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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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07-08-2024 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AllanAllen
When playing solo guitar, Kessel normally used barre chords in a piano like way, e.g., in the first few measures of Alfie, he'll play and hold a barre chord for an entire measure while playing melodies above it, the lush sustained sound of the barre chord simulates a string orchestra backing a soloist. But he would not harmonize single melody notes with 6 string barre chords as in this Arnold arrangement.
This is not solo guitar but it illustrates Peter's point (nice intro, I may have to steal it)
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Originally Posted by AllanAllen
Check out his intro to Ella here:
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
I'm not sure much of anyone uses the more miserable of those drop 3 inversions, but still ... even that Mickey Baker book has chords I still think are too hard for me to use on the regular.
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
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Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
You watch clips of Joe Pass, Kenny Burrell, and Barney Kessel, it looks like they use bar chords all the time.
But when you watch their hands, you don't see an F7 as 5x354x kinda grip, it'll be the E bar or C shape. Just something I noticed watching those three guys hands
Joe once wrote me in a letter that no note or chord is "hard."
He's pretty up front about "only playing the easy stuff."
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You gotta be careful to to know when Joe Pass is pulling your leg. He said he only plays the easy stuff... but he also had a monster technique that made everything look effortless. I think the point he was making was that you can almost always find the note or phrase you need without stretching too far; master basic grips and play in position. Joe was an incredible position player. You watch him and he seldom stretches, jumps, or seems to strain for a note. He's always where he needs to be.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
Originally Posted by pamosmusic
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I agree with all these clarification counterpoints.
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Hey guys. Great to see the thread have some traction. I'm back in the world of wi-fi so will make up a new thread later today
Maybe The Nearness of You as requested by alpop?
Edit. I'll read all the posts that I missed when I have some more time too.
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I decided to try this tune with a backing track, and just cranked up iRealPro and muted the keyboards. I also wanted to play the L5ces on this one, and the amp is a Fender Tone Master Twin Reverb, using the direct line to record.
I actually FORGOT A CHORD one one measure, it's obvious... one more reason I have a day-job!
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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Originally Posted by alpop
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
You absolutely deserve that guitar by working on your music in the spare time allowed to you by having a career outside of music.
Players at all levels who love music deserve the best instrument they can get their hands on.
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Originally Posted by alpop
BTW: is anyone else reminded of "Cry Me A River" when playin this tune? For some reason phrases of that one keep coming to mind.
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Originally Posted by alpop
Re: Lawson's comment that this tune reminds him of "Cry Me a River," parts of it reminded me of Coltrane's "Naima." In fact the Naima ending would sound good with it - it's an ascending series of notes harmonized by alternating major chords.
Applied to this tune in F Major it would be:
Notes/Chords: G (FM9, final chord of this tune) - A (BbM7) - B (FM7#11) - C (BbM9) - D (F6/9) - E (BbM7#11) - G (FM9) - with maybe the open A string used as a pedal point - basically Sunny takes an antidepressant.
P.S. - I nixed the idea of using this ending, it just sounds contrived.Last edited by Mick-7; 07-11-2024 at 12:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by Mick-7
I was able to get my L5ces way below market because there was some finish bleed around the binding that someone tried to buff out and buffed pretty hard before they realized the bleed was under the clear-coat. So it isn't a collector, not perfect. It also has a lot of finish checking, but from 6 feet away nobody notices, and it plays and sounds like an L5ces! Except I paid a Used Heritage price for it.
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It's not that I totally dislike my guitars, it's just that each one has at least one thing I dislike about it, so I'd like to find guitar that suits me well. This will require that I play a lot of different guitars, which is a project now-a-days with all the music stores moving online.
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