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  1. #151

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    Stunning jazz specials!!!


    One day...

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  3. #152

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    Those are some sweet-looking, music-making objet-d'artes!

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    Wow! These are beautiful!

    Quote Originally Posted by David B
    Bryant just shared some photos on Facebook and Instagram of the last Jazz Specials of 2020:

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    I know the three gentlemen getting these instruments and they are going to be amazed at the tone Bryant creates with these Jazz electrics. These guitars are really incomparable , and have what I now describe as the “Trenier sound “ - which is a warm resonant responsive vibe with endless sustain and ease of playability.

    The guitars are very light weight ( for a laminate) and a joy to play both amplified and unplugged

    They have become increasing popular over the past few years - and those who own them know why.

    What a great Christmas present.


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    For those interested -Bryant just posted a video playing all three jazz specials.

    He uses an old iPhone6 like me- but you can still get an idea of the tone.

    Trenier Guitars


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    One thing that I suggest all of you waiting for your archtops from Bryant is to clarify with him your preference for finger rest clearance below your high E string. My 17” Artifex archtop from Bryant (which I love...) arrived with its finger rest only about 1/8” (3 mm) offset from the high E string where I typically pick which was too close for me. This may be fine for some players but it was too close for me (my pick would hit it).

    A luthier friend of mine was able to adjust it for me to about a 1/4” to provide a bit more clearance (6 mm) shown below.


  8. #157

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    Quote Originally Posted by QAman
    For those interested -Bryant just posted a video playing all three jazz specials.

    He uses an old iPhone6 like me- but you can still get an idea of the tone.

    Trenier Guitars


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    That is a gorgeous tone. Trenier guitars truly sound as good as they look!

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    You can watch a Trenier Jazz Special in great hands tomorrow, Saturday 16 January, as my friend Nick Costley-White leads a group in a live-stream performance, presented by London venue/band/organisation Kansas Smitty's. Kansas Smitty's pivoted quickly last year from a small basement bar (and one of my favourite London jazz venues) to high-quality streaming from a professional studio.

    Nick is going to be performing music from Pat Metheny's 'Bright Size Life'.

    8pm London time, on the Kansas Smitty's Facebook and YouTube pages. The video will stay up on YouTube for a day or two afterwards.



    YOUTUBE: Kansas Smitty's - YouTube

    FACEBOOK: Kansas Smitty's
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    Quote Originally Posted by David B
    Thanks for sharing ! Great playing.....
    and the Trenier Jazz electric sounds great. Very smooth and pure sounding timbre to the voice.


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    Just posted this on my thread looking for pickup recommendations but thought I would share it here on the Trenier thread too. I usually practice late at night when the family is asleep so I love the warm sound of this guitar unplugged


  13. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie2
    Just posted this on my thread looking for pickup recommendations but thought I would share it here on the Trenier thread too. I usually practice late at night when the family is asleep so I love the warm sound of this guitar unplugged

    Nice playing Paulie2- you can hear the beautiful round ring to the Trenier voice.

    Thanks for sharing.


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    Tuesday 23 February at 8pm GMT, Nick Costley-White is playing duo with vibraphonist David Mrakpor. Live-streamed by Kansas Smitty's on YouTube and Facebook. Tunes associated with Ralph Towner, Gary Burton and other favourites.


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    Looking nice - thanks for sharing !


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    Quote Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
    My snakehead next to someone's excel. Seeing this pics reminds me I forgot to ask for no first fret inlay. Whoops.

    (I like my burst better)

    They both look beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
    NP. I just pasted it over from FB. Getting updates on this guitar is pretty much the only thing I use facebook for.

    Keep sharing any progress, I would love to follow along with the build

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    Two beautiful bursts! As you know J, I'm considering a similar vintage burst for my Jazz Special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie2
    Keep sharing any progress, I would love to follow along with the build
    Paulie,
    Here are three more shots from Trenier's Facebook post this morning:

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    Bryant hand rubbed these finishes - and when the clear is applied and buffed out ...it will look like a Loyd Loar period finish.

    My Broadway looked like yours at this stage and the finished product was extraordinary.

    You fortunate to be getting one. My Trenier Broadway is equal in every way to my original 35’ D’Angelico snakehead. Neither of which will be sold anytime soon.


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    I sold my Trenier Excel to a friend - and it’s now in the possession of Gary Larsen.

    Gary is a big time D’Aquisto collector and and enjoying the reincarnation of sorts , in a Trenier.

    You will love this new guitar.


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  22. #171
    Oh - I see what you mean. No problem my friend. I’m excited for you......I know how good it’s going to be.

    When I picked up my Broadway - I told Bryant it felt like I was at Kenmare street picking up a new D’Angelico. The guitar brought tears to my eyes. We were bought teary eyed.

    I had the same emotional response with my new Georgian. Bryants guitars just keep getting better, and better sonically.


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  23. #172

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    Oh I'm totally prepared to cry when this gets here.

  24. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
    Special into a 1940 EH 185. Sounds pretttty good.

    Nice playing - and oh that beautiful round smooth timbre of a Trenier Jazz electric. I was playing mine yesterday - it was from the first batch and I’m glad to own it.

    In the late eighties and into the early nineties I had the opportunity to play a few of the D’Aquisto electrics during my visit to Jimmy’s shop. In my opinion - Bryant’s 7 thin ply plates enhance the original design by adding a beautiful warmth and responsiveness. I also feel the Trenier guitar is easier to play then the original D’Aquisto.



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    Last edited by QAman; 03-07-2021 at 11:57 AM.

  25. #174

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    Just dropped my Trenier archtop off with my local luthier for the first time since I acquired it for a pickup swap and setup. He was excited and raving about the build quality, fret work, the pickguard, cleanliness of the work, etc. Cool to see someone who knows their stuff being excited about an instrument that I own.

    I will report back on the setup and new Lollar pickup as soon as I have it back in a couple weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
    Oh that's funny. You have a Trenier Excel and a DA Snakehead. I'm getting a Trenier Snakehead - should I get a DA Excel to match you? If I hadn't recently heard some horror stories about Rudy's I might have had one by now.
    I highly recommend that you do so.



  27. #176

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    I highly recommend that you do so.


    interesting snakehead. I wonder if John himself retrofitted the NYer t.p. or someone else did.
    if he did I wonder why he didn't use a shorter Excel t.p. [I've seen that on another snakehead]

  28. #177

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon
    interesting snakehead. I wonder if John himself retrofitted the NYer t.p. or someone else did.
    if he did I wonder why he didn't use a shorter Excel t.p. [I've seen that on another snakehead]
    John did it for the original owner (Andy Jackson) in the late 30s. There are a few pics from Jackson’s time with Edgar Hayes which show the tailpiece on the guitar.

  29. #178

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
    I highly recommend that you do so.


    I'm curious about the Trenier. Is that a recent acquisition?

  30. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by QAman
    I was playing mine yesterday ....... I also feel the Trenier guitar is easier to play then the original D’Aquisto. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Steve - Can you elaborate?

    Albert

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    Hi Albert,
    Its been such a while I thought your question was about my Trenier Broadway.

    The Trenier Jazz Electric has a thin 7 ply laminate, and the adjustable slotted tail pc bracket, which was not likely on the earlier D'Aquisto electrics that I played in Jimmy's shop. The slotted tail pc bracket enables you to adjust downward pressure on the top and affects string tension and playability.

    In my opinion, for a modern archtop, the break angle intersect at the tail pc should be on plane with the fingerboard or slightly below. Jimmy D'Aquisto was realizing this on the later period guitars- which contained the slotted bracket. This necessitated a flatter neck set....which Jimmy was doing. He was essentially creating the modern solo archtop, and bringing in some flat top characteristics.

    So - for example, if you put a straight edge on the fingerboard and visually extended it through the bridge it should hit the point where the strings enter the tail pc, or slightly below. My Georgian is set up this way and its responsive to the lightest touch - with tons of volume.

    Now, if we were playing in the big band Era, the break angle would need to be steeper to project a bright punchy sound - with less sustain.

    I attached a pic of my Jazz electric and Georgian so you can see the shallower angle from the bridge saddle to the tail pc. It’s hard to see the plane I’m referring to- but you get the idea.


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  32. #181

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    Final countdown..
    Will things ever be the same again?

    Spruce veneer top, PGs HCC pickup, QAmans brown burst..

    Thanks for your help during the waiting period.




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  33. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Fal Tarlow
    Final countdown..
    Will things ever be the same again?

    Spruce veneer top, PGs HCC pickup, QAmans brown burst..

    Thanks for your help during the waiting period.




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    Your getting closer. Great choice with the finish and CC pickup - it will be a warm lush sounding guitar.


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  34. #183

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    Quote Originally Posted by QAman
    Hi Albert,
    Its been such a while I thought your question was about my Trenier Broadway.

    The Trenier Jazz Electric has a thin 7 ply laminate, and the adjustable slotted tail pc bracket, which was not likely on the earlier D'Aquisto electrics that I played in Jimmy's shop. The slotted tail pc bracket enables you to adjust downward pressure on the top and affects string tension and playability.

    In my opinion, for a modern archtop, the break angle intersect at the tail pc should be on plane with the fingerboard or slightly below. Jimmy D'Aquisto was realizing this on the later period guitars- which contained the slotted bracket. This necessitated a flatter neck set....which Jimmy was doing. He was essentially creating the modern solo archtop, and bringing in some flat top characteristics.

    So - for example, if you put a straight edge on the fingerboard and visually extended it through the bridge it should hit the point where the strings enter the tail pc, or slightly below. My Georgian is set up this way and its responsive to the lightest touch - with tons of volume.

    Now, if we were playing in the big band Era, the break angle would need to be steeper to project a bright punchy sound - with less sustain.

    I attached a pic of my Jazz electric and Georgian so you can see the shallower angle from the bridge saddle to the tail pc. It’s hard to see the plane I’m referring to- but you get the idea.


    Thanks for illustrating that. I see what you mean, and it makes a great deal of sense. Many thanks!
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  35. #184

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    I experimented with the tailpiece height for quite some time when I got my Jazz Special, along with different types and gauges of strings and I strongly suggest every new owner does the same - these guitars are so responsive and "efficient" (in lack of a better word) that the slightest changes in these parameters will be heard and felt. My guitar was put together in early 2019, finished by April and I had it my hands by early July - it's nicely settled in now and I THINK I have found the optimal combination of string gauge+type, action and general setup by now which works for ME and my special requirements. Very interesting journey and mos. def. a learning experience ... I'd LOVE to get my hands on one of these 16" solid-wood archtops .... so tempting !

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    Finally got the Lollar Imperial in my Trenier to replace the Duncan it arrived with. Wow, what a huge upgrade!!! I had a thread on the forum and a lot of people recommended this model. I reached out to Bryant as well and he confirmed those recommendations as one of the best choices for what I am looking for.

    It just "feels" better to play, as the notes have more of a creaminess to them, similar to the 57 classics in my 335. This gave the guitar better warmth, better clarity, and much better evenness in response across all strings when compared to the Duncan. The had SD had a stark contrast between the wounds and unwounds and was more brittle sounding. The only trade off, which is not necessarily a bad thing at all just different, is that this is more "electric" sounding than the Duncan, if you know what I mean. Its hard describing these concepts of tone.

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    Incoming:

    Trenier guitars-4573becb-708d-4440-8915-74ee872f9cd4-jpegTrenier guitars-3dcdd310-9ccb-49ed-88de-6c8b041ee007-jpegTrenier guitars-115eddcb-65a4-497a-b21d-baa866a716d0-jpegTrenier guitars-735b7a74-a8d0-4f5f-8456-6a9253fe3d86-jpegTrenier guitars-68a9045c-b6b8-47d0-993c-ef0b84d8b382-jpegTrenier guitars-a118495f-5bc6-4069-9e97-665f98a7dd3b-jpegTrenier guitars-ac3e43e3-065d-4788-b251-e22ca6276804-jpeg

    I’ll report back when I receive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    Incoming:

    Trenier guitars-4573becb-708d-4440-8915-74ee872f9cd4-jpegTrenier guitars-3dcdd310-9ccb-49ed-88de-6c8b041ee007-jpegTrenier guitars-115eddcb-65a4-497a-b21d-baa866a716d0-jpegTrenier guitars-735b7a74-a8d0-4f5f-8456-6a9253fe3d86-jpegTrenier guitars-68a9045c-b6b8-47d0-993c-ef0b84d8b382-jpegTrenier guitars-a118495f-5bc6-4069-9e97-665f98a7dd3b-jpegTrenier guitars-ac3e43e3-065d-4788-b251-e22ca6276804-jpeg

    I’ll report back when I receive it.
    Nice! That one caught my eye, too. Let us know what you think when you get it.

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    You're a lucky man !

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    I was wondering who bought it, glad it was someone on the forum!

  41. #190

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSanta
    I was wondering who bought it, glad it was someone on the forum!
    Agreed! That site has been having a good number of Treniers pop up recently, usually older ones. Its where I got mine a few months back

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    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.

  43. #192

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    Awesome, Mark! Looking forward to your NGD. I wonder how the Model E compares to the Jazz Special? Obviously the Model E is a carved top vs. the laminate of the Jazz Special. Congratulations!

  44. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    No surprise by your reaction....its a Trenier - and a fully carved instrument that would cost you double what you paid if ordering it new today. I knew that guitar wouldn't last long.

    Smart buy !!

    .

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  45. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    It’s here, and it’s even better than I ever imagined it could be. I am stunned, really. I’ll do a NGD post and give a full report when I can catch my breath.
    MARK,

    Congratulations! Your excitement is infectious! (I’m expecting an instrument from Trenier soon.)

    AKA

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    This is kind of cool. No label, just Bryant’s signature with the serial number stamped inside:

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    Just like Jim D'Aquisto numbered and signed his builds.

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    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.

  49. #198

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.
    I definitely removed that as well. It is a little much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark M.
    ....I’m going to have to take Joe V’s label out of the inside if I can. He did well by me, but that thing has to go.
    He puts his own labels in guitars he sells? That's pretty weird/annoying, but then he is Mr. Marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon
    He puts his own labels in guitars he sells? That's pretty weird/annoying, but then he is Mr. Marketing.
    yeah at least in my experience. It struck me as a little odd, but came out no problem with a pair of tweezers