View Poll Results: Backing Tracks for live gigs
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You're absolutely right that music was more advanced back in the day because that's what the 'market' paid for. The kings' court and such. It's fascinating to me that we still have talented pop musicians making somewhat emotionally impactful music. But it's filtered. I miss the old way where the artists played exactly what they meant and the market supported it, and society enjoyed it. Oh well, it's never going back. Fortunately, the grass roots styles of music still continue on, only not as popular forms in society.
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04-26-2021 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Clint 55
It was great and we got used that there were The Beatles and Chaplin, Elvis and Disney... that really mass culture can produce masterpieces.
But the problem of pop culture is that it cannot last long or form a school and tradition.
And that is what we have now... it is exhausted and it becomes what it really is ... a mass entertainment.
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Originally Posted by Jonah
Now it's Gen Z's turn and women are leading the way. Cardi B, Billy Eilish, Olivia Rodrigo.
It's just pop music but there can be moments of brilliance.
This thing with 'entertainment' has been going on for 35 years in pop.
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Originally Posted by Will St Peter
Well, the musician was in trouble to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
Or middle segment where they would consider efficiency but would not sacrifice music.
But as we speak about bottom of the market - the biggest area - where musicians struggle for every buck.... they would easily substitute even good bassist or drummer if they can emulate them with backing tracks, or pedals and drum machine and they can live with decrease of musical quality
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Originally Posted by Jonah
Market? Which market? I guess some would like to call themselves musicians where in fact they are just hobbyists who charge money every now and then.
Besides that: every bandleader knows that bringing more musicians means more paychecks to pay. Hence . . . smaller bands. Having a hornsection means your doing good. Replace a hornsection by one sax/trumpet and a keyboard, and it means you're doing not so good. Leaving out the one horn, it means . . . . . Well fill in teh blanks.
You are making it sound like there is a crisis going on. We have the corononacrisis, a housingcrisis, a political crisis and above all there is a crisis in musicianmarket: they are replacing bassplayers with backingtracks!
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Originally Posted by Marcel_A
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Anything goes on gigs and in the studio. Downsizing isn't going away. You might be the best band around but fewer people and more tech might make more money for the venue.
Backing tracks- yes.
I'd be bored out of my mind doing it but there's no sense in being a hater.
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Just use a looper.
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If someone uses the backing tracks reasonably and tastefully... I'm all for it.
Of course, it all depends on what you're playing and in what style.
I used to do a solo in a music studio with live musicians... it was also like a backig track.
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8 years later, id like to chime in and say I've come around on this and have softened my stance and hatred against people who gig "jazz" with backing tracks.
Just kidding!
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Just did this last night...about 50/50 chord melody/looper. bought one of those new Boss RC-5 loopers. its great..i record myself in garage band and then bounce the track to the Boss looper and store the track. it has and internal memory of 99 slots. So i guess its a backing track sorta, but its me playing, using my Godin or Moffa and no other instruments. im just not using the looper on the fly...yet
Originally Posted by strumcat
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For those interested in how tracks can sound live, here is a live recording (two-minute listen) from a retirement home gig earlier this week.
There are four song snippets, chosen to showcase listener response rather than my decidedly modest guitar and vocal skills (I’m no jazzer, but I do play a number of standards). I put my H2N on the floor about 6 feet in front of my speaker and let it run for an hour.
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I don't like using backing tracks but I have used them in situations where the budget did not permit for me hire sidemen.
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