The tweaked baroque harmony of Kurt Rosenwinkel

[Christian Miller]

Notes for a video based around the Kurt composition Under it All - at least the A section



I've always liked this tune, This version is lush.

I notice Kurt often favours stepwise basslines. This is a complete descending scale in a way which is unusual in baroque music but relates to the 'toy music' of the Rule of the Octave, a concept in C18 music theory (many have encountered it via Rameau), and of course the various scales of chords many of us work on as improvisers.

I find the idea of a modern RO quite fun. I can also think of old school jazz RO's, Irish folk RO's, rock RO's etc...

the B section is interesting in a different way - maybe later :-)

[Christian Miller]

Well I guess I won’t be putting this out on my main channel haha *tumbleweed*


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[Liarspoker]

Cool tune to apply this too. Lots of 10ths, once again. Love this stuff for
two and three part improv although it sounds much more baroque than jazz ( not that I mind ).

[enalnitram]

Rosenwinkel is great and I love him. However, this video's performances has a "tentativeness" and a lack of togetherness...due to the way it was put together. I want to enjoy it, but can't. It feels like a paste-together job, because it was. I tried doing things like this during the pandemic and deleted all that I could, so that they wouldn't persist in normal times. To me, jazz is about interplay in the moment.

I get that you're discussing the theory. Is there a better recording? I ask, not to attack you, but because I would like to hear it.

[Christian Miller]

Rosenwinkel is great and I love him. However, this video's performances has a "tentativeness" and a lack of togetherness...due to the way it was put together. I want to enjoy it, but can't. It feels like a paste-together job, because it was. I tried doing things like this during the pandemic and deleted all that I could, so that they wouldn't persist in normal times. To me, jazz is about interplay in the moment.

I get that you're discussing the theory. Is there a better recording? I ask, not to attack you, but because I would like to hear it.

tough crowd.

The original recording is on Star of Jupiter. I’m not sure if there’s any other versions.

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[Christian Miller]

Cool tune to apply this too. Lots of 10ths, once again. Love this stuff for
two and three part improv although it sounds much more baroque than jazz ( not that I mind ).

Basically 10ths and 13ths…. Mix em up

GUITAR TIPS (Adam Levy): "Simple" COUNTERPOINT? Let's BREAK It DOWN! - YouTube


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[rpjazzguitar]

What little I've listened to of Rosenwinkle has been very impressivfe.

How does he get that tone?

[Christian Miller]

What little I've listened to of Rosenwinkle has been very impressivfe.

How does he get that tone?

Ha thereby hangs a tale


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[pauln]

Some bits of the first minute and a half of orchestra music may sound familiar to those who listened to McLaughlin's Apocalypse back in the day (London Symphony Orchestra, Michael Tilson Thomas, conducting).