I'm mad at rhythm

[pamosmusic]

I would have to cash out my forex day trading account.

Since when can I not subdivide at 60 or 80? You better calm down before I come get you. :P

Slow is always harder, I think.

I’ve been playing my bebop heads with the metronome on 40 … so playing them at 160bpm with the metronome clicking on beat two only. Thats been kind of awkward

[ccroft]

That's what I'm talking about Pete. I hate the sound of clicks at 160 and higher. It bugs. I'd rather play 32nd's at 40 than 8th's at 160. Wait... did I get the math right? You know what I'm saying.

And you're working on bigger cycles of phrasing. Instead of hearing 4 beats you're hearing 4 bars, or something.

[Bobby Timmons]

Faster is harder for me focusing on solo piano. I really like playing slow and slow med and I feel I'm pretty good at it. Although slow has its own unique challenges. Med and med up are more challenging for me but I'm going to get them together eventually.

[kris]

Faster is harder for me focusing on solo piano. I really like playing slow and slow med and I feel I'm pretty good at it. Although slow has its own unique challenges. Med and med up are more challenging for me but I'm going to get them together eventually.

why don't you try to play in a band?
This is a real challenge... e.g. the drummer hits too fast a tempo....
Team playing is the essence of jazz.

[Bobby Timmons]

I'm not sure I can get along with people well enough to be in a band, otherwise I would. I'll just get the solo together for now.

[AllanAllen]

I'm not sure I can get along with people well enough to be in a band, otherwise I would. I'll just get the solo together for now.

Call it the Bobby Timmons Trio and don’t ask for opinions of you don’t want them. A good sideman is happy to play along and collect his $100 at the end of the night.

I ask for opinions, but only on stuff I want advice on. Part of being the boss is sometimes you have to be their boss, not their friend.

[Bobby Timmons]

Haha that is good advice.

[Bobby Timmons]

My plan is to take 120. Then 160. Then I'll be good. I'm already happy with my slow and slow med playing. I love chilling in tempos where I can BH 6th/dim out. I realized when I just play it's always slower than 120, and picking 120 puts me out of my comfort zone. But it is a normal tempo for group playing and not that fast so I will target that.

Celia in 120.

[pamosmusic]

My plan is to take 120. Then 160. Then I'll be good. I'm already happy with my slow and slow med playing. I love chilling in tempos where I can BH 6th/dim out in. I realized when I just play it's always slower than 120, and picking 120 puts me out of my comfort zone. But it is a normal tempo for group playing and not that fast so I will target that.

Celia in 120.

What do you mean when you say “target” those tempos?

What are you doing to work on it?

[Bobby Timmons]

My bottleneck is technical skills. So what I mean by targeting is being able to play solo fluently in med and med up tempos without my hands seizing up. I've found that your advice I think you said a while ago of putting the metronome on every beat is really helping, especially specifically for solo. That had never occurred to me. Other time keeping methods wouldn't make my time solidify as well. Drum track, backing track, met on 2 and 4 etc. The nazi click on every beat solidifies the time but without any other cushion. Drum track and backing track make it too easy, and met on 2 and 4 is too sparse.

[pamosmusic]

My bottleneck is technical skills. So what I mean by targeting is being able to play solo fluently in med and med up tempos without my hands seizing up. I've found that your advice I think you said a while ago of putting the metronome on every beat is really helping, especially specifically for solo. That had never occurred to me. Other time keeping methods wouldn't make my time solidify as well. Drum track, backing track, met on 2 and 4 etc. The nazi click on every beat solidifies the time but without any other cushion. Drum track and backing track make it too easy, and met on 2 and 4 is too sparse.

You might try the metronome on 1 and 3 too.

2 and 4 is cool but doesn’t really help you feel in bigger chunks because that 1 is always implied.

I don’t doubt that I said to put the click on every beat but that’s I think just the starting point and you should get to where there’s less metronome as quickly as possible.

[supersoul]

You might try the metronome on 1 and 3 too.

2 and 4 is cool but doesn’t really help you feel in bigger chunks because that 1 is always implied.

I don’t doubt that I said to put the click on every beat but that’s I think just the starting point and you should get to where there’s less metronome as quickly as possible.

I definitely put the click on every beat... sometimes usually. It depends what I'm working on. When I'm working on sight reading I will put the click on every beat because I want to concentrate on getting the note rhythms correct. Also when working on Bossa Nova type stuff with less of a backbeat.

The 1 & 3 click is a good idea for high tempos. When I hear Bird play over fast tempos it's almost like he's floating above (might be where he got his name), so I don't think he's sweating every beat.

[Bobby Timmons]

Met on every beat is the ticket for me right now, so that's what I'm doing. Up tempos aren't a goal of mine for playing solo piano, only medium up. No more than upper 100s.

[DawgBone]

Call it the Bobby Timmons Trio and don’t ask for opinions of you don’t want them. A good sideman is happy to play along and collect his $100 at the end of the night.

I ask for opinions, but only on stuff I want advice on. Part of being the boss is sometimes you have to be their boss, not their friend.

This all the way^. My bro drums for me and is the guy who I usually do the head butting with. I can't complain though, I have great guys in my group, all motivated to work hard and play well. Super thankful for that cause man I been through some real pieces of work in the last 8 years.

[2bornot2bop]

Appreciate you putting yourself out there. I listened to Celia twice. But you’re right, your left hand needs work. Have you watched any Peter Martin videos on Open Studio?

Another one for solo piano is Kent Hewitt on YouTube, who is a NY player with videos on your left hand. Check him out.

A walking bass line would have been very appropriate to add variety for Celia, rather than simple left hand voicings. But until you make your left hand a priority, it won’t get better.

You’re fluent in the right hand, but I’d not even consider doing a lot of practice time on improvising, until I worked on my left hand and developing some fluency.

Perhaps that’s not what you want to hear. But every tune, for piano, begins and ends with integrating rhythm of the left hand. You’re telling a story. You can’t leave out the most important part of the story without a left hand. I know you can do this if you apply yourself.

[2bornot2bop]

Something else. Are you having difficulty developing hand independence? Perhaps you can return to playing a simple blues and developing some independence between your hands. Take it as slow as you need.

Concept number 6 in the below video provides ideas of integrating and developing rhythms with the left hand. With practice these same concepts will carry over to practicing standards.

[2bornot2bop]

Are you able to play these concepts for the left hand?

[Bobby Timmons]

Yes, I can play most of those concepts. I was just playing sparsely in the LH because it's a Bud Powell tune and he does that. Here is some of my more pianistic playing at a slower tempo. Working on getting fuller LH in faster tempos.

[2bornot2bop]

Very good. Not knowing where you were just trying to be helpful.

[Bobby Timmons]

Thx. I do like your educational materials.

[Bobby Timmons]

I'm un-mad at rhythm. Metronome on every beat at 120 was the ticket. I'm bringing in some faster tempos now too and it's going well. Worked SNC at 140, 160, 180, and 200 today. Wasn't perfect, but the facility is finally taking. Had to deal with sucking for a while there.

[kris]

[kris]

[pamosmusic]

(Whispers) “now put it on 1 and 3”

[joe2758]

Had to deal with sucking for a while there.

tips?