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When I first joined this forum years ago, I did not realize how much of a hustle life was trying to earn a living as a musician, much less as a Jazz guitarist.
I thought that you just buy the darn thing, practice your butt off, improve, and then after awhile you finds some guys to play with and have fun making music and money.
Wow, how my eyes have been opened, and my heart broke time and time again reading about the plights many guitarist have been in. I know it is easy to blame the individual guitarist but still, the facts remains that it is tough for most making a living as a musician without compromising.
I never imagined the hustling that was involved until I read the many stories shared by forum members and links to other articles. And also, meeting and getting to know some of the local longtime players has been an education.
So I conclude that to survive, a musician must have some business skills and savvy. Heck, just getting ones finances together enough to be able to pay these high medical insurance rates can be a challenge in and of itself. And there is so much more to it beyond that.
My prayers to all you gigging musicians and in 2017, I vow to get out more and support some of out local players like I used to.
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01-16-2017 06:50 PM
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Thanks for an excellent post, AlsoRan. In my experience, it's not just folks in the audience that don't grok the complexities or even the basics of the biz-ness end of the deal, but all too frequently, the players themselves. In many years of starting, booking, and promoting bands crossing/mixing multiple genres, I've encountered a good deal of lack of understanding about the essentials of playing music and getting paid for it. Getting together with your buds and playing stuff in your basement or your garage or (most frequently) in your drummer's basement is one thing; managing the logistical and psychological challenges to getting some venue to let you do your collective thing in public, for money, more than once is quite another. I think I'll leave it at that.
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I still remember my first experience way back in grade school in my art class. I used to draw all the time on my own - but what I wanted to draw.
Once I got in art class and had to draw what the teacher wanted, suddenly drawing was not much fun anymore. It became work.
I can imagine another facet of playing for a living is that when you are at home, you can enjoy playing what you want to play, but you probably won't be able to do that during the gig.
At that point, music would become work, at least for me.
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Originally Posted by citizenk74
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Your point about "work" is well taken. Meaningful work can be a positive joy. Playing in wedding bands taught me that playing all kinds of music, however humble or hokey, for people who are celebrating a social occasion can be downright fun. Doing a good job, delivering the goods, and helping people to experience joy and feel, however temporarily, a shared sense of goodwill, and getting paid for it, can be very satisfying.
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Originally Posted by AlsoRan
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'So I conclude that to survive, a musician must have some business skills and savvy'.
Gee, ya think? (LOL)...
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'Practice your butt off, improve'
'I NEVER practice. Every once in a while I open the case and throw in some raw meat'---Wes Montgomery
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Originally Posted by fasstrack
But seriously, I was just making the point that it ain't all about the fun like soooo many young musicians have found out the hard way. Just tune into VH1's "Behind the Music" or BET's "Unsung." Episode after episode of exploitation and misery that can follow you into old age as sad regret.
What seems so apparent to us old farts is apparently not so easily seen by young or even inexperienced older musicians.
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There's a basic floor of skill you need to meet to make it as a pro but beyond that it is all about business skills, marketing, professionalism, and hustle.
I've worked as a musician for a while and am very happy at the moment to be working a good side gig instead of sweating it out playing bars and teaching.
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Originally Posted by drbhrb
I appreciate much more the gravity of their stories now, and how they had to market themselves, make connections...basically "get off their butt" and get after it or pay someone else to do it for them.
If you are not self-motivated and a hustler, it seems you are setting yourself up to be cannon fodder. I really respect the intellect, industriousness, and high energy of the successful working musician just as much as I respect leaders in other fields.
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I've had to rely on gigging as my sole source of income on several instances in my adult life. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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Everyone needs to learn how to budget including gigolos.
I'm just a janitor now. I know my place.
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In my experience it was about hustle and never leaving yourself broke. Easier said than done. i couldn't sustain it.
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The tough part is if you've settled on a budget that relies on a certain income, and it's every two weeks "reliability," and then you find yourself outside of that situation. If you're on your own, it's one thing, man up and eat Ramen. But if you're married and got kids...one thing I told myself is not too sacrifice anything for the kids until absolutely necessary.
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I know people who only music that interests them professionally. But they make it happen.
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Down in Joe's Garage
We didn't have no dope or LSD
But a coupla quartsa beer
Would fix it so the intonation
Would not offend yer ear
And the same old chords goin' over 'n' over
Became a symphony
We would play it again 'n' again 'n' again
'Cause it sounded good to me
ONE MORE TIME!
We could jam in Joe's Garage
His mama was screamin',
"TURN IT DOWN!"
We was playing' the same old song
In the afternoon 'n' sometimes we would
Play it all night long
It was all we knew, and easy too
So we wouldn't get it wrong
Even if you played it on a saxophone
We thought we was pretty good
We talked about keepin' the band together
'N' we figured that we should
'Cause about this time we was gettin' the eye
From the girls in the neighborhood
They'd all come over 'n' dance around
like...
STOMP-CLAP,
STOMP-CLAP-CLAP...
So we picked out a stupid name
Had some cards printed up for a coupla bucks
'N' we was on our way to fame
Got matching suits 'N' Beatle Boots
'N' a sign on the back of the car
'N' we was ready to work in a GO-GO Bar
ONE TWO THREE FOUR
LET'S SEE IF YOU GOT SOME MORE!
People seemed to like our song
They got up 'n' danced 'n' made a lotta noise
An' it wasn't 'fore very long
A guy from a company we can't name
Said we oughta take his pen
'N' sign on the line for a real good time
But he didn't tell us when
These "good times" would be somethin'
That was really happenin'
So the band broke up
An' it looks like
We will never play again...
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Life... you only got one shot, no second chances...
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Aside from skill, working as a musician depends on the same 3 things as selling real estate.....location, location, location...
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Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
Amen, Brother!
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That's MISTER old fart to you, buddy...
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when I was about 12 years old we had a guest conductor for our woodwind ensemble. I don't remember his name but he suggested we go for pro "only if you can't imagine yourself doing anything else"
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I had a guitar teacher that said, "there are more people making a good living playing in the NBA than there are (making a good living) playing jazz guitar".
Probably not true (unless you set "a good living" at several 100k or more), he was just making a point.
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Originally Posted by Stevebol
Everywhere I....
Shit, there's NO RHYME for 'janitor'...
RIP Nick Gravenites
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