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It seems like the activity has tailed off on Tenderly, so I'm taking the liberty of firing up the next tune, the Shadow of Your Smile.
Here's the prime directive from PaulW10:
Hello All,
Welcome to the Solo Guitar Arranging Group! This is song thread #3, Tenderly, which was one of the finalists in a poll by the group.
Players of all levels and abilities are welcome to participate here. Please join us!
The idea is to start a different song thread periodically and encourage everyone to post a video or recording of how they would play/arrange that particular tune for solo guitar (i.e. with no other accompaniment).
Group Guidelines
Here are general guidelines for the group.
1. All levels of players are strongly encouraged to participate, from beginners on up. We hope the group may even be rewarded occasionally, if not often, with contributions by seasoned pros and prominent guitarists. However, no matter your skill level you are strongly encouraged to join in. If you are open to hearing constructive comments and suggestions from the group, indicate #c&cwelcome in the title of your post.
2. The arrangement can be easy and simple, or elaborate and complex, or simply playing it on the fly. It’s all about each person’s own interpretation and approach.
3. After posting the arrangement, each person is encouraged to also post (in a video, on a recording or in writing) their approach to the song, or to specific parts of the song. This explanatory content can be in as much or as little detail as desired (or none at all). If the person is seeking specific help from the group this is a good place to ask for it.
4. Written notations of the arrangement are certainly not expected. Each person can decide how to handle any such requests from the group.
5. Future song selections and frequency will be made based on suggestions received and what appears to be a consensus. I’ll try and post a lead sheet for each song selection if that would be helpful. Of course, people can still play the song in any key (or keys) they choose.
6. Encouragement to each person for their contributions are encouraged. Unless the performer indicates a willingness to hear criticisms (see #1 above), participants should not offer criticisms of individual performances. Advice should only be offered if the person specifically asks for it. Even then resist criticizing anything to do with the interpretation or "artsy" side of the performance and comment on techniques and tips instead (for example playing a particular passage or suggesting chord embellishments, etc.)
7. Participation in group discussions is encouraged for all, even if a person does not want to personally post their own arrangements at present for whatever reason.
Goals of Group
1. To encourage each other to become better solo guitar players and to share knowledge and skills in a friendly and helpful setting. If we individually work up an arrangement and then bring it to the group, it will be invaluable to see how people handled the song or specific parts of the song. We will all enhance our guitar skills and vocabulary. New ideas or approaches would even be useful to the most advanced players.
2. To increase our repertoire of solo guitar songs.
3. To build confidence in playing for others, sharing our skills and in recording ourselves.
Since there is a new thread for each song, there is no time pressure to keep up with the group. People can post to each song thread when they’re ready to.
Tunes so far: The Days of Wine and Roses, Here's That Rainy Day, Tenderly. There are separate thread for those. If you want to post a video or recording of those songs, it’s never too late. Please do so in those threads and help keep them going as well!
I've attached an iRealPro printout of the changes if that would be helpful.
We hope everyone will join in and participate however you choose.
Cheers,
John
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04-08-2018 10:16 PM
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... And I happen to have gotten a bit of a head start on Shadow of Your Smile, so here goes. In terms of concept, I'm mainly focused on keeping a sense of motion (to a fault in this case, as I speed up quite a bit). The little contrapuntal phrase that I start with is lifted from a Barney Kessell live video I came across on youtube. The rest of the first half of the head is an arrangement I came up with. The second half is a little less arranged. I've been practicing the tune quite a bit (hadn't played it much in past), and messing around with different somewhat fungible harmonizations of the melody and fills, and this is made up of a few of those, plus some bits of note ornamentation of the fly. The first half of the second chorus is improvised, with no real plan for what I would do. The last half is more or less the same as in the head, with an improvised ending.
There's been a fair amount of pronouncements pro and con Strats (mainly con, as usual), and I felt like a little equal opportunity was in order so that was part of the inspiration here. That, and once again I was playing at night and didn't want to bother anybody, so a solidbody was called for, and it's the only one's I've got. I recorded into Garageband while video-ing myself with my MacBook's built in webcam and monitoring with earbuds to keep the noise down. This is actually a real PITA. I don't do well wrangling two bits of software at the same time, and it took me a ridiculous amount of time to get a clean(ish) take and get it all sync'd up into a video. Oh well. I may try another, but let's hear some of yours first.
Cheers,
John
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I have love and played this tune for many years. It was about the 3rd jazz tune I tried to learn when I started out 25 or so years ago playing jazz. I posted a clip of SOYS a couple years ago, and thought I'd post it here while I'm working on refreshing my take on the song. Just a basic CM finger style take. The guitar is the Aria Pro II PE180.
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Here's the lead sheet from 557 Jazz Standards PDF
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I'll be watching this one closely as I really like this tune.
All I can do with it personally is fumble though an arrangement that I purchased from a website, so it seems odd to post that here, but I will be watching all the submissions and trying my best to steal as many ideas as possible.
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Originally Posted by wengr
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by wengr
You won't find a more forgiving audience and you'll learn from it.
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Originally Posted by John A.
And the strat tone sounded great too. I can't understand someone coming up with a con about a strat? Really? I love the sound of strats. However, you could be like Lawson in his last Tenderly post and use some whammy bar. I like whammy bars! (I'm not kidding I really do).
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what's at least as beneficial to me, if not more so than the encouragement and constructive criticism, is having this sort of deadline and some kind of "skin in the game."
Meaning I know I'm going to post something in a month and I want to do the best I can do. I don't want to post a video that sucks, but I don't want to be practicing a tune for 3 months before I can play it.
It changes how I practice for the better. It also ensures I am applying my ideas to tunes and not like, " I'll practice this sequence and use it some time."
Anyway, it's a really great thing ESPECIALLY for any of us who don't perform regularly or at all
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Originally Posted by PaulW10
Re: improv, the only way to do it is to do it. Try to think in terms of "melody on the top two strings; harmony below that." Also, you can get a ton of mileage out of fourths and out of just wiggling your finger around on the top voice of a chord.
John
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
John
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by joe2758
John
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Originally Posted by PaulW10
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That first C# on smile ....
Is new sound to me
It's the natural 5 of the F#-7 chord right ?
I'm so used to a F#-7b5 there !
with its b5 the C note
I mean it is lovely
But it's quite unusual isn't it ?
Anyone else ?
or Is it just me
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It was the first thing I noticed, Pingu. I play Bb dim there-- don't like the -7
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just had a thought
Lullaby of Birdland (in Em) is similar in that harmony ?
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Originally Posted by pingu
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Originally Posted by joe2758
EDIT: What I'm saying here about Amaj really doesn't make sense on second look. It never is in Amaj, but the A7 maybe implies it's not quite in E minor either. I think the best of way of looking at it is that the harmony and melody are not fully diatonic to any of the tune's keys of the moment. There be chromaticism.
JohnLast edited by John A.; 04-12-2018 at 11:52 AM.
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I wasn’t sure i’d have time to come up with something post worthy, but I’ll start working now. If I don’t I’ll just post something showing the Bb dim.
I was thinking B7/dim scale for first two chords
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Originally Posted by John A.
Might help to realize this is not a true minor key song. In G Major, C# gives a nice #11 sort of sound.
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it’s not that crazy to play Bb dim it has two common tones woth F#min. It’s just a personal taste thing, I like sharper/meaner harmonies. The F# min is more cool/pretty. Allgood.
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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Originally Posted by joe2758
* Or Em/M7 (0x100x) if you're feeling adventurous
McCoy Tyner style Pentatonic sequence with 5ths,...
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