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  1. #201

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    Incoming:

    Trenier guitars-4573becb-708d-4440-8915-74ee872f9cd4-jpegTrenier guitars-3dcdd310-9ccb-49ed-88de-6c8b041ee007-jpegTrenier guitars-115eddcb-65a4-497a-b21d-baa866a716d0-jpegTrenier guitars-735b7a74-a8d0-4f5f-8456-6a9253fe3d86-jpegTrenier guitars-68a9045c-b6b8-47d0-993c-ef0b84d8b382-jpegTrenier guitars-a118495f-5bc6-4069-9e97-665f98a7dd3b-jpegTrenier guitars-ac3e43e3-065d-4788-b251-e22ca6276804-jpeg

    I’ll report back when I receive it.

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  3. #202

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    Incoming:

    Trenier guitars-4573becb-708d-4440-8915-74ee872f9cd4-jpegTrenier guitars-3dcdd310-9ccb-49ed-88de-6c8b041ee007-jpegTrenier guitars-115eddcb-65a4-497a-b21d-baa866a716d0-jpegTrenier guitars-735b7a74-a8d0-4f5f-8456-6a9253fe3d86-jpegTrenier guitars-68a9045c-b6b8-47d0-993c-ef0b84d8b382-jpegTrenier guitars-a118495f-5bc6-4069-9e97-665f98a7dd3b-jpegTrenier guitars-ac3e43e3-065d-4788-b251-e22ca6276804-jpeg

    I’ll report back when I receive it.
    Nice! That one caught my eye, too. Let us know what you think when you get it.

  4. #203

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    You're a lucky man !

  5. #204

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    I was wondering who bought it, glad it was someone on the forum!

  6. #205

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSanta
    I was wondering who bought it, glad it was someone on the forum!
    Agreed! That site has been having a good number of Treniers pop up recently, usually older ones. Its where I got mine a few months back

  7. #206

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    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.

  8. #207

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    Awesome, Mark! Looking forward to your NGD. I wonder how the Model E compares to the Jazz Special? Obviously the Model E is a carved top vs. the laminate of the Jazz Special. Congratulations!

  9. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    No surprise by your reaction....its a Trenier - and a fully carved instrument that would cost you double what you paid if ordering it new today. I knew that guitar wouldn't last long.

    Smart buy !!

    .

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  10. #209

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    MARK,

    Congratulations! Your excitement is infectious! (I’m expecting an instrument from Trenier soon.)

    AKA

  11. #210

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    This is kind of cool. No label, just Bryant’s signature with the serial number stamped inside:

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    Just like Jim D'Aquisto numbered and signed his builds.

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    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.

  14. #213

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.
    I definitely removed that as well. It is a little much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.
    He puts his own labels in guitars he sells? That's pretty weird/annoying, but then he is Mr. Marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon
    He puts his own labels in guitars he sells? That's pretty weird/annoying, but then he is Mr. Marketing.
    yeah at least in my experience. It struck me as a little odd, but came out no problem with a pair of tweezers

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon View Post
    He puts his own labels in guitars he sells? That's pretty weird/annoying, but then he is Mr. Marketing.
    I've seen many , MANY vintage guitars with labels (inside the body, on the back of the headstock, sometimes fastened with screws...) of the store that originally sold them and I always thought that it's part of the instrument's history. Whether it's Joe Vinikow (a very busy and successful seller, having survived in the buisiness for a long time) or your mom+pop store in Boise/Idaho makes no difference really, don't you think ? In most better violins etc. you'll find stickers of the repairmen + sometimes the owners who have handled the instrument over the (sometimes) centuries and nobody would think of removing them...

  18. #217
    I agree with Mark - Joe Vinikow/ Archtop.com ( in particular) is not a name I would want inside my guitar. For me as a buyer, seeing a JV label inside a guitar would lead to some skepticism. If is were a Larry Wexer Label - no problem- that would mean credibility/ transparency.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gitman View Post
    I've seen many , MANY vintage guitars with labels (inside the body, on the back of the headstock, sometimes fastened with screws...) of the store that originally sold them and I always thought that it's part of the instrument's history. Whether it's Joe Vinikow (a very busy and successful seller, having survived in the buisiness for a long time) or your mom+pop store in Boise/Idaho makes no difference really, don't you think ? In most better violins etc. you'll find stickers of the repairmen + sometimes the owners who have handled the instrument over the (sometimes) centuries and nobody would think of removing them...
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    I see your point and even agree to some extent. But, in this case I feel like it was detracting from the simple elegance of having Bryant’s signature inside. Joe’s label came out easily.

  20. #219

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    Quote Originally Posted by QAman View Post
    I agree with Mark - Joe Vinikow/ Archtop.com ( in particular) is not a name I would want inside my guitar. For me as a buyer, seeing a JV label inside a guitar would lead to some skepticism. If is were a Larry Wexer Label - no problem- that would mean credibility/ transparency.


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    From my internet search, it appears this guitar has passed through Larry Wexer’s hands, too, at one point. However, his label is not inside.

  21. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M. View Post
    From my internet search, it appears this guitar has passed through Larry Wexer’s hands, too, at one point. However, his label is not inside.
    Larry doesn’t use a label. I was just making reference to who’s label I would prefer to see - if both sellers pasted labels inside guitars. It was more of a direct comment on who I would trust more as a seller, based on my experience dealing with both.


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    Can we dissect the feelings about Joe V. and archtop.com? Is it his over the top salesmanship, or the cost of his guitars, or is it a quality issue, or something else?

    BTW- I bought a great 1949 ES-350 years ago from him (probably spent too much) but never thought to pull his label out of the guitar. I just did.

    Dan

  23. #222

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    Quote Originally Posted by gitman View Post
    I've seen many , MANY vintage guitars with labels (inside the body, on the back of the headstock, sometimes fastened with screws...) of the store that originally sold them and I always thought that it's part of the instrument's history. Whether it's Joe Vinikow (a very busy and successful seller, having survived in the buisiness for a long time) or your mom+pop store in Boise/Idaho makes no difference really, don't you think ? In most better violins etc. you'll find stickers of the repairmen + sometimes the owners who have handled the instrument over the (sometimes) centuries and nobody would think of removing them...

    yeah, well I don't like seeing decals/stickers etc. from the original store on guitars either. Larry Wexer doesn't do it simply because he's a classy dealer and probably wouldn't want someone's sticker on his instrument either.
    as a matter of fact when I bought my last new car [it's over 20 yrs old now] I specifically told the dealer I didn't want their logo screwed onto the trunk lid.
    I don't need my possessions to be an advertisement for a dealer.

  24. #223

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowe View Post
    Can we dissect the feelings about Joe V. and archtop.com? Is it his over the top salesmanship, or the cost of his guitars, or is it a quality issue, or something else?

    BTW- I bought a great 1949 ES-350 years ago from him (probably spent too much) but never thought to pull his label out of the guitar. I just did.

    Dan
    My desire to remove the label has nothing to do with Joe V. I would have removed it no matter who the dealer was. As I said, I think Joe did well by me. You always have to be careful and ask all the right questions. You need to ask a few more with some dealers. I’ll just leave it there.

  25. #224

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M. View Post
    My desire to remove the label has nothing to do with Joe V. I would have removed it no matter who the dealer was. As I said, I think Joe did well by me. You always have to be careful and ask all the right questions. You need to ask a few more with some dealers. I’ll just leave it there.
    Exactly this. I would have removed the label from any modern reseller. Now something vintage with the original stores label on it from the 50s is a different story.


    My experience in buying my Trenier from archtop.com could not have gone better.

  26. #225
    Glad to hear there have been some recent good experiences dealing with Archtop.com. That was not always the case, and there is a well documented post on that topic. Joe V. did get wind of that post and tried to make good with some disgruntled customers, so hopefully the recent experiences will instill some confidence with future buyers.

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  27. #226

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon View Post
    yeah, well I don't like seeing decals/stickers etc. from the original store on guitars either. Larry Wexer doesn't do it simply because he's a classy dealer and probably wouldn't want someone's sticker on his instrument either.
    as a matter of fact when I bought my last new car [it's over 20 yrs old now] I specifically told the dealer I didn't want their logo screwed onto the trunk lid.
    I don't need my possessions to be an advertisement for a dealer.
    Wintermoon,

    Me too! They always affix the cheeseball license plate holder to front and back. The first thing I do to the new vehicle is remove them!
    Mark M. has scored a seriously nice guitar, and I'm celebrating for Mark M. !

    I want to congratulate you Mark M on your new Trenier! It looks fantastic, and I imagine it's a joy to play. Great guitar, I'm sure. I have one, fortunately, and I love mine. Play it with all the life force that you can, and make some great music for yourself and others to enjoy! I'm going to celebrate Mark's NGD by taking my Trenier off the wall and giving her a serious workout today!

    Cheers!

  28. #227

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    Thanks, Sky.

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    Something you don’t come across on reverb every day..... 2008 Trenier from the Seattle days.

    Trenier Custom Jazz Guitar 2008 Dark Sunburst | Jim's | Reverb

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    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDogNewLicks View Post
    Something you don’t come across on reverb every day..... 2008 Trenier from the Seattle days.

    Trenier Custom Jazz Guitar 2008 Dark Sunburst | Jim's | Reverb

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDogNewLicks View Post
    Something you don’t come across on reverb every day..... 2008 Trenier from the Seattle days.

    Trenier Custom Jazz Guitar 2008 Dark Sunburst | Jim's | Reverb
    Bryant’s signature finish expertise is easily recognizable in this ‘08 guitar.

  33. #232

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    The nut width can’t possibly be 2 1/4”, can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDogNewLicks View Post
    Something you don’t come across on reverb every day..... 2008 Trenier from the Seattle days.

    Trenier Custom Jazz Guitar 2008 Dark Sunburst | Jim's | Reverb
    That one's been up on Reverb for a year. I wonder if the cramped controls is partially why it has sat that long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSanta View Post
    That one's been up on Reverb for a year. I wonder if the cramped controls is partially why it has sat that long?
    I suspect it's because it's priced quite high for an early build.

  36. #235

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolvinny View Post
    I suspect it's because it's priced quite high for an early build.
    This one was built only 7 before mine, and mine is quite an incredible build. I suspect Bryant had it together pretty well by #51.

  37. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M. View Post
    The nut width can’t possibly be 2 1/4”, can it?
    I queried that and he measures it as 1 3/4 so not sure where the 2 1/4 came from.
    The seller is the original owner. The neck was built to the specs of a Guild X500 he had at the time.