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    New vid

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    Why?


    I mean, why is this not a 4 (or more) part fugue of at least 20 minutes played on an appropriate church organ?

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    “Appropriate church organ”?
    By definition could an organ in a church be inappropriate?
    Actually now that I think about it…

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    Why?


    I mean, why is this not a 4 (or more) part fugue of at least 20 minutes played on an appropriate church organ?
    Because I don’t play the organ?

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    Which I think has to be a good thing, because as bad as I am now imagine how much worse I’d be if I could do the feet

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    You can do the feet…you use the spaces between sharp pedals with your toe to navigate and then use your heel to land on the note you’re hoping for)))

    (Performance major, classical organ here. Entitles you to be underpaid, be strangled between the clergy, worship committees and the congregation. If the donor of the current organ is still around, your stop selection (sound timbres) will be theirs not yours, in spite of your intense study of 17th century organ registration. And lets not forget: ‘the organist is too loud, soft, fast, slow’.
    Tough life, but no drunks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    If the donor of the current organ is still around
    Rarely the case for what I meant with appropriate organs back here in Europe (or else in a reliquary in which case they'd also not bother you )

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    Have you made a vid of how the whole thing sounds? I would say a fellow guitarist can visually suss out most of the fingerings you're using (¿no?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzkritter
    “Appropriate church organ”?
    By definition could an organ in a church be inappropriate?
    Actually now that I think about it…
    Guitars, sports cars, gun collections, guitar collections... are these compensation for organ envy?
    What WAS Bach trying to prove by having 21(?) children?
    Bach had all those children because his organ had no stops.

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    Organists envy organs, of course. Kind of like GAS. But some of us prefer one kind of organ, and some prefer, well, never mind.

    Lets see… guitars 7 checks. Sports car, check. Gun, my brother borrowed and never returned, so no check. And I have at least one organ. But the movers collapsed the rolling cover and it’s still jammed half way in the up position.

    Bach had 21 children: His contracts at the Tomaskirche in Leipzig always included many casks of beer. in fact usually the first item on the list.

    Darn he must have been a heck of a character.

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    I think Bach was a mad lad

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    Well I dont know if the organ people were appreciative of the post, but I was. Beautiful sounds and shapes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0zoro
    Well I dont know if the organ people were appreciative of the post, but I was. Beautiful sounds and shapes!
    thank you!

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    Yes. This organist/guitarist definitely liked Christian’s work! jk

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    I would be a bit kinder if you took down the pic of Ted and put yourself there..You make it look as if we're going to watch TG play it, not you..

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    Thanks - really enjoyed the video and will shamelessly steal from it

    been messing around improving on the figured bass to the c# minor prelude from book I of the WTC and its full of those 4/2 to 6/5 chains

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0zoro
    Well I dont know if the organ people were appreciative of the post
    $$

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkInLA
    I would be a bit kinder if you took down the pic of Ted and put yourself there..You make it look as if we're going to watch TG play it, not you..
    That was not my intention. But I can see how you might be confused if you don’t know my channel. The title ‘how to’ implies a tutorial although perhaps you thought that tutorial might have been delivered by the man himself

    there are some videos with him discussing this stuff elsewhere on YT which I could link to if you are unaware of them; but they are more like discussions than focussed masterclasses or tutorials per se.

    Adding the picture was a way of paying tribute - I haven’t noticed any effect on the performance of videos to add pictures like this although some people might think it does and attribute a more cynical motive (which I could understand).

    But in my defence I don’t think referencing the great Ted in a video qualifies as click bait exactly, (maybe if I put Steve Vai or John Mayer on there.) If anything I’d hope it would encourage some of my viewers to check him out if they haven’t already. There’s a link in the video.

    We’re you a student of Teds btw? I know there’s a few knocking around here. I’m curious as to how many Ted Greene students learned how to play the baroque style stuff he did so masterfully.
    Last edited by Christian Miller; 04-22-2022 at 03:36 AM.

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    admittedly i was hoping for a ted greene vid as well.

    ted greene on autumn leaves:

    https://vhs.link/8T73vt

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    Quote Originally Posted by djg
    admittedly i was hoping for a ted greene vid as well.

    ted greene on autumn leaves:

    https://vhs.link/8T73vt
    God rot you, Holger :-)

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    To be in the style of Bach it should have at least 2 modulations in Dominant key then Subdominant key and then back to Tonic)


    I appreciate your insight in the texture and voicing possibilities though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Miller
    Because I don’t play the organ?
    You could at least drop to accurate historical pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah
    You could at least drop to accurate historical pitch
    Like Jimi you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah
    To be in the style of Bach it should have at least 2 modulations in Dominant key then Subdominant key and then back to Tonic)


    I appreciate your insight in the texture and voicing possibilities though
    but AL does modulate to the relative major and back - just as Bach would do in a minor key piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah
    To be in the style of Bach it should have at least 2 modulations in Dominant key then Subdominant key and then back to Tonic)
    Fair dos.

    from my reading what’s quite interesting is it is not at all clear whether 18th century composers understood these as separate keys, which kind of reinforces your point. They are just natural mutations of the basic key (also relative minor of course.) But to discuss that further would require descent into the world of hexachordal solfege and tbh I’m not sure if I really quite understand that. Mi and Fa, fa and mi. As Bach said.

    I appreciate your insight in the texture and voicing possibilities though
    thanks. It’s all a bit complicated and long winded explaining 2 to 6 suspension chains in jazz language but I’m hoping to make it accessible.

    It’s also necessary to use theoretical roots to use this stuff with jazz standards.