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Hi there!
Just wanted to share some (just two for now) play alongs that I made. I'm working on my comping skills, so why not record the thing and post it so everybody can improvise over.
Here's a F Blues (Billies Bounce):
And Out Of Nowhere:
I'll try to do one every week, so let me know if you have any requests and of course I'm open to suggestions to improve.
Hope you'll enjoy!
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04-09-2024 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam C.
I also create my own play alongs using iReal Pro. I like to create intros and endings to simulate a real performance. I also like to play around with Tempos and styles to alleviate the boredom can set in with playing with backing tracks.
Let me know if you would like me to share them.
AA
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Originally Posted by Doublea A
Best,
Adam
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Originally Posted by Adam C.
My usual routine is to have the track loop 5 times:
Melody
Solo
Comping
Another solo
Melody
Sometimes I turn off the harmonic instrument to work on comping ideas
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Originally Posted by Adam C.
I should have listened to your recording before replying. My enthusiasm got the better of me.
I am doing something different.
I will send you a sample and you can let me know if it is appropriate for this thread.
AA
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Don't worry, but it's also not clear by the thumbnail on the videos, because yes, I put the screenshot of the rellevant iReal chord progressions but it's just to have the reference of the harmony.
Otherwise let's say that it's heavily inspired by the backing tracks that MrSunnyBass does on YouTube but in a guitar version.
Of course, please do send me a sample, maybe it's going to be even a better idea!
Best,
Adam
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Originally Posted by Adam C.
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Days Of Wine And Roses:
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got rid of the real track piano on band in box .. replaced with Oliver Gannon comping....Real track 95...i feel better now....whats with the Hal Leonard play alongs..no melody sheet...bring your own...
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Hey Adam... cool and great ideas.
Some ideas to help,
Have a more organized plan for how your going to approach the tune...
Start with basic plan of how your going to work with the Form, the space or sections within the Form
This usually involves... the big picture and then all the smaller parts of the picture reflecting and supporting what you want the big picture to be.
Example... break tune into three 4 bar sections.
Have a rhythmic pattern implied for the 1st 4 bars.
Repeat that rhythmic pattern for 2nd 4 bars but with a variation on bar 8 to set up the last 4 bars which expands the rhythmic pattern of the two previous patterns and implies a Repeat of Form.
Bass lines on guitar generally suck... they are a tool or like an effect.... unless your actually playing bass. Usually only use to reinforce or imply the harmony and Rhythmic pattern and feel.
And... what you might want to start working on is Chord Patterns with Lead Lines that imply and expand single chords. These are another tool that jazz players use to develop relationships with... a Reference. Reference can be a single chord, a section of a tune, as in the 1st 4 bars of Billies etc...
Chord patterns imply a harmonic Target or chord.... but with a implied harmonic analysis that reflects the single chord in a context, the tune.
Example in a blues in "F" like Billie's... 1st two bars. Simple implied F13 implied II-V with sub approach to Bb13 and it's Diatonic and Functional sub.... D-7b5 (with chromatic approach chord C#-7b5) Also the lead line uses Blue Notes
X 6 7 7 6 X
X 8 7 8 8 8
X 8 7 8 8 10
7 X 7 8 9 X
6 X 6 7 8 X
X 4 5 4 5 X
X 5 6 5 6 X
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Originally Posted by Reg
I have to agree with you about the organisation of the whole thing, I’m still struggling to achieve a whole picture with every part that makes sense with the other.
I’ll try in the next one braking the tune into sections. Especially using lead lines and approach chords, I didn’t even think about it!
Although I have to say, that I kinda like some sort of “bass lines” on guitra or minimalistic things in comping, to leave the soloist space to put more harmonic stuff.
Thanks again, helps me a lot to improove comping!
Best, Adam
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Solar:
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Your sound is fantastic.
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Originally Posted by mr quick
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Ok, I already broke my weekly promise…
Summertime:
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Hi Adam C,
yes, there is a shortage of human play-along material so your idea is filling a niche.
I also often make my own tracks with a looper, but it is nice to play along with someone else who has a different concept.
I wasn't sure if you were looking for a response to your videos or just posting them as practice material.
Here is a split-screen video of us playing (virtually) together!
If for any reason you don't want this sort of video posted, I will remove it.
Thanks for the videos.
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Originally Posted by Question
Beautiful, that's exactly the type of response the videos are intended for!
Also any criticism about my comping is more than welcome. I'm still working on it to find different ways to comp and trying to be comfortable to play over.
And man, beautiful playing. Some tasteful lines played there and I liked the bends a lot!
Hope we'll play (virtually) together more.
Best, Adam
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Originally Posted by Doublea A
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Hi Adam C,
thanks, I was unsure if you welcomed a video response since you never clearly stated that; now we know!
Regarding the comping; I don't rely on you (or any accompaniment) or just sort of "hang some notes" on the chords; so for me it is nice to just have sparse harmonic colors played in time as you are doing so well.
I can define the harmony and time in my lines, but this is more stimulating since I can use your harmonic and rhythmic colors to react to in real time.
For an improviser or singer who relies heavily on the comping, it would probably be easier for them to hear beat one played more often. (specifically in a duo setting and not in a band where you definitely don't want to always play on beat one)
Since I am also a bass player, I am quite used to hearing the harmony in my head without actually playing the complete chord, so your comping style is fine for me, but more just a matter of in what context and with what level of player it is intended for.
Thanks.Last edited by Question; 05-12-2024 at 08:01 AM.
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Originally Posted by Question
Thank you very much! I noticed, when improvising, that I do like the opened harmonic/rhythmic thing too. Giving you some inputs to respond in the story that you're telling, with the minimum information about the harmony and rhythm.
I do agree about the singers and musicians that depend on that. Also style wise, depends on the taste.
Thanks again!
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Adam, it is a great thing. You are doing a niche thing that can never be filled fully.
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Originally Posted by emanresu
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Autumn Leaves!
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I heard a bit of very smooth delay or somehting. Bumping on the background.. was it in the current bpm? Couldn't figure out.
But got the idea that this soft delay would help make it easier for less experienced players to be on track when you want to go less busy at times.
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Originally Posted by emanresu
Oh, man! That’s a great idea! I will incorporate it in the next play along.
Thanks a lot for that!
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