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As far as making reasonable, sustainable guitars, laminates use very little non-renewable wood. In many cases since it’s sliced radially, it doesn’t depend upon thick, old-growth lumbar.
Carbon fiber uses no wood. Currently most carbon fiber is made from petrochemicals, but plant nitrocellulose can be used in a sustainable fashion.
Carbon Fiber Made From Plants Instead of Petroleum – Nexus Media
Personally I am alright with non-wood fingerboards. Or, there are many non-threatened woods that can be used.
So there are a lot of options here involving non-wood products, as well as easily sourced and sustainable woods.
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03-11-2019 04:13 PM
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By the way, I read an article not too long ago that many pension fund holders were tricked into investing in wood farms in the Southeast as a good investment strategy. (I remember driving in North Georgia a few years back and marveling at all the pine trees marked off for harvesting.) Now lumber prices are down, and this strategy has been a financial disaster. But...why couldn’t that wood be used for guitar parts? Maybe not top wood, but as part of a laminate? Even a laminated neck ala Martin?
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
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didnt bird play a plastic sax fora bit?
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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Ethics?
When somebody buys a cheap guitar they should pay some mind to why it’s cheap. Whenever I watch a YouTube video where someone enthuses about the high quality of bargain basement strat or something, I think hmmm.
Apart from the fact that I spent some years playing cheap guitars.
But that’s a separate issue to timber. Basically every guitar is going to have some ethical issues with its supply chain if it uses tropical woods in its construction. This was always true...
I like the Godin commitment to using local timber. I think guitarists are obsessed with recreating the past, but that’s not healthy for music or instrument design. CITES has put the kibosh on that to some extent, and it’s no bad thing imo.
Anyway I’m writing this on an iPhone so I’m certainly not claiming moral superiority over anyone. There are systemic ethical problems with globalised supply chains wherever guitars are put together.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles
Mind you my main tele atm is a maple neck one.
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Sorry - I should I say, I see your point that telecasters are the solution to every known problem, and I wholeheartedly endorse it.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by ccroft
Life is cheap there.
Go back 100 years in the USA and it was the same. All those safety, environmental regs., taxes, not too mention wages in effect now are why manufacturing has all but disappeared in the USA.
The Empire State Building was built in roughly 13 months, completed in 1931. Think about it. How long would it take today with all the regs.?
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Originally Posted by Drumbler
Heck if I know, but a lot longer than that of course. Cheers.
Building One World Trade Center: 11 years in under two minutes – video | US news | The Guardian
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C.F. Martin had a "sustainable wood" model a few years ago, I think they discontinued it, though. It was made with USA grown cherry, among other woods. I tried one, it was a nice guitar but had a different, brighter sound than the usual Martin tone.
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I'm all for vegan guitars. No animal based glues. Also if it's what I think it is, no gut strings. No leather straps. I'd like to see more vegan guitar stores
PS. I'm in part serious.
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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could the resulting long-necked pan be used to fry unclaimed fish or heretics ?
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Originally Posted by Drumbler
For the love of money is the root of all evil.
1 Timothy 6:10
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25
Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.
Matthew 45:25
You cannot serve both God and Mammon.
Matthew 6:24
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Originally Posted by Cunamara
As a professional project manager and general manager I can say for certain that I would not assign any critical path tasks to you. Probably wouldn't assign any project tasks to you.
Finishing a project on time, within budget, and with the required quality and features is as tough a professional endeavor as any. It's not for the meek, and it's not for divas or drama queens either.
Maybe that's why Berklee and other schools now have a course on project management for musicians. Needed.
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And if budget considerations impose that the workforce is payed 1$ a day ?
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Originally Posted by Gobi34
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Originally Posted by Gobi34
Supply and demand determines wages just like any other component in a product or service.
Budget considerations may desire $1 wages but you will only be able to hire people who feel that is a fair trade for their time/.
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Originally Posted by Drumbler
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Originally Posted by Drumbler
Oy.
John
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I can believe $1 daily wage in China and a few other places in Asia and Africa - but not for professional white collar work. Regardless, I don't do business with them.
More like India, and at $30.000 per hour, but I don't know how much of that goes to the individual, less than half I'll bet. So... maybe it's more like $100.00 per day.
Even with that, I'll tell anyone that I don't like the outsourcing of American jobs in the slightest, but nobody asked me.
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It's a complicated situation (!) - suffice to say I think the dry economic answer and the human aspect of what these answers mean are different.
Presenting something drily does not make it an objective truth uncoloured by ideology, but it's a good way of pretending that it is. But that's one for another day.
Has anyone played or had a Supro Amulet ?
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