Honeysuckle Rose Chord suggestions please

[garybaldy]

In bars 3 and 4 of the A section I feel I can hear in my head quite a lot of harmonic movement.
I can't fathom it out though. There's something going on in the Dick McDonough solo version.
Can anyone suggest some interesting chords/ chord voicings on each beat where I have the ?s. TIA
Gm7/C7/ Gm7/C7/ Gm7/?? ???? F/ etc

[Christian Miller]

I usually play a little 4’n’ back

F6 F7/A Bb Bo7 F then Am7b5 D7
or
F6 F7/Eb Bb/D Bbm/Db F/C D7

either way is cool

[Christian Miller]

Dunno what Dick does. Will listen in later

[garybaldy]

I usually play a little 4’n’ back

F6 F7/A Bb Bo7 F then Am7b5 D7
or
F6 F7/Eb Bb/D Bbm/Db F/C D7

either way is cool

Thanks but isn't what you've suggested from bar 5? Cheers

[Christian Miller]

Oh sorry, yes, didn't read the OP properly. Sorry!

[ragman1]

This might throw some light on it. There's another vid of another player playing exactly the same thing. I think they're both reading it from the same transcript, so there is a transcript out there. You can slow it down even further on YT, of course.

[ragman1]

Here's one site which names a book. Scroll down to see it.

Transcriptions – Jazz Guitar Duets



There appear to be two versions of the book. But personally I'd get it off the video!

The Great Jazz Guitarists By Ivor Mairants | Used | 9781860742484 | World of Books

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Jazz-.../dp/1860742440

[ragman1]

Garybaldy, putting likes on all this doesn't say much! What exactly are you looking for?

[garybaldy]

Garybaldy, putting likes on all this doesn't say much! What exactly are you looking for?

Thank you for your input. When I have a moment I shall look into your suggestions , which look to be on the right lines.
I hope to find that transcription and in the meantime analyse the video that you kindly posted.
Thanks again.

[ragman1]

I wasn't fishing for thanks but I thought I got a sort of 'yes, but...' feeling! Good luck with it anyway.

[garybaldy]

Just found this. Possibly a Eureka moment!
honeysuckle-rose.pdf (wordpress.com)

[ragman1]

Ah! Well done, I missed it! I suppose you check it out with the recording now... Hope for the best

[garybaldy]

Ah! Well done, I missed it! I suppose you check it out with the recording now... Hope for the best

Also found this!

It'll keep me quiet for a while

[ragman1]

Good god. Definitely different!

[Sam Sherry]

Most bebop classics are contrafacts which add passing chords to older tunes, but not here:

[ragman1]

The pdf is definitely DM's recording. Saved :-)

[PMB]

Here's my transcription of Dick McDonough's take on Honeysuckle Rose. It was published years ago by the defunct magazine, Just Jazz Guitar.

Incidentally, this recording is possibly the first recorded instance of solo jazz guitar (if you discount Eddie Lang's more straight ahead pop and classical music arrangements).

[ragman1]

Bravo! Can't do better than that. Search over

[garybaldy]

Here's my transcription of Dick McDonough's take on Honeysuckle Rose. It was published years ago by the now defunct magazine, Just Jazz Guitar.

Incidentally, this recording is possibly the first recorded instance of solo jazz guitar (if you discount Eddie Lang's more straight ahead pop and classical music arrangements).

Excellent post thank you.

[ragman1]

Gary -

You realise we're all expecting a dramatic solo from you now? :-)

[garybaldy]

Gary -

You realise we're all expecting a dramatic solo from you now? :-)

Please be very patient!

[ragman1]

[garybaldy]

Yeah, that's me!!

[PMB]

Hey garybaldy,

I was just messing around with the A section and came up with this:

Gm7 / C7 / | Gm7 / C7 / | Gm7 / F#m7 B7 | Bbmaj7 Bb6 Em7 Ebmaj7 | Dm7 / G7 / | Gm7 / Bb/C / |
1._______________________ 2.______________________
F6 / Bb7 / | Am7 / Ab7 / :|| F6 / Gm7 / | Abo7 / F/A A7 ||

The move to relative minor in bar 5 is pretty cool and keeps things moving against the repetitive nature of the melody. Is that the kind of thing you had in mind?

A similar approach could be transferred to the bridge (starting out from the relative minor):

Dm7 / G7 / | C#-7 F#7 F7 B7 | Bb7 / Cm7 / | C#o7 / Bb7/D / |
Em7 / A7 / | Ebm7 Ab7 G7 Db7 | C7 / Dm7 / | Ebo7 / C7/E / ||

[Christian Miller]

Here's my transcription of Dick McDonough's take on Honeysuckle Rose. It was published years ago by the defunct magazine, Just Jazz Guitar.

Incidentally, this recording is possibly the first recorded instance of solo jazz guitar (if you discount Eddie Lang's more straight ahead pop and classical music arrangements).

Nice! I always admired that recording but never transcribed it. I didn't realise it was the first solo jazz guitar arrangement.