Does anybody buy recordings anymore?

[Bach5G]

Does anybody buy recordings anymore? Not just vinyl but CDs or whatever.

I’m very, very late to the party but I’ve finally got around to Joe Henderson. Back in the day, I might have headed down to the record store or, much more recently, ordered a bunch of CDs from Amazon.

Now, I can stream nearly anything.

[Old Nick]

Yes

[A. Kingstone]

No. I have such a ridiculous collection from when I did.

[Old Nick]

No. I have such a ridiculous collection from when I did.

How do you define ridiculous

[wintermoon]

that'd be a big YES.
probably have over 1500 lp's, maybe 300 cd's, almost all jazz.
still like the physical part of taking vinyl out of the sleeve, especially an original pressing, putting it on the turntable and looking at the cover when it's spinning just like the orig owner did 50-60-70 yrs ago.
I've been selling some lately, mostly stuff I'm pretty sure I'll never listen to again, I don't collect just to have stuff and they take up a lot of room.

hard to buy orig press Blue Note/Prestige titles these days as you need very deep pockets but already have most of what I want.
the cool part is there's always one I don't have, so I'm still discovering.....

[Old Nick]

[deacon Mark]

Never and I got rid of most all I have except for some real gems that are all jazz guitar. I Have a bunch of Johnny Smith Royal Roost records and Hank Garland ect. I would be glad to sell it to anyone on the forum for a reasonable price even cheap if they come get them in person. PM and I can take picture of the stuff too much to list.

But no I just go to youtube and listen. Have not bought a recording in many years.

[A. Kingstone]

How do you define ridiculous

Old Nick - Your set up is lovely and I wish I still had the 'fondle value' (Zappa) of the records but I live in 700 square feet, about the size of that beautiful hall of yours.

[wintermoon]

very nice, who made the shelves? I have Ikea's I bought 40 yrs ago but I had to make divider supports to prevent sag.
I understand Ikea has shelves called Kallax now that come w/the dividers built in.

[Doug B]

How do you define ridiculous

50,000,995 albums. Oh wait-that's my collection!

Doug

[henryrobinett]

I buy all of my music. But physical CDs? Rarely. If I hear it on Sirus Jazz or a recommendation I will just buy it on iTunes. Always. I believe in supporting artists whenever I can.


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[Old Nick]

very nice, who made the shelves? I have Ikea's I bought 40 yrs ago but I had to make divider supports to prevent sag.
I understand Ikea has shelves called Kallax now that come w/the dividers built in.

Ikea Expedit. Kallax replaced them i think.

[Old Nick]

Old Nick - Your set up is lovely and I wish I still had the 'fondle value' (Zappa) of the records but I live in 700 square feet, about the size of that beautiful hall of yours.

Thanks! We dedicated our living room to music, so it houses the main audio system and music collection. Overflow has to live downstairs...

[dconeill]

Does anybody buy recordings anymore? Not just vinyl but CDs or whatever. ...
Now, I can stream nearly anything.

I buy digital copies of recordings frequently. I don't buy CDs, LPs, or even 8-track tapes anymore. (I remember having an 8-track player in my first car, an orange VW Squareback whose engine caught fire more than once...) I'm in the process of converting my remaining CDs to digital files on my computer. Vinyl went out of my house a few years back.

I miss the ceremony of playing LPs - but those days are behind me.

I figure if I don't buy something, the musicians don't eat. Then they don't play anymore. They get little enough from what I do buy.

[Mick-7]

I buy all of my music. But physical CDs? Rarely. If I hear it on Sirius Jazz or a recommendation I will just buy it on iTunes. Always. I believe in supporting artists whenever I can.

I'm not sure that supports musicians. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but I think they only earn a few cents on a streamed copy of an album vs maybe a few dollars for a CD.

[mr. beaumont]

I do. Turns out I'm into some obscure shit that never made it to streaming.

[ccroft]

I'm not sure that supports musicians. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but I think they only earn a few cents on a streamed copy of an album vs maybe a few dollars for a CD.

Buying digital copies may not be the same as streaming.

I bought the digital copy of Okazaki's Work on bandcamp for some $25. I ended up buying 2 more of his there. I would think in that scenario the artists get a solid slice. I bought a few from some forum members there too.

I stream on youtube. Great way to check out new stuff. But it really bugs me that a lot of the time they don't have accurate recording dates, and often there's no credits for the sidemen. That's just wrong.

I'm with Henry: I like to support the players I like. And I can afford it now where I couldn't when I was playing for a living. Especially the less known ones... like Christian. Or Henry.

[henryrobinett]

I'm not sure that supports musicians. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but I think they only earn a few cents on a streamed copy of an album vs maybe a few dollars for a CD.

Buying online is NOT streaming. I’m not in favor of streaming. I’m talking about buying albums on iTunes or Amazon. I do listen to sirus in the car. That’s how I hear a lot of new music. If I like it I take a photo of the track in the car so I remember it, go home and buy the entire album.


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[Mick-7]

Buying online is NOT streaming. I’m not in favor of streaming. I’m talking about buying albums on iTunes or Amazon. I do listen to sirus in the car. That’s how I hear a lot of new music. If I like it I take a photo of the track in the car so I remember it, go home and buy the entire album.

I did notice that you said iTunes, by "streamed" I meant a digital download. But my point still applies: do musicians make any real money from these? A single CD sells for more than a one month subscription to one of these services.

I bought the digital copy of Okazaki's Work on bandcamp for some $25. I ended up buying 2 more of his there. I would think in that scenario the artists get a solid slice.

Well, that's a much higher purchase price, over twice what an iTunes/Amazon monthly subscription would cost.

[mr. beaumont]

I did notice that you said iTunes, by "streamed" I meant a digital download. But my point still applies: do musicians make any real money from these? A single CD sells for more than a one month subscription to one of these services.



Well, that's a much higher purchase price, over twice what an iTunes/Amazon monthly subscription would cost.

Musicians make money from gigs and merch, if you're one of those bands people want to buy a t shirt of.

We've found every other way as a society to fuck musicians out of any money. Yet we still want music. So now we're getting horrid AI generated bullshit. We get what we deserve. Apparently it's the Chainsmokers.

[pamosmusic]

I did notice that you said iTunes, by "streamed" I meant a digital download. But my point still applies: do musicians make any real money from these? A single CD sells for more than a one month subscription to one of these services.



Well, that's a much higher purchase price, over twice what an iTunes/Amazon monthly subscription would cost.

You're talking about two different things.

You can subscribe to Apple Music, which means you can stream anything from their cache. Or you can buy a single album for 11.99 or whatever. The artist is going to get very little from the former, and is going to get a pretty decent chunk of the latter.

But Mr. B's point is still the salient one ... very very very few people buy music any more (why would they) so bands really don't make any real money at all from that. For a jazz musician, a recording is marketing material, they're probably just hoping to break even after a year or two. People who actually make money from streaming aren't being paid per stream, they're getting a huge lump sum (probably per year or something) for the rights to include their music in the service. So for someone like Beyonce or Ed Sheeran, the streaming service is just paying the label or whoever owns the rights to the music, rather than actually paying them per stream.

[wintermoon]

I still buy CDs, LPs and will only download if I can't get the physical media.
I love the ritual of loading the CD and reading the liner notes from the page. The place in the stacks also gives me a quick reference to other related music if I want to continue to listen.
This is about 20% of a room that wraps around 360 degrees of music, recorded and printed page:
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Lp's? Cd's? Who cares?.....nice JDQ7 JBN!

[RLetson]

I bought three CDs just today. Though I'm stumped for where to put them--even if I could find CD-size shelving, there's no open wall space for it.

But the CD really does to seem to be yesterday's medium--at Ashokan last month, I asked one of my teachers about the CDs he had on the display table, and he said, "Take as many as you like. Please." On the other hand, the players our folk society books just about always have merch and sell decent amounts. And on the third hand, our audience demographic skews geriatric (as do I), so maybe when we're gone, so will that market. Meanwhile, I like having "albums," whether the old LPs or my forty-year-old CD library, which now would take longer to play through than I have years left.

[ruger9]

I buy recordings all the time. 99% of the time these days that means "download". I do try to download from private sources (meaning NOT iTunes; I try to use a service like Bandcamp), because I know the artist is getting more of the money that way.

If buying CDs was still viable (I no longer have a CD player... well I do, but it's an external drive I have to plug into my laptop), would buy CDs instead of downloads.

[James W]

I still buy CDs - I'm old enough to remember this still being the primary way of being enabled to listen to something. They are stacked high on almost all available space around my room. And I buy downloads, mostly from bandcamp but also from Presto Classical. I only acquired my own laptop in 2017, but it was a few years later that I started buying downloads, mostly because of my sort of luddite suspicion of downloading music - since I liked to have a physical copy of something. I've never bothered with vinyl though - the only exception being a fancy deluxe reissue of Bitches Brew which also contained CDs as well as posters and other goodies.