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    Changing the break angle of the strings over the bridge affects multiple things, mostly feel, but also tone to some extent. The break angle is set, then the guitar is tuned, so no real effect on pitch. I don't think anyone starts adjusting the tailpiece in the middle of a song.

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    Sky, the bigger screws aren't a big deal. If you decide to remove the button and use the original screw, a tiny dab of carpenter's glue in the hole and the end (or maybe both ends) of a toothpick will repair it fine, with no really visible change. Stripped holes are repaired that way every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    The break angle is set, then the guitar is tuned, so no real effect on pitch.
    If you do it in that order, yes

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    It never occurred to me to do it in any other order.

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    Maybe I wouldn't either if I didn't have my prior experience with fine-tuners mounted on the tailpiece!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJVB
    I guess that must have an effect on pitch (too) ... but what's the main effect supposed to be?
    A more acute breakover angle tends to give the string a "tighter" feel, something that translates to a snappier attack. A more obtuse angle will create a softer feel. You can kind of feel this with the height adjustment on a stop tailpiece, put it higher, it feels looser. Ibanez has an adjustment that attempts this on their George Benson but I don't feel a thing from that tailpiece in my experience.
    It's not going to be much use as a fine tuner; way too hard to turn, not finely adjustable and SO much easier with a 14:1 set of headstock tuners (unless we're talking Steinberger of course).
    The length of the lever arm, the very slight difference of the breakover from that far back...if there's a difference, it's not on my radar. I feel a much greater difference choosing a wood tailpiece over metal. I feel and like that difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    Changing the break angle of the strings over the bridge affects multiple things, mostly feel, but also tone to some extent. The break angle is set, then the guitar is tuned, so no real effect on pitch. I don't think anyone starts adjusting the tailpiece in the middle of a song.
    Jimi Hendrix comes to mind. Ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy blue note
    It's not going to be much use as a fine tuner; way too hard to turn, not finely adjustable and SO much easier with a 14:1 set of headstock tuners
    Yes, that I can imagine. X:1 ratio tuning pegs exist for violin and cello nowadays but I never used them so I cannot say if they really replace tailpiece mounted fine tuners. I do know that the X:1 ratio tuners on my archtop give a real kind of lag causing me to overshoot when tuning from below. Maybe their ratio isn't big enough but AFAIK the fine tuners I've used had a much more direct effect. Don't really know why; the mechanical situation should be comparable except for the sharper break angle over the saddle.