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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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11-23-2018 03:36 PM
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Here we go, I can't hang at 305, so here's this for laughs. Got vibed by my kid (same Lil guy from first video, 5 years later...yikes!)
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Altreet then ... here's my Green Dolphin Street. Dang, I look pissed off in this. I blame Joe 2758.
I'll probably skip Cherokee (definitely not gonna try it at 305 BPM).
John
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
John
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Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar
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Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
JohnLast edited by John A.; 11-23-2018 at 11:08 PM.
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Originally Posted by don_oz
John
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Originally Posted by John A.
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k i think we just need donnie ozmond on cherokee and graham on gds then i can start the threads
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When I lose, can we just measure the size of our
Offspring? Seriously, these kids are friggin' huge.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Joking. Sounds good man, well done!
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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very nice .. the only fast tempo jazz i like is Django gypsy style.....more is less then lol..
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Originally Posted by Hep To The Jive
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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round 1:
Cutting GDS head to head
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osmond you still working on cherokee or should i make the thread
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Originally Posted by joe2758
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Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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I have not directly run into cutting per say but I have run into guitar players who have egos. A few were pretty amazing players but the problem was they wanted you to know it and how well they played in comparison to you. I would love to name some names but will refrain. I am particularly thinking of one who is an incredible player and known amoung many, he came accross as a prima donna and a know it all.
Most great players do not have to do this but there are a few that are insecure. They can play but they do not want you to be able to.
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Cutting is a vestige of bygone jazz culture, like the beret, zoot suit, horn rimmed glasses, cigarette holder- it should really go away. It seems like "vibing" is the passive-aggressive replacement.
Jazz is in a precarious spot- it's not popular enough to alienate even more people with that behavior.
There's a jam session near me, it's well run and has a good rhythm section, but I don't go very often. It's hit-or-miss, sometimes crowded with guitar players, lucky if I get to play 1 or 2 tunes, sometimes kids who don't know many tunes, or visiting pros, like I played with Richie Cole one time. There's an "in crowd" of guys who show up and get most of the time.
Contrast that to a local bluegrass jam - everybody plays, gets a solo if they want, very friendly supportive environment. It's not really "my jam", musically, but I went a few times and found it welcoming, low stress, fun, and I learned some things. Maybe not a fair comparison, but the jazz world would do well to encourage people.
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I perform mostly solo - I am very careful not to cut myself.
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Originally Posted by Thoughtfree
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by pingu
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Originally Posted by Tal_175
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Originally Posted by pingu
Mind you he doesn't like the big chords that some pianist play. Those are the chords that would be impossible on the guitar. Still I'm sure there is a bit of exaggeration in that statement. Although it's obviously true that there are many expressive things that guitarist can do that would be impossible on the piano.Last edited by Tal_175; 05-02-2019 at 08:44 AM.
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Have you ever heard such and such guitarist sounds like a piano player? Yes. Have you ever heard such and such piano player sounds like a guitar player? No! Why? Because they freaking cant even if they tried! You can't strum a piano. The only thing they have on us is extended voicings. But who cares, it's not an advantage really.
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Well as Sonny Rollins puts it (I’ll track down the link David B has it) he likes the guitar cos ot takes up less room.
He might mean in terms of voicings, but I think he also means in terms of the sound. Electric guitar is a pretty small sounding thing.
Piano has a lot more overtones.
I think that’s why guitar players use delay (and chorus back in the 80s) try and get more size out of the instrument. Wonder if that’s missing the point. (I love delay tho)
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Guitar is the better band and accompany instrument. Piano is the better solo instrument.
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Guitar vs. Piano makes me remember the statement by Goethe, which I hope I recall correctly:
"In der Beschränkung macht sich erst der Meister."
My translation: "In limitation best, is the Master manifest."
By imposing limits, the guitar pushes a musician to mastery, forcing the player to make hard choices.
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I'm jealous that pno players can play those close cluster chords so easily
also Tatum where he plays a line but with the big chords
(what ARE those voicings ? They're great !)
i suppose Benson gets closest to that on guitar v, octaves with a fifth or fourth
in there , but not the same sound though
also pno can walk a bass line fairly easily
i know Joe pass , Tuck Andress , etc but it's much tougher on gtr innit
still we can do a lot of stuff they can't do
so its all good
carry on cutting !
although I hate cutting
its just saying I'm better than you
what is achieved by that ?
i was once cut on Autumn Leaves
i was playing all the changes etc
then the next guitarist solos all minor pentatonic
And blues licks all over the changes
the audience absolutely Loved It
what ya gonna do huh ?
carry on !
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OTOH imagine you could get up and do this
Everyone else would instantly realise the error of their ways.
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I could, if I played alto about a hundred times better than I play guitar.
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That Johnny Hodges clip is awesome .
Cesar Amaro--Maestro!
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