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    I’m not building, per se, because I’m not starting from scratch. But I am taking my acoustic Godin 5th Avenue and adding a floating pickup. I’m perfectly comfortable doing all the electronics work EXCEPT installing the endpin jack, because of the limited access through the F-holes. I’m worried about tightening the nut to hold it in place from inside the guitar. So I’m leaning towards using this jack:

    WD Music Products® Screw Mount Stereo Endpin Jack

    My question is: is there a better product or a better way to do this that I’m missing?

    secondary question: how would you recommend grounding the trapeze tailpiece on an existing instrument to minimize hum?

    Figured I’d ask the experts.

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    This the one I use self taps in but I aready have a reamer. I would use this and you can simply run ground to the tailpiece hinge when you put it back on. Just strip ground so wire is exposed enough attach.

    Fishman Switchjack Endpin Jack | stewmac.com
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    Here is another option I use and actually like this better.
    WDENDPIN Chrome Endpin Stereo/Mono Jack Active Preamp | Reverb
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    My $.02:

    Meh:
    WD Music Products® Screw Mount Stereo Endpin Jack
    WDENDPIN Chrome Endpin Stereo/Mono Jack Active Preamp | Reverb

    Love it:
    Fishman Switchjack Endpin Jack | stewmac.com

    Why?
    -It works with a lot of tailpieces so that one does not need to modify the strap pin hole in the tailpiece.
    -It can lock onto the endblock of the guitar.
    -It is remarkably secure once installed.
    -Really easy to install, with no extra holes required, no tapping of threads required.
    -Excellent build quality.
    -Looks way nicer than the others, IMO.

    Just did this one:
    Attached Images Attached Images Any tips for installing endpin jack?-hoyer_4824-jpg Any tips for installing endpin jack?-hoyer_4826-jpg 
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    My only advice is to get a reamer. Don't even think about doing it with a drill bit. You don't need StewMac's, they're very proud of theirs, way too expensive. But you can buy one at most tool stores, probably even Harbor Freight, and it should work fine. I've forgotten where I got mine, it's >25 years old. I've only used it a few times, but it was worth the price. It's also handy for enlarging holes for pots, and anywhere else you need to enlarge a hole in wood.

    For grounding, the jack provides adequate grounding for the strings with a metal tailpiece. The ground wire to the jack should be connected to common ground in the guitar. But check that to make sure.

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    My reamer from Menards was about $9.00 same tool.
    specializing in repair and setup, does your guitar play like it should?

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    So I had a regular jack (not an endpin) and decided to go this route because I didn’t want to drill through the end block. But I didn’t do a dry run before drilling and my jack is too big to squeeze through the f-hole. Any suggestions?
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    Go big or go home:
    Attached Images Attached Images Any tips for installing endpin jack?-godin-fix-jpg 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone View Post
    Go big or go home:
    Lol! Woke up thinking about a different jack and Les Paul style plate.

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    EP-0151 Switchcraft(R) 151 Mono Long Threaded Jack
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    You must have some very small f holes. I've never had a problem getting a jack through one, although it can require trying different orientations to wiggle it through. Jacks do come in different sizes, though. I've never used that type of jack other than in an endblock, but it should work. And a number of manufacturers use that sort of plate in the rim, including Benedetto.

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    Since you are going electric, why not just go all JJ Cale on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone View Post
    Since you are going electric, why not just go all JJ Cale on it?
    Holy Balls! Wow! I’m not against my instrument being well played and sporting a few battle scars, it I would NEVER do that to one.

    I actually went with a floating pickup and pickguard mounted controls to avoid cutting into the soundboard. I bought the Gibson jack plate at the local Guitar Center (at twice the price of Amazon, but I wanted it today). 8 had a similar jack to what I posted in my spare parts bin, but it isn’t threaded all the way, so I went to Lowe’s and got a nylon bushing to take up the gap and make it tight. Now I just have to drill the hole into the jack plate a little bigger and hope the chrome doesn’t flake. Going to cover it with Frog tape first to protect it.

    [EDITED TO ADD] found this when looking up what in the world he had going on. J.J. Cale’s Fifty Dollar Guitar | American Standard Time
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    Hey, it's a big tent. and, what with the universe expanding 'n'all, it keeps getting bigger.
    The Harmony brand has been reintroduced.
    Maybe they'll offer a JJ Cale model.
    Followed by Chinese knockoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertone View Post
    Go big or go home:
    Now, those are just so your giant Texas shaped belt buckle doesn't scratch up the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell View Post
    You must have some very small f holes. I've never had a problem getting a jack through one, although it can require trying different orientations to wiggle it through. Jacks do come in different sizes, though. I've never used that type of jack other than in an endblock, but it should work. And a number of manufacturers use that sort of plate in the rim, including Benedetto.
    So I was really tired last night and after sleeping and spending the morning not thinking about it, I reapproached the regular jack I already had soldered in and having loose, and found by inserting it BACKSIDE FIRST through the hole, I could work it in. It left a small scratch on the f-hole side, but it isn’t bound and it’s not a big deal. The pickup is installed and sounds sweet!

    My Varsity amp breaks up too soon and doesn’t have the headroom I’d like but the Carvin MB-12 bass amp sounds great. I just wish it had some reverb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zcostilla View Post
    and found by inserting it BACKSIDE FIRST through the hole, I could work it in. It left a small scratch on the f-hole side, but it isn’t bound and it’s not a big deal. The pickup is installed and sounds sweet! .
    yay result !

    whats the pickup and guitar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu View Post
    yay result !

    whats the pickup and guitar ?
    Godin 5th Avenue (acoustic) with custom Charlie Christian floating pickup by Vintage Vibe (Pete Biltoft)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell View Post
    That “Jazzy Room” tone print sounds SWEET!
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    I like the GC default, something like "chasing the tone", but there are many hundreds of them available.