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Originally Posted by p1p
However, personal networks remain the best way to get a gig. Obviously.
That’s the way I get my work. While i have no music degree I am specifically qualified as a music educator (thanks to a Yamaha bursary via the late lamented Jazz Services UK) but I am under no illusions that a Royal Academy graduate in performance wouldn’t be favoured every time in a cold application, even though a performance degree has no actual bearing on someone’s teaching. That’s just life....
People don’t look at what you studied - just where you went.
I would advise anyone to think carefully before getting a music degree. TBH
in the UK I’d suggest they go to continent* and study for free, unless they can get a scholarship to the US colleges or are trust fund babies.
I’ll add it’s really obvious to me at undergrad level which players are going to have a career playing to some extent and who will maybe end up doing something else. It’s not just talent.
*we’ll see how Brexit affects that...Last edited by christianm77; 04-20-2018 at 01:42 PM.
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04-20-2018 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Not sure why he felt the need to call out Juilliard at the end as being specifically not valuable. The classical and jazz programs there are very different, if he's talking about the jazz program, one reason is that it's a very small program. And if he's talking classical, that's apples and oranges for someplace like Berklee, especially as classical folks working orchestral jobs generally will move after school.
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Originally Posted by Jazzstdnt
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Originally Posted by andrew42
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I like both kinds of music, college music and blues.
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Last edited by Stevebol; 04-21-2018 at 05:40 AM.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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Originally Posted by mrcee
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Originally Posted by mrcee
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No kiddin'.
The money sounds good but (and I could be wrong here) if it's basically 3 days by the time you do whatever preparation is necessary, travel way out of town (State maybe if you're in the NE) and at least part of a day to regroup maybe not so much. Also there's surely a 1099 involved which will cut your take by a third. $600 would be good but $400 a little light imo. Anyway not really worth a $400,000 education.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
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Yeah. Function gigs are a grind.
Life spent on the road at weekends.
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Originally Posted by christianm77
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
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If you go to school for music they're not going to tell you a two-class society exists for musicians but it does.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
i can't tell what's more artisocratic/privileged: a half million dollars spent on 'jazz school' or normalizing a YouTube/wedding band career after the half mill. education... then again, i am probably just bitter b/c i couldn't swing the expense of a college music education here in the US.
i like adam's videos though; he's super articulate and thoughtful, his original music is pretty cool too...
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Playing these types of gigs on the side hasn't been that bad for me. If you have a steady band, once you have the repertoire down and the band is ready, you can do a lot of gigs in town without the hassle of traveling. Play a couple of evenings a week, it 's a salary by itself. But then again i live in greece, where things are more relaxed. Meaning you go to the gig 1-2 hours early not half a day . Same with TV or studio stuff which say in the states would take all day! And i also like the music if the band is good
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In retrospect, I didn't mean to sound so shitty about wedding gigs, I just hate weddings. It seems the wedding/event thing can actually be downright lucrative for some here, even. If someone enjoys that and it puts food on the table, I am definitely not trying to knock it.
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Originally Posted by basscadet
Me..
I'm going to China;
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Another take on the subject from JALC:
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I left a comment yesterday on this thread and it was deleted...can anyone tell me why? I thought it innocuous and def G rated.
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Originally Posted by rabbit
RIP Nick Gravenites
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