The best ways of ear training

[pauln]

It is enough to spend 30 minutes a day...

[kris]

It's hard - so I'll be using my internal hearing.

[CliffR]

Do you think the app helps or do you just get better at using the app?

The app plays a short chord sequence ending on the tonic, then a single note, and asks the user to state the relationship of the note to the tonic. It tracks the user's progress over a series of more and more challenging variants. Yes, I think it's helping.

[StuartF]

If I spent 30 minutes a day on Beato Ear Training, I’d wind up hospitalized.

[orri]

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Looks somewhat like playing songs/music domain vs. exercises and/or systematic method domain

[kris]

If I spent 30 minutes a day on Beato Ear Training, I’d wind up hospitalized.

I do not know this.
is this torture?

[emanresu]

I do ear training with starting students now. The failure and boredom is painful to watch.

[emanresu]

Ear training is essential for most musicians.
How important is having a good ear to play jazz music?
Does everyone approach this topic with respect?

Yes.
Very.
Not enough. edit: never enough.

[Liarspoker]

Music is an hearing art. Yesterday when driving my eldest home after sport he got a running commentary on the orchestral piece that was playing on the radio.

Opening was a big accented minor chord, sets the scene, followed by a few major chords, back to minor, introduction of theme, soloist enters, key change after the A section etc. I'm actually surprised how well my ear functions especially after starting with a tin ear. Then again I was trying to work out Vai and Satriani stuff when I first started playing.

My holy Trinity;

* Sing intervals, scales, arpeggios, melodies etc
* Transcribe... a lot
* Teoria ear training app

Best of the three, for me, is singing....

[Victor Saumarez]

If there is one regret I have after playing over 35 years, it's not developing my ear more. I would say it is as important as motor skills. If you relied on your sense of timing alone, you're going to get caught out. The difficulty for many is their main instrument may not be a chordal one. For guitarists, be able to hear piano harmonies is important. So, it points to learning some basics on the piano. The alternative would be to try and transcribe chords. There's probably a plethora of courses available.