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It’s also worth pointing out that much classical music theory is an attempt to elevate aesthetics to a science, to formulate objective virtue in...

Sounds good. Next up (if you don't mind some advice from someone who used that book): 1. read the lines in different positions and in different...

It’s possible to make somewhat objective statements about music - this musician is playing notes from this pitch set, this musician is playing behind...

That is possible. The guitar I had it on had limited clearance (1979 Maton Starline), so lowering the pickup wasn't an option, and it was fairly...

I will start a dedicated Israel-Palestine thread today in order not to annoy those here not interested in history happening right in front of their...

To quote Rahsaan: "The nose knows, y'all."

Came again, hoping things had cooled, to post about my music school experience, but here we go again! There are places to go to vent and argue. I...

I basically live in T-shirts and I can't wear one with a tag. I've also become a scrawny old man. But I do think it's a great design.

Great playing, Jonathan! :D

As always, I love JS' playing! FV's trad/gypsy/swing roots complemented JS quite well, I think.

Damn Vinny, what?!?! That's insane!

Cam-pell-own :)

^ That guy's friggin good. He kind of made Frank sound like a slouch on the 1st tune.

Thanks for your answers, I will do some tests

Just finishing watching tonight's show with Jonathon Stout. That was fun. I had other commitments, and had to watch it late, but it was definitely...

I understand that Gretsch guitars that were made at the Peerless factory in Korea have serial numbers that start with "GP" (= Gretsch Peerless...

Funny, I had the exact same problem on my Japanese ES-175 copy, a strip of fiberboard under the pickguard corrected it - you could also use a rubber...

Another recollection, too late for this party - Look at a picture of Metheny's ES175. Notice the toothbrush, plastic wood, and electrical tape....

I have owned several Genzlers. I started with the Compak 300. I now have both of the AA's, (the Pro and the Mini). I REALLY like them. I also...

Well if you want to save up another $2K I can let you have this. To my ears a 18x2.5 CES sounds the same as a 17x3.3 or at least to me.

Once it was the little screws in the tuners.

My ES-175 had a rattle which turned out to be the pickguard rattling against the pickup ring. I removed the pickguard, which ended the rattle, and...

https://youtu.be/iTp-a8Tp4uw?si=Pf4DdoSIVJ7qTTIG

Sorry you missed out. I got one while I worked at Ibanez and had literally the pick of any guitar to take home on Purchase Day. The PM20 is as close...

If it's for classical musicians, who should be no strangers to analysis (Schenkerian etc), then most aspects of the Jazz language obviously can be...

Hips square, above the knee line, heart over the hips, head above the heart, arms relaxed and reaching beneath the neck without twisting the back. ...

My sofa is not a “sink in” type. When you sit on it, you are sitting ON it rather than in it. I can sit on it and play a song or two for company. But...

A Strat that sounds like an L5? :smile-new:

Sometimes your nose itches, and something has to be done about it.

At the descriptive level, yes; the Greeks had Truth, Goodness, and Beauty. In jazz these way be thought to manifest as Authenticity, Appropriateness,...

Today was a travel day so I read about 150 pages of Lego Bricks in various airports today. Love it. This obviously doesn’t qualify as “working...

I hadn't played this since I listed it but broke it out today and it's really the most L5-like of anything I've owned since an L5-CES...Nice to have...

As long as were keeping it in the family prozzis 575 is sitting at a steal 16" all carved loud enough for practice and stunning plugged in under 3k,...

Since you’re the owner of an L5 Studio I hoped you would have chimed in since he asked about the merits of an L5 Studio.

I've sold a total of 3 guitars, as well as I remember. One I bought as an investment to sell for profit, and that worked well. I don't expect to...

Most of the players in the military bands already have degrees before they enter the bands. I have several friends I went to North Texas with who...

I don't know how it's possible to have good posture sitting on a sofa and playing guitar. I like a firm chair, or an office chair without arms. I...

This is a great deal! If I hadn't bought an L5CES recently, I'd have been very tempted.

Congratulations Fred! There’s nothing like the tone of a big box!

There are several threads on the forum addressing this. There are far too many possibilities to even begin to give an answer, but I'll try to start...

My pickup ring and knobs buzz. I found them by hitting the note and touching stuff till I found the noise. The weird thing, once I knew what the...

You should have kept to your initial inclination instead of showing (yet again, IIRC) that you can't read or read what you want to read. Or maybe...

I was too vague. I would skip the FX to have a monitor in your specific situation.

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There are 25 Peerless on the GNJ website: Inventory — Guitars 'n Jazz

Old thread, new (to me) issue. Brought about by jazz guitar! Well not by jazz guitar. But by my not obeying things that I know for ages. I’ve...

Reviving this as I recently missed a PM20 in my hesitation! If anyone has leads on a PM20 any help would be appreciated

Man, that's awesome!

Just a moment...

Good advice, but I don't know of an L-5 in any music store in the Twin Cities and I only even know of one guy who owns one. There have to be more...

Gotcha. My ES-175 does not have outstanding acoustic sound. It's adequate for practicing in a quiet room where I can at least hear the notes without...

Maybe saying I want an L5 is like saying I want a Chevy. New Corvette or old Chevette? Which L5?

If we're indoors (not yet clear, they also have a patio), we'll have to be careful about adding reverb. It's a very live room. I don't like a too-dry...

It is annoying indeed. I find it easier to ask someone (usually my wife) to play the note which triggers the rattle and move around dampening...

Yep, farther away vintages it out a bit, closer makes it sound more hi-fi. There is also fine tuning each side of the pup, bass and treble. ...

If my idea of "warm old style" is similar to what you mean by it, move the pickup as far away from the strings as possible before it becomes too...

RIP Getting kind of tired of this forum. If I want actual productive and nice discussion I can just post on Open Studio.

Took my DIY 50ies inspired Tele to a blues jam. Unsurprisingly it felt right at home… https://youtu.be/F3ZAM-qiZ8g?si=KkYDDlSMGuSEhZpa

I've only tried a few dual pickup L5s from the 90s onwards, but "sound good acoustic" is not exactly the phrase I would personally use to describe...

I lost count…. But this is the latest one: Quilter Superblock US. It’s sitting on an unfinished speaker cabinet (cut up Ikea bedside table,...

I made my argument - and I notice you have failed to rebut any of the points I made, casually dismissing it as 'bad history'. So - tell me why was...

Still available. Taking offers.

I remember; your comments inspired me when one came available. I sold it recently and have often questioned that decision.

To keep things musical I want to always be working on at least 1. a tune 2. playing through changes of a real tune improvising outlining the...

Let's start another music school thread

I thought about doing another pro-Israel response in this thread but I decided instead to listen to a Wes Montgomery record, as it is a better use of...

I have a number of 17 inch guitars and to tell the truth my L5 feels the biggest of the 17 inch guitars I have. In fact it feels a bit bigger than...

keep in mind that an L-5 is typically 17" wide w/25.5" scale length and an L-4 16" /24.75 if that's a consideration.

Accusing someone of having a phobia and declining to rebut arguments are crude tactics, both intellectually weak and morally nasty. This is not...

TMZ has a brand new ebony L4CES that I happen to know they will let go for $5K if new w/warranty is something you would want.

Super Sweet !!! Both the guitar and the tone.

Hm. What's wrong with noodling? The ability to noodle is at the heart of jazz improv. Practicing, as far as I'm concern, is made up of a lot of...

I had one and i loved it

Congrats! Slaman is highly regarded and although I've not had the opportunity to play one, they always sound great in videos. Yours is no exception!...

ok, a custom made guitar might be better from a quality control stand point as I noted, but really in no other way unless it's custom made to the...

Yep, If I was looking for a carved Gibson archtop (I own three plus a Campellone), I would buy the L-4CES that JZ is selling on this forum (if I did...

My inclination was not to respond to this topic but your level of ignorance is so profound that I felt I must say something..... Israel's war...

It's all a preference. Depends on the things you value. L5 is heavy and fat, has 25.5 scale, set pickups. Those things may or may not matter to you....

I know this isn't what the thread is about, but also consider trying some Eastman archtops. You could save a whole lotta cash and end up with...

Not to mention JZ is practically giving his away right here and here you have an endorsement from one of the best players with unquestionable...

Thank you, Adrian. I appreciate that. Jonathan Stout's opinion matters to me.

Tim I can’t believe you have never played an L5. You been playing and around guitars all these years and live in a large metropolitan area? You...

If I was you Id be talking with TRM

A Gibson is a guitar made in a factory for a specific price point. The decisions made regarding design, materials even finish are made by corporate...

In Elliott's companion book "Insights in Jazz", he mentions a list from the Manhattan School of Music's "Jazz Student Handbook". They say, "12 tunes...

We're paying for it now with Mexican cartels. I live in cartel country. They're more powerful and influencial than most people think. They're demonic...

Nose picking?

Gads, if the brand is gone it's too bad. My Peerless PM20 335 type is a great instrument.

He said his budget was 5K,if you can find a Le Grand for that price please point me to it.

Looks and sounds just great Fred, enjoy that one! I still regret not buying a non cut prewar Super retrofitted w a CC many moons ago I think it was...

How many T-shirts do I need to buy to get the bonus electric guitar?

For one day of research these campellones look really really nice. How do you pronounce it?

Yup In my limited experiences most of the L5s made in the last 60 years or so were meant to be electric guitars and good acoustic properties...

Would people calling it genocide call Mexican cartels terrorists?

There are plenty of used Peerless archtop guitars for sale online, including guitars they made for Ibanez, Gretsch, et. al., 20 years ago or so.

Give a look to a L4CES! To me, most undervalued high-end instrument. Maybe not beating and L5 burt veeeery close and with a warmer tone. Just my 2...

Wynton Marsalis is one of the most articulate commentators on this subject: Wynton Marsalis on “Teaching Young People About Jazz” - National Press...

No pissing match and no one said an L-5 is better than anything else, but you still didn't answer the "how" question I proposed . A Campellone may...

If youre settled on an L-5 and acoustic tone is what you're after an L-5C w a floating p.u. would be the ticket. If you like the sound of a built in...

Back when I made a living off of selling music equipment, this was my favourite bass amplifier. It's loud enough for club gigs, I ended up getting a...

I'd already be happy if feminists figured that out, but no, most will tell you that negating your femininity by wearing a veil is something that can...

I guess you already know that a used L5 is more like $7.5K in the current market. That being said, if you want and actual acoustic tone, a Gibson L5...

"Better how"? Campellone makes a better guitar for starters, Im not looking for another pissing match with the L5 cult but after hearing hundreds of...

very true and a point you won't often see!

Musicians are like service workers. We provide a service. Social workers too. I have no interest in Kid Rock or Taylor Swift. P Diddy is in no...

I've never heard Wes' sound from anything other than an L-5. Not that I've heard it tried on a number of guitars. I think some of this is...

I had a es175 for years which I regrettably sold. What I am looking for in the L5 is the longer scale and better acoustic tone. I will be playing it...

"What beats an L-5" in what way? Playing feel? Tone? Resale value? In terms of holding resale value, almost nothing other than a D'Angelico or...

'Better' how? You might be able to get a luthier made guitar that's a little more precisely made. But I'll bet if you ask someone like Mark...

Back when (yes..black & white TV!) Dr. Billy Taylor had a show and would take the Jazz Mobile out to show/teach people about "jazz" for me it...

The L5s being worshipped here are fine guitars culled out by top players after having a lot of guitar experience (see if any of the owners here would...

I've never played one but I'm assuming they're a less blinged regular L-5, so essentially the same guitar. My thought is, if you're settled on an...

"If you were to try and communicate to a non-jazz audience why an improvised line or lick works/sounds good, how would you go about it?" That is...

Depends what kind of Islam. If it's Wahhabism, the kind of Islam found in places such as Saudi Arabia which those American and European liberals and...

Are L5 studios a good buy?

I know. Lyrics are of little consequence in what she spins. I say musicians have rights. I don't care who she is. I don't listen to her because of...

Here's a couple Moore :cool: shots of Oscar w his early D'Angelico Note the late 30s Kluson Sealfast tuners. I'm not certain if he ordered the...

I would just drop the FX. The room has natural reverb.

I’d be tempted to compare a bop solo to a Bach solo violin partita and explore the similarities and differences…. But that’s probably a bit...

None/yes

Alas - In my hesitation the instrument was sold when I last refreshed it! There will be more PM20s in the future (hopefully in better condition), I...

Not unusual. You’ll probably have to spend a fair amount of time defining basic terms, so I’d say keep it simple. Even then you might find it...

What are the years of L-5 that I should avoid while I'm shopping? Or is it a myth that certain years are consistently poor?

Nothing. You might be able to find something you like as much or better, or a guitar that may suit your needs better, but nothing beats an L-5....