, since I've made a living for 50 years playing with a bit of teaching, writing and producing here and there, and secondly, because in the 80's I took a few years off from performing to produce jazz concerts and records, and manage performers. When I returned to performing, I found that the competitive aspect had disappeared entirely from my psyche, a very freeing thing to happen, and ever since then, I play what I want how I want, don't really care at all about what other musicians think (they so rarely pay to get in) and I don't buy instruments or accessories that won't pay for themselves in short order. This attitude opened up my curiosity about other styles and the younger players of jazz, classical and flamenco guitar, and I have spent time with African groups, flamenco dance troupes, chamber ensembles, and all kinds of jazz, pop and classical singers, as well as some serious jazzers, from George Coleman to Ray Brown. I enjoy this site because of the amateurs (the root being amas, or love in Latin), the guitar stories in the gear section, the insights into various pedals and loopers, and the discoveries from members posting both are old and brand-new examples of the gigantic music called jazz.

    But, to get to the point, it's not a contest.
    If you really like amateurs then you must be one of my fans! I'd rather play jazz guitar badly than anything else well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Impressive CV.

    Sorry, I might be mistaken, if I'm disregard this but... are you one of the guys who always need to reprimand us folks on rock music threads here?

    Not always. But 20 Rolling Stones guitar moments? Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    If you really like amateurs then you must be one of my fans! I'd rather play jazz guitar badly than anything else well.
    Definitely a fan, mainly of your attitude and love of the art. Nice guitars as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjazz
    Definitely a fan, mainly of your attitude and love of the art. Nice guitars as well.
    That's very kind and encouraging. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe
    I didn't know an Ovation could be made to sound so jazzy. And mr Strong is of course a remarkable player

    Country and jazz are next door neighbours musically, or at least they can be. If country tunes were good enough for Sonny Rollins, there's no reason the rest of us should look down our noses
    I enjoy that Clint Strong clip. He's one helluva player. But I think it's worth pointing out that he was a jazz player first and a country player second. Howard Roberts was a huge influence on his playing and there's a clip on YouTube of Clint talking about learning something from a Howard Roberts records and how stoked he was about it. (Woke his dad up to show him.)

    Here it is:

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    The negative remarks in re: DB's comments are exactly WHY most people don't comment on other's performances. If you're only looking for praise, you'll never benefit from another player's critical remarks. And, the second recording of Reg's posted by CoolVinny sounds like a completely different player, to me, than in the first music video. So, if I were to listen to the two videos consecutively during a "blindfold test," I would never guess that player no. 1 is also player no. 2--they don't sound like the same guitarist.
    Further, I didn't feel DB's remarks were mean-spirited but rather an objective response based on his sensibilities as a talented musician. Isn't that what people should want if they post a video for criticism? And, after others read the negative remarks about DB's comments, how free will others feel to post critical comments about a performance that could potentially help the poster's playing in the future?
    Granted, we are all, in some degree, sensitive to negative criticism. However, in order to grow musically, we must take, seriously, the remarks of advanced players in regards to our own playing. Isn't this the process of a musical education and advanced study with a teacher. So, if our teachers only praised us, how could we ever grow musically? And, how many countless players like Coltrane, Miles, Monk, Mingus, Hancock, Correa, Coleman, and Shorter, for example, continued to experiment throughout their lives with different sounds and ideas as they continued to search for illusive perfection?
    So, if you are just looking for praise, don't post. However, I believe Reg took the criticism fairly and without animus as his previous remarks attest. Why else would one post a music video?
    Play live! . . . Marinero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinero
    The negative remarks in re: DB's comments are exactly WHY most people don't comment on other's performances. If you're only looking for praise, you'll never benefit from another player's critical remarks. And, the second recording of Reg's posted by CoolVinny sounds like a completely different player, to me, than in the first music video. So, if I were to listen to the two videos consecutively during a "blindfold test," I would never guess that player no. 1 is also player no. 2--they don't sound like the same guitarist.
    Further, I didn't feel DB's remarks were mean-spirited but rather an objective response based on his sensibilities as a talented musician. Isn't that what people should want if they post a video for criticism? And, after others read the negative remarks about DB's comments, how free will others feel to post critical comments about a performance that could potentially help the poster's playing in the future?
    Granted, we are all, in some degree, sensitive to negative criticism. However, in order to grow musically, we must take, seriously, the remarks of advanced players in regards to our own playing. Isn't this the process of a musical education and advanced study with a teacher. So, if our teachers only praised us, how could we ever grow musically? And, how many countless players like Coltrane, Miles, Monk, Mingus, Hancock, Correa, Coleman, and Shorter, for example, continued to experiment throughout their lives with different sounds and ideas as they continued to search for illusive perfection?
    So, if you are just looking for praise, don't post. However, I believe Reg took the criticism fairly and without animus as his previous remarks attest. Why else would one post a music video?
    Play live! . . . Marinero
    Ha, well, maybe to post to help you to play better, so you can learn from a master? Of course, feel free to criticize, but be careful you may look silly and out of your league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronjazz
    Not always. But 20 Rolling Stones guitar moments? Please.
    I see. Do you think just 10 would be better?

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    I just kind of think that once a person has been playing Jazz (or whatever) for many years, they will probably reach a point where they know want to sound, and may then may not be looking for comments. They may not even be looking for comments from anyone. They play what is in their hearts, and either the listener like it or not.

    So maybe a person is not looking for a critique, but rather to entertain? Words can look so cold on paper, and many say 85% of communication is non verbal. This can easily make leave things open to be misconstrued.

    Sorry for butting in, but I just hate to see unneccessary conflict.

  24. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    I see. Do you think just 10 would be better?
    Yes, considering some of the 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlsoRan
    I just kind of think that once a person has been playing Jazz (or whatever) for many years, they will probably reach a point where they know want to sound, and may then may not be looking for comments. They may not even be looking for comments from anyone. They play what is in their hearts, and either the listener like it or not.

    So maybe a person is not looking for a critique, but rather to entertain? Words can look so cold on paper, and many say 85% of communication is non verbal. This can easily make leave things open to be misconstrued.

    Sorry for butting in, but I just hate to see unneccessary conflict.
    True. Not all critique is the same. You can always feel the difference between friendly one and cold, jealous one.

    "The truth that told with bad intent
    Beats all the lies you can invent"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinero
    The negative remarks in re: DB's comments are exactly WHY most people don't comment on other's performances. If you're only looking for praise, you'll never benefit from another player's critical remarks.
    There are different reasons to post samples of one's playing.

    Perhaps the most common one is as part of a study group----these go on all the time and members post their progress on the current lesson and ask for feedback from others working on the same thing. Nearly everything in this context is heard as a work in progress.

    Another common way is to post something from one's work through a book by a guitarist / teacher. DB has made several of these over the years: Warren Nunes blues solos, Steve Crowell chord melodies, solos from Joe Pass Guitar Style. DB is the first person I think of when someone says something like "you can't learn from books."


    Another reason to post is to demonstrate something. (Christian and Reg have made a lot of "Instructional videos" like this.)

    Others are performance videos----sometimes captured by iPhone at a gig. It is given that the sound on these may be less than ideal and the camera angle may not be what one would prefer.

    Then are 'showcase' performances, often a chord melody (and solo) played by a guitarist alone or along with a backing track. These are most like 'this is me performing for you; what do you think?'

    Some videos are posted by novice players and it is, I think, generally understood that it is a big step to record one's playing and post it online at all. (If for no other reason than to be able to look back in six months or a year and see how much progress one has made.)

    Compostions are a bit different. The emphasis there is on the piece, not the improv. And what makes a piece good or appealing may sometimes reflect dazzling technique or the creation of a compelling mood or a simple, catchy tune that "lingers on" after "the song is ended."

    To paraphrase Flannery O'Connor, "you can only criticize a guitarist in light of what he's trying to do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Ha, well, maybe to post to help you to play better, so you can learn from a master? Of course, feel free to criticize, but be careful you may look silly and out of your league.
    Hi, H,
    And who decides what is major or minor leagues? Remember, Monk was berated as a bad pianist for many years before his creativity and uniqueness were finally realized by both other musicians and the public. Van Gogh believed he died a failure--minor league? Vermeer died in poverty--minor league? Gauguin's lack of commercial success and his distaste for the European Art world when he escaped to Tahiti--minor league? Poe died drunk and in debt in a gutter--minor league? I've never really understood who establishes taste in the Arts? Would you ever study with a teacher who you didn't respect as a great teacher or artist? How can you really know the talents of a person if they choose not to post videos and are not interested in others remarks? Well, some independent souls do not need internet recognition for their artistic life and their lack of desire has nothing to say about their talents or musicianship . . only that group consensus rings hollow in their ears. I have had the good fortune to play with some truly great musicians in my life . . . none of them can be found on Youtube or posting on internet forums. Perhaps, they're just "out of your league?" Play live! . . . Marinero

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    If there is anything I learned from this forum a long time ago is that no matter how good of a player you are there will always be some out there who are not fans of your playing or at least a certain aspect. Could happen vice-versa too. Your playing could be horrendous but some people may like your playing. Then there are the in-betweeners but nobody cares about those

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazznylon
    If there is anything I learned from this forum a long time ago is that no matter how good of a player you are there will always be some out there who are not fans of your playing or at least a certain aspect. Could happen vice-versa too. Your playing could be horrendous but some people may like your playing. Then there are the in-betweeners but nobody cares about those
    Right, horrendous players still stand out, but mediocre don't. Something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazznylon
    If there is anything I learned from this forum a long time ago is that no matter how good of a player you are there will always be some out there who are not fans of your playing or at least a certain aspect. Could happen vice-versa too. Your playing could be horrendous but some people may like your playing. Then there are the in-betweeners but nobody cares about those
    So you’re saying it’s more a forum for wannabes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Average Joe
    Country and jazz are next door neighbours musically, or at least they can be. If country tunes were good enough for Sonny Rollins, there's no reason the rest of us should look down our noses
    One could say that. But I don’t see it. Perhaps Rollins was celebrating his southern roots, and being kind, I don’t know. But saying country and jazz are neighbors suggests a non understanding of jazz. What part of country do you feel is synonymous with jazz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    So you’re saying it’s more a forum for wannabes?
    I for one happen to be very glad that there is room for a few wannabe's in this forum. I really have nobody I can play for who has a clue what I"m trying to do, whether I'm doing it well, making progress, whatever. I am a full time, professional wannabe. And this forum has been a fantastic place for me to inflict my music on victims who actually choose to listen to my clips, who are gracious enough to encourage me, who point out where I'm getting it and where I'm, shall we say, still on the journey. Maybe still hunting for my shoes.

    I raise my glass to wannabe's and poseurs everywhere. It is we who buy the CDs, buy the books by boatloads, subscribe to jazz music stations, tip generously when we hear live music, and try our best to play something worthwhile.

    And I also raise my glass to all the kind, accomplished, and gracious folks on this forum who enable us.

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    Country similarities to jazz, improvisation, virtuosity, both Americana. There are sub-genres of country... one of them is bluegrass and another is western swing. Another is modern bluegrass


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    Jazz and Country

    Both owe a huge debt to the blues, tin pan alley...both distinctly American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Country similarities to jazz, improvisation, virtuosity, both Americana. There are sub-genres of country... one of them is bluegrass and another is western swing. Another is modern bluegrass
    I think these sub genre's of country are inventions by country musicians who were influenced by jazz. That happened around the world as well. There are some Middle Eastern folk musicians who play jazz influenced versions of their music. But that doesn't mean that styles are close in their historical contexts.
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    Everything gets influenced by everything. That's why purism is doomed to failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fep
    Country similarities to jazz, improvisation, virtuosity, both Americana. There are sub-genres of country... one of them is bluegrass and another is western swing. Another is modern bluegrass

    I saw the Punch Brothers two years ago and it was the most obscene display of musical ability I've ever heard in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77
    Everything gets influenced by everything. That's why purism is doomed to failure.
    See there, bebop is still influencing! What’s that, 70 years after Bird, and Monk, Dexter, and Diz. Who can forget Diz who became a world ambassador of the music. He’s on my living room wall you know. Cheeks inflated, blowing away, dressed to the nines.

    Excuse me, is this a jazz music forum?-6e9310e9-b81e-41e4-bbb1-2db8a2bea803-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    Right, horrendous players still stand out, but mediocre don't. Something like that?
    Yes..!

    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    So you’re saying it’s more a forum for wannabes?
    Yes.. But I think thats an inevitability. Nothing special. While there have been cases of pros being driven out from here I'm not sure if its possible to have a forum dedicated exclusively to jazz guitar pros and even sustain it. Doesn't sound like a working model tbh but who knows? Anyways I like this forum, good enough I say!

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    Btw, I met Diz. He was the godfather of a coworker. There I was star struck in the presence of greatness during a small family gathering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazznylon
    Yes.. But I think thats an inevitability. Nothing special. While there have been cases of pros being driven out from here I'm not sure if its possible to have a forum dedicated exclusively to jazz guitar pros and even sustain it. Doesn't sound like a working model tbh but who knows? Anyways I like this forum, good enough I say!

    Wannabes and Alsorans....

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    Quote Originally Posted by grahambop
    Have to admit I am more interested in players who play interesting solos, it just seems to me that almost all of Reg’s videos are about comping/chords.
    I guess it depends on interest/taste and intangibles.

    I have focused almost entirely on his comping when I watch his videos. That's because I'm chasing my own vision on soloing- and I actively try to avoid distractions. That's another post entirely.

    Reg's comping is, IMO, world class. He can drive a band from the guitar chair like few players can. Time feel is superb in every note he plays. So, I've focused on trying to learn something from his videos in that area. In that area of playing, what I'm chasing is pretty much what he's teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawson-stone
    I for one happen to be very glad that there is room for a few wannabe's in this forum. I really have nobody I can play for who has a clue what I"m trying to do, whether I'm doing it well, making progress, whatever. I am a full time, professional wannabe. And this forum has been a fantastic place for me to inflict my music on victims who actually choose to listen to my clips, who are gracious enough to encourage me, who point out where I'm getting it and where I'm, shall we say, still on the journey. Maybe still hunting for my shoes.

    I raise my glass to wannabe's and poseurs everywhere. It is we who buy the CDs, buy the books by boatloads, subscribe to jazz music stations, tip generously when we hear live music, and try our best to play something worthwhile.

    And I also raise my glass to all the kind, accomplished, and gracious folks on this forum who enable us.
    Boy, was that well said.

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    Yea... It's all good. Sorry DB I didn't notice your Cher... challenge. I'll post something. like I said, I ,(and my Family), have loved not playing Music for a few months. Even the agents that keep me working seem cool. (although the calls are starting)... I think you need to have a good perspective about being on this Forum.... We generally all want... all of us to get better, or where ever we want to go or get with music... right. We may dish or post comments that may look cold etc... but... big picture, we're all guitar players and dig playing and hearing guitar music. Not that we don't love and appreciate music.

    I'm lazy, at least with guitar, I haven't touched one in months... but chops were never that big of a deal for me, they were easy. DB's comments were soft... I didn't take them wrong. I mean work on the road with a bunch of really good musicians... you better have thick skin, think Brothers, or on the golf course etc... If you heard some of those comments, you would have thought war. Playing music is a privilege, even when your just working and most of the musicians I've worked with are like family... well second family.

    Thanks RP for kind words

    Anyway... I love listening and playing Bluegrass... county can be fun without the dogs, trucks and ex's etc... dig Chris Thile, one of the mando players I work with knows him, at least has worked with him. How bad is to host a PR gig...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazznylon
    If there is anything I learned from this forum a long time ago is that no matter how good of a player you are there will always be some out there who are not fans of your playing or at least a certain aspect. Could happen vice-versa too. Your playing could be horrendous but some people may like your playing. Then there are the in-betweeners but nobody cares about those
    Yes, there can be very good players, highly regarded pros, who are just not offering up your cup of tea. A lot of fusion playing---which may be technically dazzling--just doesn't do much for me. But if someone posts a clip playing in that style I'm not going to say "I don't care for that style." It's not germane. I realize it's not for me and let it go.

    Chord melody is this way for many. They may admire certain pieces by Joe Pass or Barney Kessel or Wes Montgomery but the style is not what they tend to listen to and if someone posts a chord melody they may click "Like" if it's well done but say nothing because they really have nothing to say about it. Some people think chord melody is the apex of jazz guitar while others think its technically adept muzak---easy listening, fine if you're in the mood but really, why bother? (This is not my view but it is a view held by many: chord melody is kind of a snooze, like cocktail piano.)

    And hell, some people don't care for Pat Matheny and some don't care for Pat Martino. Both are masters but one can play and love jazz guitar without caring for one or the other (or both). As my dad used to say, "Some people don't like sweet milk."
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    Admirable the way Reg reacted to a few comments here, and sad to see how some people get triggered so easily.

    I admit that I don't get how some don't get that the rolling stones, for example, might be construed as being a little out of place in a forum dedicated to jazz. I thought around the age of 15 "nah, that's just show business and posturing", and still have that opinion, but wouldn't go to a rock-pop forum to debate the point.

    It's easy to hear the blues in jazz, but I'm not hearing country. Jimmie Rodgers' Blue Yodel 9 with L. Armstrong is blues .... with yodeling.

    I would not personally post anything here looking for praise - I can get that at home or in my social circles if I wish. Constructive criticism, yes please.

    The Punch Brothers are fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    Admirable the way Reg reacted to a few comments here, and sad to see how some people get triggered so easily.

    I admit that I don't get how some don't get that the rolling stones, for example, might be construed as being a little out of place in a forum dedicated to jazz. I thought around the age of 15 "nah, that's just show business and posturing", and still have that opinion, but wouldn't go to a rock-pop forum to debate the point.

    It's easy to hear the blues in jazz, but I'm not hearing country. Jimmie Rodgers' Blue Yodel 9 with L. Armstrong is blues .... with yodeling.

    I would not personally post anything here looking for praise - I can get that at home or in my social circles if I wish. Constructive criticism, yes please.

    The Punch Brothers are fantastic!
    It's very easy:
    Excuse me, is this a jazz music forum?-screen-shot-2020-08-05-10-53-33-jpg
    Oh, look, someone talks about The Allman Brothers and Thin Lizzy! That's it, there goes the neighborhood, Im telling ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    I admit that I don't get how some don't get that the rolling stones, for example, might be construed as being a little out of place in a forum dedicated to jazz.

    Pfft.

    If you scan the Forum's front page you will see sections ("subfora") devoted to various topics. Here are the names of several off the top of my head: Announcements; Chit Chat; The Builder's Bench; Composition; Classical Guitar; Other Styles; For Sale; Recording & Music Software; and Everything Else. All of these sections of the Forum are easily avoided by anyone who wishes to.

    There is not now nor has there ever been a rule that every post and every thread must be about jazz guitar, or even about jazz. (Or guitar.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB's Jazz Guitar Blog
    Nah, you don't know the Dutch.
    The rabbit should know, I would say (pun intended)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
    It's very easy:
    Excuse me, is this a jazz music forum?-screen-shot-2020-08-05-10-53-33-jpg
    Oh, look, someone talks about The Allman Brothers and Thin Lizzy! That's it, there goes the neighborhood, Im telling ya.
    Fair enough, point taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter C
    I admit that I don't get how some don't get that the rolling stones, for example, might be construed as being a little out of place in a forum dedicated to jazz. I thought around the age of 15 "nah, that's just show business and posturing", and still have that opinion, but wouldn't go to a rock-pop forum to debate the point.
    This forum exists primarily to talk about jazz. But in doing that, it brings together people with one common interest who also share other interests with some others in the group. What's wrong with that? When I go out to play golf with other guys, for example, must we only talk about golf? The idea that we should talk here only about jazz strikes me as tedious and overly academic.