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  1. #151

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    When I get round to making a decent recording of one of my tunes, it's def getting its own thread

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  3. #152

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    Well I try to check out any new threads here, and always comment on any one that grabs me in some way. By the way, I'm not going to even ask how you get that insane tone in "easy c minor blues final"

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    Hello everyone,

    It is a very good idea to share our compositions. Can't wait to listen to other memebers stuff.

    Here is a composition I recorded last year. If anyone is interested I can give the sheet music with pleasure.

    Take care.



    S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spal View Post
    Hello everyone,

    It is a very good idea to share our compositions. Can't wait to listen to other memebers stuff.

    Here is a composition I recorded last year. If anyone is interested I can give the sheet music with pleasure.

    Take care.



    S.
    Great! I checked your other stuff on You Tube. You have your certain style.
    Uffe Steen Music: http://www.uffe-steen.dk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyppolyte Bergamotte View Post
    I´ve heard this before . Its getting better and better
    Uffe Steen Music: http://www.uffe-steen.dk

  7. #156

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    Hey,

    Check out my composition:



    Looking forward to your comments

  8. #157
    Man there's so much great stuff on this thread. I'll go out on a limb and throw one of my own out there. It's a Bobby Timmons inspired hard Bop tune called Betcha Can't. I recorded it with a school jazz combo and two mics.

    Michael Hilbun - Guitarist, Instructor, Composer
    www.michaelhilbun.com

  9. #158
    Not bad at all. Very jazzy! If you did it at school you (all) must have been quite young. Hope you did shows :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    Not bad at all. Very jazzy! If you did it at school you (all) must have been quite young. Hope you did shows :-)
    Thank you! Not that long ago actually! This tune/recording is from about a year ago. I only just graduated from my undergrad studies earlier this month. I'll be re-recording it as part of my first record along with the other tunes on my SoundCloud and more. Tell me what you think of this one. It's an older composition but newer recording. It's called Fifty-68!

    Michael Hilbun - Guitarist, Instructor, Composer
    www.michaelhilbun.com

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    It's good. Do you just want me to say it was great or give you something constructive? I've never liked people who say everything's wonderful to keep you sweet.

    I think the tunes's good. Very good rhythmically and harmonically. I think the level of instrumental playing's excellent. Drums, sax, these guys know what they're doing. Not perfect but pretty damn good.

    But you're the guitarist and you're here! Again good. I liked the slight overdrive. If I have one idea it's that your solo bordered a little on pentatonic and other set-ish forms rather than lines - but you've got your altered sounds off, which is good. The sax player - because they practice and learn that way - used more lines which, to be honest, is probably better jazz. But guitar is hard, let no one tell you otherwise. But it was still good and personally I think the band has a future...

    Unless it was only school/undergrad stuff that'll be forgotten once you've left and get into the cruel, demanding world :-)

    By the way, what are you studying? Music, presumably... or not?

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    Thanks! No I'm not one who just wants to be told "good job". I don't learn anything from "good job", so I value actual critiques. I'm glad you like the tune! At its core, it's just a blues! With the changing time signatures, I probably did just stick to pentatonic stuff. Soloing in odd time signatures is a tricky enough thing even without all kinds of crazy scales and what not. Like I said earlier, I'll be re-recording it for a record I'm doing, so I'll be sure to practice exploring other sounds than pentatonic.

    As for what you said about the band's future, unfortunately we all knew each other from school and we've all graduated and gone separate ways. As for myself, I studied jazz studies at University of Louisiana at Lafayette and took some composition lessons. In August, I'll be starting work on my Masters degree at the University of New Orleans studying with Steve Masakowski. There's way more jazz in New Orleans!
    Michael Hilbun - Guitarist, Instructor, Composer
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    Well, it all sounds brilliant. I envy you!

    Yes, odd time sigs aren't easy. I tried 5/4 the other month and it tied me up in knots :-)

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    Hello,


    I am a beginner jazz player which is inspired by Latin bossa-nova Brazilian jazz tunes!
    That is a couple of my recent tunes (as you can see both of them are very similar):



    I will be very grateful for everyone who can suggest me some standards or particular jazz-rock players which will be useful for further development of my repertoire following the same concept :-)

    Gleb

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    I wanted to do a blues with a summery feel to it. Nothing earth-shattering but it's quite pleasant.

    Very interesting. A unique kind of melancholy.

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    Very nice.

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    copied this from my other post to here, trying to get the hang of this, no fun being old in a modern world


    "Think it Through" Jazz Waltz

    One i wrote, "Think it Through" guitar myself with horns, this was purely to send to my notators,
    so is very accurate, but very dry not too far out playing but 100%, because they are so good they notate mistakes, i learnt this the hard way.

    Form AABA 16 in/outro Jazz Waltz Jazz Fusion Rock vibe, no improv, just straight thro entire piece. It has been recorded with Piano, TS, Trp, Bass,Drums,Guitar with improvised solos.

    Interesting hearing your own compositions, played for 1st time, say on Trombones Horns, etc there are tiny differences, since the guitar played fast mordent type figures & glisses which very difficult to notate, (easy to play)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris View Post
    New tune I played my short scale nylon strings guitar-Antonio Sanches 1020A:
    https://app.box.com/s/zgbkupyttz99uykckqowqmhp6jgz17zz
    Very nice and fluid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    This is just a modal piece. Between the bookends there are a number of possibilities. This one is fairly simple.

    Early mist, birds taking flight lazily. Celtic heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandoori View Post
    Since that went so well, another composition with guitar, no improv just to show the melody and harmony, interesting is the distinct lack of interest unless a standard, then this is a guitar forum.

    If anyone would like advice/help making altered harmony sound straight and palatable ask and you will receive, unfortunately difficult holding a glass to my mouth at times, i will be back playing soon.

    In case of Apathy some imaginary Q & A about

    Q. is it really traveling thro almost 12 keys in 4 bars?
    A. Yes

    Q. Can you think of other songs with this in?
    A. Yes, most often in the bridge

    Q. Does this sort of thing sound good?
    A. I think yes, so does Bach and Barry Harris

    Q. There is something unusual about the form no of bars etc. what is it?
    A. Stablemate is 14 bars , this is not Stablemates, cant you count?

    Q. Was this difficult too notate?
    A. The double feel (not double time section ) is complex because it is then the semiquavers that are swung and just as with notating swing quavers we tend to write them straight and indicate swing. Here it is more
    complex because we are not so used to reading semiquavers as swung.

    Q. is this a ballad?
    A. yes, approx 59-60 Adante, but not quite Adagio you need players who are awake for that.

    Q. Are there any unusual chords?
    A. No way stupid!

    Q. Do you have any more compositions?
    A. Why do you ask?

    Q. Will this help you get your music out there?
    A. NO way.........

    Q. Is this Jazz?
    A. Do you need to ask?

    Q. Can you effortlessly solo over all the changes and swing?
    A. Are you joking?

    Q. Are you modest?
    A. You bore me. (another piece of mine )

    Q. What key is it in?
    A. Dont know.

    Q. You seem self assured?
    A. No, i am not American.

    Q. Are you of Indian origin?
    A. No, i designed Stonehenge.

    Q. Why have you done this?
    A. Chiefly self amusement, and a cunning subversive Corporate Marketing strategy, all nattily designed
    to reel in huge amounts $$$$$$$$$ "Greed is the Key"

    Q. Will you make some instructional videos?
    A. Yes when health is up, and now that uncle Reg532 ( Damn show off ) seems to have stopped, (joking)
    Reg is really fantastic, but i am prettier than him, but dont play so well as Reg, who does?

    Q. Will anyone take offense to your slightly quirky manner?
    A. Goodness me no,i mean they voted Trump & May in, so have a some humour.

    Q. Whats your favourite chord?
    A. E E B E G# B E

    Q. Are you better than Wes Montgomery?
    A. No one is, i am far better than Sco Holdsworth Zappa Barney Pat, but working on Wes.

    Go to it
    Heya, I enjoyed this a lot. I really like what you are doing with the phrasing.

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    I often perform my own compositions, so I'm trying not to spam this thread too much but I thought you might enjoy this slightly 30 degree heatwave addled version of my tune Nibiru, which I posted a leadsheet for a few months back and a few forum members made recordings of.

    It's a contrefact. Name that tune!



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    Christian Miller - Guitar
    Marcus Penrose - Double Bass
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    2 people in the audience sweating half to death and the windows wide open... That's a jazz gig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandoori View Post
    Thanks Christian.


    I have many pieces, all fairly different, just happens, its a weird process, without sounding up myself very organic. Never planned but with a lot of input. if that makes sense.


    That particular piece has a few bars of the Barry Harris goodies, That boy is the world best in terms of elegant swing (end of) not even Keith J Corea, Bill E can do that.


    thx again, as you probably know it is almost impossible to hear ones own work, (you sort of know and you dont know)
    Yep Barry is up there in the pantheon of swinging along with Wynton Kelly, Red, Hank Jones....

    It's often the way I'll hear some Blue Note era record I've never heard, hear some fantastic piano and realise that of course, it's Barry.

    I try to model my swing on his - I love his style, laid back, straightish, but with elegant triplet embellishments and always catching the upbeat in the right place. I think Raney was his closest equivalent on guitar - no surprise the Barry singled Jimmy out for praise among guitar players. Bruce Foreman has some of that in his playing too I think?

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    Well, I skimmed through the stuff above sorry for repetition or stating the obvious, but for 4 on 3 (which I confess is not a rhythm I have used) I would start with subdivision.

    Divide the 3/4 bar into 16th notes:

    1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4

    Or

    Ta ka di mi Ta ka di mi Ta ka di mi

    Then group thusly, bold is the beat, not the accent:

    1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3
    Or
    Ta ki da Ta ki da Ta ki da Ta ki da

    Then just count the 1's and leave out the others, or just say the 'Ta's

    Pretty straightforward, no? Groupings of 3 against 4 is a pretty old jazz rhythm. Think It Don't Mean a Thing - doo wa doo wa doo wa.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen 4 on 3 in a few charts - IIRC there's one in the Real Book?
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    [QUOTE=Tandoori;781905]
    Quote Originally Posted by christianm77 View Post
    Well, I skimmed through the stuff above sorry for repetition or stating the obvious, but for 4 on 3 (which I confess is not a rhythm I have used) I would start with subdivision.


    Divide the 3/4 bar into 16th notes:: I would not start 16ths ,




    Christian glad to see youre interested , good boy,


    Without sounding rude, You are over complicating it i know what you trying to do.


    here goes


    A. Two 2 beats each a dotted crotchet in 3/4 makes each beat 1 1/2 X 2 = 3 beats


    B. divide each beat 1.5 into half makes 2 dotted quavers per dotted crotchet so now 4 dotted quavers per bar gives you 4 beats over three all the same



    The hard part is
    A. reading it if not familiar
    B. Conceptualizing it @first


    This is actually pretty easy to play. it is really a feel, trust me if you start thinking it can be difficult.
    So the trick is to understand what is is then just kind of feel it, Just do it


    Bill Evans played a lot in 3/4 he does this all over, you know it when you hear it........
    he sometimes plays 4/4 right across 3/4 and instead of resolving notes he resolves the rhythm
    if this makes sense, and you kinda go hell thats was neat, but not really knowing what it was kinda thing


    Tilting...... In bars 2, 9, 29 & 30 of my image pic, this is 4 over 3 in bar 29 & 30 it is very complicated syncopated but easy to play,

    possibly why Ragman mentioned the backing, with a Real pianist who can play this is no problem,
    but a problem is if the backing (non adjustable) is playing syncopated chords it can throw things.

    4 over 3 is a beautiful rythm and piano should be just on one if at all, because it is a complex poly rthmy
    but thats how it sounds. Ragman if listening thats what it is, and thx for hearing that, i am working on
    that,


    I'm pretty sure I've seen 4 on 3 in a few charts - IIRC there's one in the Real Book? I am sure there is cant recall at mo.
    I'll have you know I make an excellent Daal.

    Anyway. I kind of see what you mean... I can see that you could get a bit of a crossed feel with the straight 16ths over the swung feel, so to speak. As I say it's not a rhythm I've played around with too much, but I think it would be a great one to loosen up my 3/4 phrasing a bit.

    In general I would work on subdivisions to get everything as accurate as possible before relaxing somewhat as the rhythm becomes more intuitive. I'd do this for pretty much anything. Otherwise, I might not actually be executing the rhythm correctly. But different people work in different ways.

    I'm not saying this in your case, but 'just feel it' can be an excuse for executing things inaccurately. My experience has been that swing comes from relaxed accuracy. Mere accuracy can be stiff and possibly rush, but mere relaxation can drag and be rhythmically formless.

    However you find helps you get to both, it's worth separating out the intuitive thing that happens in actual music and the highly exacting narrow practice you need to equip yourself with the tools to do it. I personally need to understand the rhythm before I execute it. Of course the aim is that both rhythms can be felt one over the other at the same time - there's not just one way to acheive this.

    (I'm talking about my own process here)

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    Thank you, citizen74. There is life after all!

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    Still haven't listened, but you should change the title to "Dm, I Sad", or I will make contrafact, one day, by that name.


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    Wiki:
    Nigel Tufnel, one of the members of the musical spoof megagroup Spinal Tap, speaks of "a musical trilogy I'm working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don't know why."
    Now when I listened to it, I can say I'm not in jail.
    It was the moment I saw Am ..., I thought no, not Am, Dm is the sad one.
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    Tufnel's tune may have been sad and in Dm, but the song's working title was....


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    I'm sure I'm breaking all sorts of protocols by posting this; style-wise, sound-wise, recording-quality wise, but here goes. More funk than jazz, more jazz than rock, welcome to my weird musical brain. Also not sure if the file is attaching...
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Heres one I've been working on for a while...pardon the extreme reverb

    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreymatz

    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

    --The Ghost of Duke Ellington

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhythmisking View Post
    I'm sure I'm breaking all sorts of protocols by posting this; style-wise, sound-wise, recording-quality wise, but here goes. More funk than jazz, more jazz than rock, welcome to my weird musical brain. Also not sure if the file is attaching...


    Can you host on Sound cloud or do a YouTube thing? Folks are generally wary of downloading stuff here.
    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreymatz

    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

    --The Ghost of Duke Ellington

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Can you host on Sound cloud or do a YouTube thing? Folks are generally wary of downloading stuff here.
    Right! Rookie move, sorry.

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    Maybe this is better?

    Egeria by Paul Strom | ReverbNation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhythmisking View Post
    I'm sure I'm breaking all sorts of protocols by posting this; style-wise, sound-wise, recording-quality wise, but here goes.
    You're not doing any such thing. It's an open jazz forum and this thread is for your own compositions. Of course, if you don't want to mix with the riff-raff* there's always the SHOWCASE thread for world-class level jazz players... or even better than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    You're not doing any such thing. It's an open jazz forum and this thread is for your own compositions. Of course, if you don't want to mix with the riff-raff* there's always the SHOWCASE thread for world-class level jazz players... or even better than that!
    The riff-raff are my tribe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Heres one I've been working on for a while...pardon the extreme reverb
    You are duly pardoned.

    Actually I really liked that. I wasn't sure at first then, as it went on, I began to enjoy it; it kind of floated along and took you with it. It's subtle, it may have repetitions but it wasn't repetitive. Clever - but I'd expect that from you anyway. So there.

    Btw, as we're here, I've been meaning to ask you if you'd have a go at Caravan sometime. I want to see what you make of it. I think it's tricky but you might make mincemeat of it, I don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhythmisking View Post
    The riff-raff are my tribe!
    Tribal music is all about us, take my word :-)

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    I made a soundcloud page, hopefully this is easier...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1 View Post
    You are duly pardoned.

    Actually I really liked that. I wasn't sure at first then, as it went on, I began to enjoy it; it kind of floated along and took you with it. It's subtle, it may have repetitions but it wasn't repetitive. Clever - but I'd expect that from you anyway. So there.

    Btw, as we're here, I've been meaning to ask you if you'd have a go at Caravan sometime. I want to see what you make of it. I think it's tricky but you might make mincemeat of it, I don't know
    Man, I've beer trying for a month...I can't get anywhere with it. I even put it in E...F/E...E7b9...went all Spanish...

    How can a song with such a cool A section have the corniest B section ever?
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    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhythmisking View Post
    I made a soundcloud page, hopefully this is easier...

    Man, I love it! It's jazzy, it's fusiony, it reminds me a little of Phish (from me, that's a compliment)...very cool knotty little tune.
    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
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    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

    --The Ghost of Duke Ellington

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Man, I've beer trying for a month
    Is that one of those Freudian slips? :-)

    But seriously... it's not entirely un-Bossa given the 7b5s and 69s but when you start improvising it doesn't come over that way, it's more modern/avant-gard. It's like it has that bossa flavour but isn't held by it. Which is good, I think, because it means you're not thinking rigidly within a certain style or format.

    I didn't mind at all that the A and B flowed into each other. It was less obvious than 'That was A, now this is B'.

    I think only once did my ears prick up. At 2.15 you hit an obvious dom7 sound which, up till then, wasn't that audible. Maybe that was a bit corny in the total context, but that's all.

    No, I liked it, and I liked the improv a lot too. Lifted it out of the realm of the ordinary. It's a good tune. Needs a name :-)

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    Yes, Caravan. Can't get that one rolling, "beer trying" or not

    Right now, I like my tune. It needs a name...it's pretty representative of how I'm hearing things now...simple melodies with interesting chords.

    I'm working on a tune now that repeats the same 4 bar melody 4 times, but harmonizes it differently each pass through...I'll post that one as soon as I figure out how I'm getting back to the top
    Jeff Matz, Jazz Guitar:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreymatz

    "Jazz is like life...it goes on longer than you think, and as soon as you're like 'oh, I get it,' it ends."

    --The Ghost of Duke Ellington

  45. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Heres one I've been working on for a while...pardon the extreme reverb

    Enjoyed it very much. Thanks for sharing! The reverb is just right

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzthebee View Post
    I think Mr. B was referring to Caravan, not his tune here.
    Thank you, fuzz, on the ball as always. I must be a bit dozy these days. I put it down to doing Caravan too much.

    Okay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont View Post
    Yes, Caravan. Can't get that one rolling, "beer trying" or not
    You're not the only one. I keep saying it's tricky.

    How can a song with such a cool A section have the corniest B section ever?
    Well, that's the thing. Given the extended exotic verse what do you do over the bridge? If that had been 'Arabic' too it wouldn't have been a jazz tune. Not properly anyway.

    So they had to think of something else. And I think it's really clever. The chords are dom7s and they played that 6th sound over them. Sounds open, like the desert at night when you're resting and looking up at the stars... That's the way I see it and I like it!

    Right now, I like my tune. It needs a name...it's pretty representative of how I'm hearing things now...simple melodies with interesting chords.
    I still like it. Even if it's not Caravan

    I'm working on a tune now that repeats the same 4 bar melody 4 times, but harmonizes it differently each pass through...I'll post that one as soon as I figure out how I'm getting back to the top
    Looking forward to that.

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    I put Diehlin' on the thread I wrote about Eddie passing away. Here it is again, plus 3 other tunes with lyrics: Small Craft Warning, Lodestar and Beautiful Losers (also inspired by Eddie's passing):

    For some reason I can't upload my lyric sheets in .doc form. If anyone's interested I'll paste them in...
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    Here are C and Bb PDFs for Diehlin':
    Attached Images Attached Images Our Own Compositions. Post them here!-diehlin-concert-jpg Our Own Compositions. Post them here!-diehlin-bb-jpg 

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