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That was loose, meandering (in a good way), and it all hung together. The best part: I would never think to write anything like that. That's what I like about these kinds of threads: listening and learning.
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Some talented folks here...
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original composition: Fractals
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Some old mates playing one of my songs a while back.
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Absolutely, I'd go with that. It's not the same as composing, say, a memorable tune but it is composing after a fashion. Originally Posted by fasstrack
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Charlie Parker did compose memorable tunes though! My Little Suede Shoes? Yardbird Suite? Who can say it's not memorable? Fantastic! Originally Posted by ragman1
Everyone is talking Donna Lee or Confirmation or whatever, and it's fine, jazz is the nerds paradise, I got it
But it's not all he has done as a composer.
But I agree, a good improvised solo can be counted as composition as well.
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I didn't mean an improviser couldn't also compose tunes! Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
Charlie Parker did compose memorable tunes though! My Little Suede Shoes? Yardbird Suite? Who can say it's not memorable? Fantastic!
Everyone is talking Donna Lee or Confirmation or whatever, and it's fine, jazz is the nerds paradise, I got it But it's not all he has done as a composer.
But I agree, a good improvised solo can be counted as composition as well.
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Konitz was talking abouy his PLAYING, that he had a stockpile of ideas, quotes and phrases he could summon and cross-reference at will. His tunes sounded like improvisations to me... Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
Charlie Parker did compose memorable tunes though! My Little Suede Shoes? Yardbird Suite? Who can say it's not memorable? Fantastic!
Everyone is talking Donna Lee or Confirmation or whatever, and it's fine, jazz is the nerds paradise, I got it But it's not all he has done as a composer.
But I agree, a good improvised solo can be counted as composition as well.
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This is my first composition recorded.
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
Thanks!!!
We have a lot to learn and a long way to go, but we're trying.
Most of our audience are swing dancers. We have three dancers in our quartet. xD
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Here are three of mine, one borderline jazz, one not even close one that sort of bridges the divide
My Baby is an Eco-tourist by John Albin | Free Listening on SoundCloud
Black Dog At My Door by John Albin | Free Listening on SoundCloud
John
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Not sure if this is meant to be tunes we're working on, or already completed and recorded pieces...
But here's a tune I wrote that ended up being the title track off my last album
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This is great man... almost reminds me of some Wayne Shorter type stuff. Not that I don't love your playing, but I'd love to hear this arranged for, and performed by, a small ensemble. Any chance you got Herbie and Wayne's numbers?? Originally Posted by Uffe Steen
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So nice of you to comment, Jordan. Thanks :-) Originally Posted by jordanklemons
This is great man... almost reminds me of some Wayne Shorter type stuff. Not that I don't love your playing, but I'd love to hear this arranged for, and performed by, a small ensemble. Any chance you got Herbie and Wayne's numbers??
You are such a skilled player.
I actual performing my original stuff often with a trio. Also this tune.
Im a little in doubt what kind of numbers refering to those giants you mean?
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Phone numbers Uffe... phone numbers Originally Posted by Uffe Steen
I'd love to hear you play with a trio sometime. Are there videos or recordings anywhere?
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Sitting back enjoying so many of these...
Fuzz, that tone, those bends...dang.
Uffe...beautifully challenging melody, brilliant clang of open strings
Ragman, bee music, so peaceful, gentle
Jordan, my goodness, I live that agrestive distorted tone, and the arrangement is just killer.
John, the kind of groove (don't wanna say smooth, but it is) jazz I love. Could listen to that all Sunday and any day.
Cleb...old school! Love that sound...and you play a kingpin, so you're obviously smart...
I'm sure I missed a few, and that's just this page. Time to pour an IPA (Solemn Oath SnagLe tooth bandanna) and listen more...
I'll get in too, a tune I wrote a few years back...tried to remember it this afternoon, as I hadn't played it in ages...
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I'm enjoying, discovering and getting inspired by a lot of posts on this thread! Thanks a lot!
Here's my contribution, a song that although not a straightforward jazz tune, was born from my desire to play jazz. It's all autoproduced. The Spanish title doesn't mean anything, it's just a bunch of grammatical nonsense that is as disorganized as the structure of the song itself
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Thanks fuzz. Originally Posted by fuzzthebee
As for the polyrhythmic thing, is there a particular section you're referring to? Or just the overall thing?
I think there's a sort of metric modulation in here at some point. That's why I'm asking.
But I chose to notate the entire thing in just one time sig anyway.
I'd originally wrote the whole thing out in 6/8 thinking that would be the easiest way to conceive of the tune. I showed it the guy I was studying arranging with at the time and he was like, "Yeah this is cool, now you need to go and re-write the whole thing out in 3/4... if you want anybody to be able to read this without hours of rehearsing."
He was right. The melody plays and accents the syncopated '&' constantly. And in 6/8, those get notated out with 16th notes. It was a mess. It looked so visually confusing. It took a ridiculous number of hours to rewrite, as the score was about 50 pages. But now it's all 8th notes. So much easier to read. Still took a bit to work out the kinks, but surprisingly my guys nailed it with relatively little rehearsal. Those guys had some serious reading chops. It was awesome.
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I loved every bit of it . Originally Posted by jordanklemons
Composition,arrangement and your guitar sound stood out perfect with the horns.
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Just out!
ddtrio | Free Listening on SoundCloud
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Uao! Sounds good Originally Posted by pkirk
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I forgot this for solo classical guitar
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The probable shape of our Universe is the Poincarré's Dodécahédron
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That's a really nice tune, Jeff. Is that unplugged?
John
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This one's with its section of narrative (part of a larger piece).
The music behind the narrative alludes to another song in the work, whereas the song here is performed as an acoustic trio of trombone, double bass and rhythm guitar plus vocal:
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From an open-mic back a couple of years. Forgive the poor recording quality, please.
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Such bold vulnerability in this live performance. Love it. Originally Posted by Thumpalumpacus
(Reminded me of questions posed at the start of a talk I heard recently; "What are the needs of the day, and how - as artists - can we serve the world in its constantly evolving form?")
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Thanks. I played a jazz original in that set too, but being fingerstyle, the sound is ... yikes ...
Those are some good questions you pose. I guess if I had to answer, I'd simply say that service to the song is the best I manage for right now, and just hope it's the right song for the time.Last edited by Thumpalumpacus; 05-02-2017 at 07:18 PM.
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here is a fusion-trans oriented stuff I wrote with my friend Chris. Plus we were lucky to record that with some of the best musicians in Poland - check the drummer, bass and sax player
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Very nice tone! Originally Posted by Hyppolyte Bergamotte
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Inspired by Kurt Rosenwinkel's "Caipi" album .... only I did it 20 years before his attempt (and I did not think it was good, I was actually looking for someone to do it properly) ... the 1st song is the only one with lyrics not in English language ... the 4th song is the only one with guitar, not much of it though, just a short solo, but the "backing" is Bossa ... also in explanation I made a mistake and wrote "inducted", of course, it should be "induced" instead, but well, we can't all be Kurt ...
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Ragman1, your first post Potsdam is luverly, though it does start to "wander" somewhat at about 2'50" in. Great potential there for future arrangent involving horns ?? And the Lost Balloon is sort of all kind of poignant and magical........Prospect Park by Ric Troll just transported me away, very powerful stuff.
This is probably the most interesting subforum for me personally and it would be great that each composition got its own little thread. As it is, this is just way too much of a good thing IMHO.
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When I get round to making a decent recording of one of my tunes, it's def getting its own thread
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Well I try to check out any new threads here, and always comment on any one that grabs me in some way. By the way, I'm not going to even ask how you get that insane tone in "easy c minor blues final"
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Hello everyone,
It is a very good idea to share our compositions. Can't wait to listen to other memebers stuff.
Here is a composition I recorded last year. If anyone is interested I can give the sheet music with pleasure.
Take care.
S.
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Great! I checked your other stuff on You Tube. You have your certain style. Originally Posted by Spal
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I´ve heard this before . Its getting better and better Originally Posted by Hyppolyte Bergamotte
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Hey,
Check out my composition:
Looking forward to your comments
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Man there's so much great stuff on this thread. I'll go out on a limb and throw one of my own out there. It's a Bobby Timmons inspired hard Bop tune called Betcha Can't. I recorded it with a school jazz combo and two mics.
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Not bad at all. Very jazzy! If you did it at school you (all) must have been quite young. Hope you did shows :-)
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Thank you! Not that long ago actually! This tune/recording is from about a year ago. I only just graduated from my undergrad studies earlier this month. I'll be re-recording it as part of my first record along with the other tunes on my SoundCloud and more. Tell me what you think of this one. It's an older composition but newer recording. It's called Fifty-68! Originally Posted by ragman1
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It's good. Do you just want me to say it was great or give you something constructive? I've never liked people who say everything's wonderful to keep you sweet.
I think the tunes's good. Very good rhythmically and harmonically. I think the level of instrumental playing's excellent. Drums, sax, these guys know what they're doing. Not perfect but pretty damn good.
But you're the guitarist and you're here! Again good. I liked the slight overdrive. If I have one idea it's that your solo bordered a little on pentatonic and other set-ish forms rather than lines - but you've got your altered sounds off, which is good. The sax player - because they practice and learn that way - used more lines which, to be honest, is probably better jazz. But guitar is hard, let no one tell you otherwise. But it was still good and personally I think the band has a future...
Unless it was only school/undergrad stuff that'll be forgotten once you've left and get into the cruel, demanding world :-)
By the way, what are you studying? Music, presumably... or not?
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Thanks! No I'm not one who just wants to be told "good job". I don't learn anything from "good job", so I value actual critiques. I'm glad you like the tune! At its core, it's just a blues! With the changing time signatures, I probably did just stick to pentatonic stuff. Soloing in odd time signatures is a tricky enough thing even without all kinds of crazy scales and what not. Like I said earlier, I'll be re-recording it for a record I'm doing, so I'll be sure to practice exploring other sounds than pentatonic.
As for what you said about the band's future, unfortunately we all knew each other from school and we've all graduated and gone separate ways. As for myself, I studied jazz studies at University of Louisiana at Lafayette and took some composition lessons. In August, I'll be starting work on my Masters degree at the University of New Orleans studying with Steve Masakowski. There's way more jazz in New Orleans!
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Well, it all sounds brilliant. I envy you!
Yes, odd time sigs aren't easy. I tried 5/4 the other month and it tied me up in knots :-)
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copied this from my other post to here, trying to get the hang of this, no fun being old in a modern world
"Think it Through" Jazz WaltzOne i wrote, "Think it Through" guitar myself with horns, this was purely to send to my notators,
so is very accurate, but very dry not too far out playing but 100%, because they are so good they notate mistakes, i learnt this the hard way.
Form AABA 16 in/outro Jazz Waltz Jazz Fusion Rock vibe, no improv, just straight thro entire piece. It has been recorded with Piano, TS, Trp, Bass,Drums,Guitar with improvised solos.
Interesting hearing your own compositions, played for 1st time, say on Trombones Horns, etc there are tiny differences, since the guitar played fast mordent type figures & glisses which very difficult to notate, (easy to play)
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I often perform my own compositions, so I'm trying not to spam this thread too much but I thought you might enjoy this slightly 30 degree heatwave addled version of my tune Nibiru, which I posted a leadsheet for a few months back and a few forum members made recordings of.
It's a contrefact. Name that tune!
Personel:
Christian Miller - Guitar
Marcus Penrose - Double Bass
Adam Texiera - Drums
2 people in the audience sweating half to death and the windows wide open... That's a jazz gig!
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Well, I skimmed through the stuff above sorry for repetition or stating the obvious, but for 4 on 3 (which I confess is not a rhythm I have used) I would start with subdivision.
Divide the 3/4 bar into 16th notes:
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
Or
Ta ka di mi Ta ka di mi Ta ka di mi
Then group thusly, bold is the beat, not the accent:
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3
Or
Ta ki da Ta ki da Ta ki da Ta ki da
Then just count the 1's and leave out the others, or just say the 'Ta's
Pretty straightforward, no? Groupings of 3 against 4 is a pretty old jazz rhythm. Think It Don't Mean a Thing - doo wa doo wa doo wa.
I'm pretty sure I've seen 4 on 3 in a few charts - IIRC there's one in the Real Book?Last edited by christianm77; 06-20-2017 at 06:46 AM.
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