The Summer of Rhythm Guitar 2024

**Jwr** · 07-24-2024, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

I think you sound good!

Not sure what you mean by 8x4?

I do notice you often play a longer note on the 3rd quarter of each pair of bars...so the 7th out of 8 notes if that makes sense.

It doesn't sound bad, just wondering if intentional.

Absolutely intentional. It’s a F. Green thing.He will also frequently accent certain linear moves with longer strokes. The 2-bar phrasing seems to be one of the important points in supporting the bass and drums……(?)

**mr. beaumont** · 07-25-2024, 01:58 PM

Today's musings: being flexible and not dogmatic...

**AllanAllen** · 07-25-2024, 02:17 PM

This is why D- is popular.

**Christian Miller** · 07-25-2024, 02:29 PM

Saddest of all keys

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**AllanAllen** · 07-25-2024, 02:37 PM

Backing tracks are a great idea

**mr. beaumont** · 07-25-2024, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by AllanAllen

Backing tracks are a great idea

Cool! Nice balance on the 2 guitars' volume as well.

**AllanAllen** · 07-25-2024, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Cool! Nice balance on the 2 guitars' volume as well.

I let the iPhone figure it out.

**mr. beaumont** · 07-26-2024, 09:55 PM

Western Swing style on "Shame on You"

**Alter** · 07-27-2024, 10:14 AM

Such a difference between the clips just two months ago in the beginning of the thread! It's really inspiring me to practice this style, being so hip to listen to.

One thing that I believe comes out of it, besides the actual swing rhythm playing, is a much better awareness of chord inversions all over the neck, much like Peter Bernstein uses on his solo guitar album (which I've always considered amazing).

Kind of sacrilegious to play on a tele

but it's like one thousand degrees here in Greek summer and I have the feeling an archtop would melt!

**mr. beaumont** · 07-27-2024, 02:37 PM

Thank you! I can tell a difference too...in both sound and in how comfortable I've gotten, and how quickly I can flesh out a tune now, and be able to improvise my voicings a bit.

I had wondered if it would affect my "regular playing," and I'm happy to report I think it's only been positive.

**AllanAllen** · 07-27-2024, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

Thank you! I can tell a difference too...in both sound and in how comfortable I've gotten, and how quickly I can flesh out a tune now, and be able to improvise my voicings a bit.

I had wondered if it would affect my "regular playing," and I'm happy to report I think it's only been positive.

I noticed a few things at yesterday’s gig. First off for a blues turnaround I just went biii iii ii bi I7 I thought it would work and just did it and it worked. Which is pretty big for me, usually I have an idea and I can’t pull it off in real time. I think all the chord practice just made me comfortable enough to try a new turnaround with the confidence of “what’s the worst that’ll happen.” I added tension and hit the one on time, nobody seemed lost by what I did.

I think I hit a small “forget everything and just play” moment.

**Bop Head** · 07-27-2024, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by AllanAllen

I noticed a few things at yesterday’s gig. First off for a blues turnaround I just went biii iii ii bi I7 I thought it would work and just did it and it worked. Which is pretty big for me, usually I have an idea and I can’t pull it off in real time. I think all the chord practice just made me comfortable enough to try a new turnaround with the confidence of “what’s the worst that’ll happen.” I added tension and hit the one on time, nobody seemed lost by what I did.

I think I hit a small “forget everything and just play” moment.

Is the lower case spelling (meaning minor chords) of the changes intentional? And the last one before home is probably meant to be flat two and not flat one? Can you give an example for a C blues?

EDIT: By example I just mean written out chords names for certain measures.

**AllanAllen** · 07-28-2024, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Bop Head

Is the lower case spelling (meaning minor chords) of the changes intentional? And the last one before home is probably meant to be flat two and not flat one? Can you give an example for a C blues?

EDIT: By example I just mean written out chords names for certain measures.

You figured out my mess, but I’ll still write it out.

Standard turnaround
C7 Am7 Dm7 G7

Thing I tried
Ebm7 Dm7 Dbm7 C7

So, in further analysis, I hit home early, but nobody was hurt and nobody cared enough to mention it.

Which brings up another thought. It’s been 11 months of me playing C7 Am7 Dm7 G7 and nobody has said they were sick of that either.

I also think Ebm7 Dm7 B7 C7 could work, or Ebm7 Dm7 Am7 Abm7 B7. I’ll try them at the next gig and find out, if I remember.

**Bop Head** · 07-28-2024, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by AllanAllen

You figured out my mess, but I’ll still write it out.

Standard turnaround
C7 Am7 Dm7 G7

Thing I tried
Ebm7 Dm7 Dbm7 C7

So, in further analysis, I hit home early, but nobody was hurt and nobody cared enough to mention it.

Which brings up another thought. It’s been 11 months of me playing C7 Am7 Dm7 G7 and nobody has said they were sick of that either.

I also think Ebm7 Dm7 B7 C7 could work, or Ebm7 Dm7 Am7 Abm7 B7. I’ll try them at the next gig and find out, if I remember.

I see. Sounds a bit strange to me like you said to hit home early and to make the main dominant of the key resp. its tritone sub minor. But maybe I am just a square regarding turnarounds.

EDIT: Quite standard is of course Em7 Ebm7 Dm7 Db7.

**AllanAllen** · 07-28-2024, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Bop Head

I see. Sounds a bit strange to me like you said to hit home early and to make the main dominant of the key resp. its tritone sub minor. But maybe I am just a square regarding turnarounds.

EDIT: Quite standard is of course Em7 Ebm7 Dm7 Db7.

I could also be remembering wrong or it did sound bad. No matter, the true point was I had an idea and executed it. I don’t think it’s a good habit resolving early.

**Christian Miller** · 07-30-2024, 05:51 AM

Getting into Molly Reeve atm.

She’s using 6-4-3 style voicings here. Sounds great.

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**mr. beaumont** · 07-30-2024, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Christian Miller

Getting into Molly Reeve atm.

She’s using 6-4-3 style voicings here. Sounds great.

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That's the stuff right there.

**AllanAllen** · 07-30-2024, 10:08 AM

A little duo light that, chilling outside. That looks like a great gig.

**mr. beaumont** · 07-30-2024, 02:55 PM

End of July thoughts...on angles.

**AllanAllen** · 08-01-2024, 04:36 PM

Found another good album

**mr. beaumont** · 08-01-2024, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by AllanAllen

Found another good album

Yep, loving this.

**mr. beaumont** · 08-01-2024, 05:53 PM

Thoughts on "stretchy" chords.

Note: when I say close voicings here, I mean literally fingers closer together, not the definition of "close" voicings

**L50EF15** · 08-03-2024, 12:30 PM

This is actually how I practice much of the time, essentially improvising a tune.

First, on my L50:

Second, on my (just purchased last night) L75:

Third, on my G-200 flattop (which I think of as the flattop for archtop lovers):

Fourth, and straight from left field, on tenor banjo (Deering Goodtime 2):

**joe2758** · 08-05-2024, 08:45 AM

I haven't read much of this thread yet, but I assume some of you are working on the "Swing and Big Band Guitar" book. I figured out what the actual tunes were for most of them (e.g. Urban Sprawl is satin doll etc). but does anyone know what "Tune in G" is actually? That and "augmented times" are the two I am trying to figure out what their real song counterpart is. I figured out the other ones in case anyone doesn't know what tune they are actually playing.