AI-generated jazz solos

[pamosmusic]

Yeah I think the idea of AI and music is interesting but more because of the processing leaps it had to make to get there.

Honestly as far as the actual impact on performing musicians, I’m not sure it’s that big of a deal. Any musician under 50 has probably never existed in a context where they were providing “music.” They’ve always had to make the case that having live music was about something more than the background noise because they’ve been competing with five disk chargers and for the last twenty years, digital and streaming music.

Im a little more interested in how it will impact teaching. Its probably a long long way off from the kind of analysis that I can do with a student, but I don’t think it’s far off at all from being able to listen to a hobbyist and offer basic advice on ways to improve. Like … if someone had the programming and musical chops, that thing could probably exist now (and maybe does … I don’t know.)

So that’ll be interesting to see how long it takes AI to take a bite out of education the way streaming did out of performing. Or if it’ll be mostly cannibalizing from the part of the market that already got snatched away by YouTube.

[RJVB]

Any musician under 50 has probably never existed in a context where they were providing “music.” They’ve always had to make the case that having live music was about something more than the background noise because they’ve been competing with five disk chargers and for the last twenty years, digital and streaming music.

Outside of classical music and a few other genres where people actually go to concerts with the main-if-not-sole goal to enjoy both the music and watching the musicians make it?

[Grigoris]

The Ten Shilling Wood stuff is scary. I disagree with people saying it sounds AI, to me it sounds quite human...just not very good. But not fake, if that makes sense. Actually, sounds a lot like a rudimentary soloist playing along with Band in a Box.

Well, I read a comment earlier on this thread saying that he didn't think it was AI, so there you have proof of what you're saying.

[pamosmusic]

Outside of classical music and a few other genres where people actually go to concerts with the main-if-not-sole goal to enjoy both the music and watching the musicians make it?

Okay sure, but the number of people who perform in those places for sizable audiences is vanishingly small.

And you did say it … watching the musicians make it. When I try to get a gig, I have to sell people on the idea that there’s something special about having live music that goes beyond that music itself.

I get paid a pretty good chunk for doing a lengthy solo gig … why pay me when I literally walk to the stereo and turn on the music between sets?

I think most musicians have gotten pretty good at making that case for themselves and I don’t know if an AI musician fundamentally changes that. If an AI musician can make the music though, then they could potentially analyze it too and that could possibly be very interesting for teachers (or potentially problematic)

[starjasmine]

Good point, but to link back to what I said earlier (on here, probably): it has been said that CDs too can kill live performance.

I think we've already seen that WRT dance clubs and weddings hiring DJs instead of live musicians, and the same thing was probably said of the recording industry in general when 78 RPM discs were high technology. There are fewer live gigs now.

And, yes, democratization of recording technology has put many famous recording studios and session players out of business.

I don't claim to know where this particular technology is going, but it seems that the democratization of technology always brings with it pluses and minuses. You can now make a studio-quality recording at home, for a fraction of what that would have cost decades ago, without having to be signed to a label. All of that is great. At the same time, it has changed the business for the studios, players, musicians, and labels of yore.

We haven't yet seen much positive impact of AI on music, but it will come. I am looking forward to better tools for reduction of noise and restoration of fidelity on old recordings, for one. I'm sure that some truly new efx pedals/racks that utilize AI in some way are just around the corner. The idea of an AI-driven teaching program has been mentioned by another poster; I'm sure that tech is just around the corner. A really straightforward use case seems to be ear training: there's a well-defined set of "right" answers and the AI can identify the tasks that challenge an individual student to tailor its presentation for that student.

AI is a tool, and we can use it to advance art. Eventually, someone will.

If you've googled things lately, perhaps you've seen the AI-generated responses. I find them helpful, but often very wrong about details. I'm looking forward to their evolution into something even more useful.

$0.02...

[RJVB]

If you've googled things lately, perhaps you've seen the AI-generated responses. I find them helpful, but often very wrong about details.

No, I'm in Europe and/or I disabled the feature. I tried the Liner extension on my ChromeTab for a while but disabled that too because it annoyed me more than anything else. I'll use Google to give answer to certain simple questions (type "450.999 fahrenheit" or 450.999F and it'll tell you that it's 232.777°C ... doesn't work with 451 fahrenheit or 451F for some reason ). But most of the time I want it to give me sites where I can read about the answer I'm looking for.

If I want a nicely redacted succinct summary (aka predigested answer) ... I'll ask here or on another forum

[RJVB]

This really restores my faith in humanity - AI trying its hand at another intellectual art form:

Lezers vinden AI-Shakespeare beter dan de echte

[CliffR]

Interesting article in this morning's Guardian:

AI poetry rated better than poems written by humans, study shows | Books | The Guardian

Lay people (non-poetry-experts) seem to prefer AI attempting to imitate poets over the works of the originals. The researchers theorise this may be because the AI versions are simplified and more accessible (I'm grossly paraphrasing here). I wonder if this would apply to other art forms that require a high level of education and focus to enjoy?

[joe2758]

I wish they showed some of the poems

[joe2758]

here is one from a poem generator. I select "sonnet" and typed "cars" as the topic

In a world where roads stretch far and wide,
There roams a beauty, gleaming, sleek and strong,
A marvel of engineering, by our side,
A symbol of freedom, where we belong.

The car, a vessel of speed and grace,
With wheels that turn, and engines that roar,
It takes us places, to any race,
It opens up worlds, things to explore.

From classic designs to modern machines,
The car comes in all shapes and colors,
Each one unique, with its own means,
To transport us, like no others.

From sedans to coupes, SUVs to trucks,
A car for every need, for all folks.

The steering wheel, a friendship that's true,
Guiding us through every twist and turn,
The engine, a heart that beats anew,
Igniting fires, fueling the yearn.

The smell of leather, the sound of tires,
The feel of power beneath our feet,
The joy of freedom, what it inspires,
As we cruise down streets, feeling complete.

And let's not forget the joy of speed,
The rush of adrenaline, as we go fast,
The wind in our hair, planting the seed,
Of adventure, of fun that will last.

But with great power comes great responsibility,
To drive safe and mindful of others,
To follow the rules, with sensibility,
For the pleasure and safety of our brothers.

So let us cherish our cars, our faithful steeds,
For all the places they take us, all the deeds,
They allow us to do, the memories they breed,
The car, a friend that forever succeeds.

[joe2758]

Good enough for homework assignments!

[joe2758]

what's more is if I maker the same selection it generates an entirely different poem

In the world of speed and steel they reign
The shiny beauties that we call cars
Their engines roar, they never complain
They take us near and they take us far

With sleek designs and colors bold
They captivate our eyes and hearts
Their stories to be forever told
In every curve and line, they leave their marks

From classic models of days gone by
To modern marvels with cutting edge technology
They evoke dreams that soar so high
Of freedom, adventure, and endless velocity

The purr of the engine, the rush of the wind
In our cars, our journeys begin

On winding roads and highways long
They carry us with grace and power
Their presence fierce, their engines strong
In every mile, in every hour

They are more than just machines
They are our companions on the road of life
They fulfill our dreams and our wildest scenes
Their beauty cuts through like a sharp knife

From muscle cars that scream of power
To luxury rides that whisper of wealth
They cater to every taste, every desire
In them, we find a piece of ourselves

They come in all shapes and sizes
Compact cars, SUVs, and trucks
Each one with its own surprises
Each one with its own unique luck

So let us celebrate these wonders
These marvels of engineering and design
They make our lives richer, without any blunders
In our cars, our hearts align

Let us cherish the memories we make
In these four-wheeled beauties that we hold dear
They give us wings, they make our spirits awake
In our cars, we have nothing to fear

So raise a toast to the cars we love
To the roads we travel and the sights we see
In them, we find freedom, like a soaring dove
In them, we find joy, like a summer breeze

For cars are more than just machines
They are our companions in a world so vast
In them, we find magic, in them, we find dreams
In our cars, our adventures last

So let us never take them for granted
These treasures that we drive and ride
In every journey, they are enchanted
By our side, they stand with pride

So here's to cars, our trusted steeds
Our faithful friends on the road
In them, we find all that we need
In them, our love is forever bestowed.

[joe2758]

last one, i typed in "jazz guitar"

Soulful melodies, fingers dancing on the strings,A jazz guitar's caress, a symphony it brings.Smooth and sultry, the notes caress the air,Weaving a tapestry of emotions, beyond compare.The rhythm pulses, a heartbeat in the night,Inviting the soul to sway, to feel the music's might.From mellow ballads to upbeat, swinging tunes,The jazz guitar captivates, its melody croons.Improvisation flows, a spontaneous delight,Each note a brushstroke, painting the musical sight.The instrument's voice, a language all its own,Speaks to the heart, leaving listeners enthroned.In the dimly lit club, the jazz guitar takes the stage,Weaving a tapestry of sound, a timeless, ageless.A journey through the realms of emotion and grace,Where the jazz guitar reigns, a master of its place.

[CliffR]

I wish they showed some of the poems

Agreed - I'd love to see the real TS Elliot versus the artificial version. Can't say I care at all for any of the examples you've posted .

[joe2758]

Can't say I care at all for any of the examples you've posted .

me either lol

[pauln]

Real human poetry
foreseeing LLM AI;
King Crimson 1969

I talk to the wind
My words are all carried away
I talk to the wind
The wind does not hear
The wind cannot hear

[Betz]

Computer generated singers have been selling out concerts in Japan for 15 years. That's before all the AI invasion in music:

We can fight the power! Grab your guitar and you play the AI.

MIKU STOMP - STOMP EFFECT | KORG (USA)

[Betz]

[Grigoris]

[Grigoris]

Not just a solo, a whole f***ing album. Are you scared yet?