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Today, 02:42 AM
because noodling around in the general scale is not the same as expressing changes. You should be able to spell out the changes in your lines without...
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Today, 01:23 AM
Studying on your own is a given. Without that you'll make zero progress. If you can play live, you should. If you can take lessons, you should.
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Today, 12:56 AM
Thank you very much.
Best
Kris
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Today, 12:51 AM
Any learning is good. Whether with a good teacher or with good educational materials.
It all depends on you and your commitment.Nowadays, there are...
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Today, 12:27 AM
Very interesting!
I absolutely love the idea of creating a compendium of short licks and phrases that can be shared and utilized by fellow jazz...
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Today, 12:15 AM
I would recommend giving roundwound strings a try and see how they sound and feel on your 2007 LeGrand. It's an opportunity to explore different...
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Today, 12:08 AM
Hank's playing has undoubtedly left an indelible mark on jazz guitar and continues to inspire musicians to this day.
Thank you for sharing your...
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Yesterday, 11:51 PM
If you prefer a smoother application with fewer brush marks, you might opt for a brush with softer natural bristles, such as squirrel or ox hair.
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Yesterday, 11:11 PM
Like syrup of ipecac for my ears and eyes. I only listen to electronic music after the gig while I"m waiting for the check.....
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Yesterday, 10:14 PM
I'd reframe that and say that it's a good idea to know the chord tones of the chords you're playing over.
It's also a good idea to know the...
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Yesterday, 09:40 PM
It´s an awesome guitar! The difficulty has been finding a case for it. Anybody have any recommendations?
We are talking 2 hundred plus to order the...
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Yesterday, 09:37 PM
I’d love to find someone in my area who has a Polytone that I could borrow for a couple days, to see how close I can come to it with the Katana. I...
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Yesterday, 09:36 PM
Studying with a good to reasonable teacher is always better than dicking around on your own. If you have the time and money you should do it. It...
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Yesterday, 09:28 PM
I have a very expensive set of badger hair brushes that I used for brushing lacquer. This was a long time ago so there are likely some equivalent...
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Yesterday, 09:02 PM
If you are buying, talk them down as much as you can. If selling, it looks more like a finish issue near the glue line; if it is stable, probably no...
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Yesterday, 08:40 PM
The crack along the glue line might suggest a neck angle shift. One thing I'd check is the saddle height assuming the action is reasonable.
I don't...
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Yesterday, 08:32 PM
New Ilya video is out.
KILLER STUFF!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4buU7xRW31Y&t=177s
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Yesterday, 08:29 PM
I went thru a big pick search before going all in on fingerstyle…still use a pick occasionally tho. The golden gates were my second favorite out of...
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Yesterday, 08:26 PM
Thinking about purchasing a used ES-175
should I be concerned about this crack and location
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Yesterday, 08:15 PM
Jimmy Bruno endlessly admires Hank Garland.
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Yesterday, 07:56 PM
Update on the Golden Gate MP 12 investigation.
Heard from Matt at Strings By Mail. (I ordered four picks from them to see how they were. In case...
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Yesterday, 07:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_tQid7FcY0
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Yesterday, 07:41 PM
This is a great overdrive pedal if anyone is looking for one. GLWTS!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yesterday, 07:40 PM
Yeah a lot of it is stylistic. It’s one of those things where people say “I’m doing it right, but it doesn’t sound like jazz.” Stylistically jazz...
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Yesterday, 07:39 PM
ahhhh...Zappa lives..!!
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Yesterday, 07:30 PM
I’m glad you pointed out the sports angle in the US. In many regions American football is considered more important than the basics. I think the only...
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Yesterday, 07:25 PM
I dig electronic music
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Yesterday, 07:21 PM
Yes, always amplified, thank you.
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Yesterday, 07:17 PM
I love a IV to iv to I and using the 7th (not the b7) over the m7 chord. F# on the Gm7 chord in this instance. And then, resolving from the b3 of the...
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Yesterday, 07:16 PM
You could always just dig in with Steve Khan's Wes Montgomery trascriptions book.
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Yesterday, 07:00 PM
If you are always playing amplified, you might prefer flats to rounds, but if you are playing acoustically, try a bunch of different roundwound...
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Yesterday, 06:49 PM
Yours is intense. With intense vibe. All vibe.... damn. so viby music.
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Yesterday, 06:43 PM
I think that's pretty generic electronic music, really.
It is sweet. Makes you think bout nothing. Best type.
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Yesterday, 06:41 PM
Super hip. It does feel kind of like Souped-Up-Charlie-Christian … but then he kind of sounds about forty years ahead of himself sometimes too.
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Yesterday, 06:36 PM
Here an answer, do you feel like having a headache ?
It's a little more interesting at 3.00 !
That was years ago, I understand why I don't play it...
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Yesterday, 06:33 PM
I think that's pretty generic electronic music, really.
If you want gunpowder, here's a cannon.
And on the topic of electronic music,...
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Yesterday, 06:16 PM
Great guitars, i have a 2022 Lorraine. its my main guitar for jazz, i want another someday but a different model of Moffa, maybe Larrisa or a single...
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Yesterday, 06:15 PM
Because jazz is about playing the changes whether you're playing chords or melody. Part of soloing in jazz does utilize key centers whether major,...
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Yesterday, 06:14 PM
Lick compendium #1
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Yesterday, 06:07 PM
OK - I'm admitting it: I'm not an effects guy. I've tried to love them, but it's never happened. The Wampler Tumnus Deluxe is as close as I've ever...
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Yesterday, 06:06 PM
I'm sure a teacher would be great if I ever found a good one after decades of spending time in a small room with various instructors who waste my...
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Yesterday, 05:58 PM
Hey Christian.
I watched the video and I’m wondering why one should learn arpeggios for Dm G7 CM7 when the C major scale covers it all.
I know...
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Yesterday, 05:58 PM
I would put Thomastik Benson Roundwounds on that guitar.Every guitar is different even one's of the same make.The only way to know is to try...
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Yesterday, 05:51 PM
https://youtu.be/D6-7gZFPvV0?t=1670
It is a random nice electronic track with teeth and a nice note here and there. Someone had a nice idea and went...
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Yesterday, 05:44 PM
I started with TI 12 Flats on a 2007 LeGrand and wondering if I should switch out to a Round set, same gauge. Maybe round wounds are more suited for...
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Yesterday, 05:34 PM
Watching this vid sure takes me back to my first guitar, a $100. Greco, and those four guys from Liverpool on the Ed Sullivan Show.
No...
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Yesterday, 05:12 PM
PRICE DROP - $85 plus shipping takes it. This is one of the best and most versatile preamp & multiFX pedals out there. It's solid as a tank, quiet,...
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Yesterday, 05:08 PM
Here's one I use as part of a Latin tune I composed good for
any bVI-V-im7 where the style is "Latin" or old style "Fusion"
For tunes with this...
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Yesterday, 05:08 PM
this should be posted under Improvisation
From just the few examples given there are many great ideas to cross harmonic lines
using basic...
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Yesterday, 04:56 PM
Lol, im fine with watching someone else for 6 minutes...just not myself.
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Yesterday, 04:48 PM
He always sings better when he's not trying to be heard over a rock band.
Got time for a little game of Name That Archtop?
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Yesterday, 04:36 PM
Mine was a brisk six minutes. What more do you want?
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Yesterday, 04:22 PM
I have a DV Mark Jazz head, which I believe is pretty much the same amp in the Little Jazz. Most of the time I keep it plugged into the 2 x 8 cabinet...
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Yesterday, 04:21 PM
Speaking of great players and does it get any better, I decided to go back to Hank. Spent yesterday listening to and playing along with his classic...
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Yesterday, 03:59 PM
I'm with sgosnell in my enjoyment of the LJ. I've been using it for almost everything, including playing with two different 19 piece big bands. All...
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Yesterday, 03:52 PM
Nick Costley-White performs Rodgers and Hart's 'Manhattan' from his forthcoming standards EP.
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Yesterday, 03:47 PM
I'm going to try and do a bunch, very quick vids though. You know me and brevity:)
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Yesterday, 03:44 PM
The best busking guitarist I've seen in Bath was Mike Britton. World class.
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Yesterday, 03:36 PM
I forgot it was Soikkeli in that Choro video. My mate/the bass player in my quartet did a gig with him the other week, said the tempos were entirely...
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Yesterday, 03:33 PM
Nice idea. Don’t know if I’ll have time, but look forward to seeing what people post
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Yesterday, 03:21 PM
Thanks everyone. I do tend to put my amps on stands because that helps mitigate a lot of the boominess issues I run into. Still not sure if I’m going...
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Yesterday, 03:17 PM
I use a Raezor's Edge Twin 8 made by Rich from 1999 I think or close to that year. I use it with a AI Clarus R2 and it delivers great sound...
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Yesterday, 03:13 PM
Yes, find a like minded Guitar Jazzer, then form a duo, learn some songs. Then get out and play anywhere that will have you.
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Yesterday, 03:08 PM
This is a very good idea, I hope many members post their fav licks, so that I can steal them and pretend that they are my own. Only joking.
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Yesterday, 03:07 PM
Nice post - thanks for sharing!
Just to add to this. I actually got to play one of these a couple of weeks ago (although with a humbucker, not a...
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Yesterday, 02:56 PM
My thing with transcriptions is, once I learn them and can play them with the CD, I try to stay with them for at least a month. Play the licks, play...
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Yesterday, 02:51 PM
I have a Victoria 518, it's the Fender Champ version. Great amp, complex voice, slightly bigger cabinet than the fender ones, so it sounds a bit...
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Yesterday, 02:35 PM
Go for a Stealth 10 with the blackface head. I also found the Twin 8 Boomy. I have used my Stealth 10 with my Quilter head and it sounds amazing....
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Yesterday, 02:32 PM
I have a club deluxe and it's a great amp. It's got plenty of volume, I've gigged with it quite a bit in a pop rock band and I've never had to turn...
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Yesterday, 02:30 PM
I would love to play tight chord voicings like you could in M3. And learn everything in 3 fingerings instead 9.
Yet... once it is "done" with guitar...
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Yesterday, 02:22 PM
I was trying. But I’m bad at it. :highly_amused:
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Yesterday, 02:20 PM
Sorry, thought you were being facetious. I certainly was. :)
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Yesterday, 02:17 PM
Quite. I guess TG is just being a bit click-baity with these videos ...
(2) Olli Soikkeli's Amazing Alternate Picking - feat. Cesar Garabini -...
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Yesterday, 02:16 PM
I meant from the start. The hard start, I got my instrument today. Mostly being smart.
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Yesterday, 02:03 PM
I would think a screen grab and just upload as an image would work. I might go really old school and write it out and take a photo:)
If I post...
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Yesterday, 01:58 PM
Very fun idea, could have more potential than a lot of the study group threads.
is there a way to upload notation?
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Yesterday, 01:53 PM
And we are off and running. Cool!
And anybody else who wants to join, do it however you want-- explain a bunch or a little. The only point is lick...
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Yesterday, 01:49 PM
Well there ‘tis
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Yesterday, 01:32 PM
Cool! The idea dawned on me as I was trying to think of some of my favorite CC licks...and then I couldn't remember if they were actual CC licks, or...
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Yesterday, 01:31 PM
Oh man I love this. I just recorded a …… Charlie Christian one …… maybe I’ll post here instead.
This is a great idea.
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Yesterday, 01:30 PM
I had an RE Twin 8 and would suggest that the Fender AB 763 might exaggerate the already boomy quality of the twin 8. Just one person’s...
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Yesterday, 01:29 PM
I have looked at that amp a number of times and would love to try one out. On paper it sounds like the perfect jazz amp for small gigs. It's...
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Yesterday, 01:24 PM
believe it or not this is not the first time I’ve heard jazz and CS compared. One jazz edu paper I read cited another for a concept ‘stolen...
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Yesterday, 01:23 PM
Yep, that's a point that TG also makes. The notion that there is one all powerful technique to "pick anything" is a fool's errand.
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Yesterday, 01:23 PM
I have a Rich Razer built Twin 8 From the way back and used it for a good number of years with an Acoustic Image Clarus head until I got a 2009 era...
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Yesterday, 01:20 PM
Agreed. But for giggles, listen to Lester Young solos at 1.5x speed.
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Yesterday, 01:16 PM
Ok, a new mini-project for the summer. A thread that is a compendium of short licks and phrases, from anybody who wants to contribute. Simply state...
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Yesterday, 01:15 PM
Music education in the US, at least, is affected by how education in general is funded and thus administered, and those, in turn, are affected by...
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Yesterday, 01:11 PM
Yes, if the kid doesn’t grab on there’s no need to force it. But if they do…
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Yesterday, 01:09 PM
I think the language became a bit more dense and decorative. Parker moved the ball down the field for sure.
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Yesterday, 01:05 PM
Something that's been staring me in the face, but I couldn't see until this morning:
Cº7 = D#º7 = F#º7 = Aº7
These four chords are,...
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Yesterday, 12:45 PM
Just heard about a kid who was my son's buddy when they were younger, whose parents pushed to play tennis so he would become a pro. Now 17, he quit...
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Yesterday, 12:41 PM
There are two basic considerations when determining the proper neck set height/angle - you need the correct angle to achieve (1) a bridge height...
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Yesterday, 12:36 PM
The looper : practice, assimilate tunes, listening to what I play, how to comp, voicings. It helped me a lot. It really changed my life and I'm not...
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Yesterday, 12:27 PM
Yeah, funny thing about that - Gibson has gone back and forth with that policy over the years - I recall a time when they charged extra for sunburst...
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Yesterday, 12:26 PM
How did the looper change your guitar playing? Also in the context of freeing yourself from positions and formulas?
(Of course the looper is a...
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Yesterday, 12:19 PM
C MAJOR continued
Line 7 -Bar 1:
Beats 1 & 2 - Fmaj7 arpeggio (pivot)
Beats 3 & 4 - Scale
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Yesterday, 12:18 PM
Standard responses would be;
A1: From swing, and blues.
A2: From bop, and blues.
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Yesterday, 12:14 PM
Nu-uh. Mickey Baker.
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Yesterday, 12:12 PM
Yes, you get it that's it !
People who play with positions and formulas get lost very quickly.
Two things changed my guitar playing, the melodica...
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Yesterday, 12:09 PM
Anyone have any experience pairing a Raezer’s Edge Twin 8 with a blackface era Fender or similar clone? I have an AB763 Twin Reverb in a head cab and...
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Yesterday, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD59vzmhW0c
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Yesterday, 12:00 PM
I didn't realize this was the soundtrack from the streaming movie from 2021. The son of a friend of mine was involved in the production. Not sure...
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Yesterday, 11:54 AM
That looks nice, and I have owned a Victoria Tweed Twin, which was great.
There are many amp companies building Deluxe Reverb variants, including...
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Yesterday, 11:46 AM
All language education (and music is indeed language) benefits enormously from an early start. The earlier the better. It’s so much easier for a...
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Yesterday, 11:41 AM
One more opinion (you know what they say about opinions ...): I do not think it's possible to learn to play jazz without interacting in person with...
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Yesterday, 11:36 AM
More snappy and more responsive sounds like a solid body or semi-solid body guitar would be what you want.
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Yesterday, 11:35 AM
Michael Brecker's own practice notebooks beautifully re-engraved.
https://www.shermusic.com/9780991077359.php
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Yesterday, 11:33 AM
I do believe the tongue gap is to prevent fretboard tail rise.
There is a substantial neck joint underneath.
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Yesterday, 11:29 AM
I would guess that technique and setup are the primary influences. Steel string electrics require a different technique than classicals with nylon...
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Yesterday, 11:28 AM
ha yes I was just making that up, as you say there’s a bit of the miller’s tale there. But I think Chaucer should have written a busker’s tale!
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Yesterday, 11:26 AM
I want to use a hand brush using nitrocellulose guitar paint. My question is:
What type of 'hair' on the brush would produce the best finish?
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Yesterday, 11:20 AM
Greg Ruggiero has a demo of a Grote hollowbody, maybe more, on YouTube. He's a New York jazz guitarist, relatively well known, who doesn't just post...
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Yesterday, 11:07 AM
For bedroom playing, the internal speaker of the Little Jazz is more than loud enough, and sounds very good. That's where I mostly play mine. I...
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Yesterday, 10:50 AM
Thanks Mark, as always.
Then, how did you arrive at that neck joint height dimension - meaning the height of the f/b above the guitar body ? We'd...
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Yesterday, 10:47 AM
In that range, you could get a DV Mark Jazz, which would be exactly what you want sound-wise, take up no more space than an extension cabinet, and...
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Yesterday, 10:47 AM
Thanks Joe, it's that old issue of tone of voice you don't get on the Internet, and Hammer was right, it's more orange/red than you might normally...
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Yesterday, 10:47 AM
I have played a few Victoria amps. Wow. However, the price and quality match each other. They have a reputation of making the best boutique fender...
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Yesterday, 10:44 AM
I am wanting to learn the style of country blues guitar. I am quite knowledgeable about the guitar but country blues guitar is new to me.
Can you...
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Yesterday, 10:43 AM
Cool. I had checked in on that thread and it seemed like there was a lot of people saying-- "oh, this stuff is already available on the internet" and...
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Yesterday, 10:43 AM
When I go searching for new speakers, I have to narrow it down to what type of sound do I want. I have to also consider what I want the sound to do....
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Yesterday, 10:42 AM
Bob, You always purchase some beautiful and interesting instruments and I'm sure this will not be the exception but I'm really impressed with Mr....
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Yesterday, 10:41 AM
Any comments on this amp?
Any experience with Victoria amps?
Looks like a Fender Deluxe reverb for the most part without tremolo and without...
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Yesterday, 10:41 AM
I bet you're talking about OO design patterns, lol. There is a good analogy between OO design patterns in programming and chord-scales in jazz. CS...
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Yesterday, 10:38 AM
Literally just revived that Charlie Christian thread two hours ago.
Charlie Christian transcription group
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Yesterday, 10:34 AM
The Holy Grail jazz box.
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Yesterday, 10:31 AM
I'd really have to know where you were at currently, but I really do believe that if you spend some time with Charlie and get an understanding of how...
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Yesterday, 10:27 AM
A sunburst finish is a ton more work then natural.
I often wondered why Gibson charges way more for blonde.
It should be the opposite IMO. More...
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Yesterday, 10:27 AM
I'd go as far as to say if I needed a picture of a "jazz guitar" to put into an encyclopedia, I might pick this one.
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Yesterday, 10:26 AM
Thanks all, some good advice
Have just been thinking about goal setting and I am not very good at it. Partly due to being all over the place with...
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Yesterday, 10:24 AM
Drooling over that last shot in the case. GLWTS
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Yesterday, 10:18 AM
Mel Bay book 1
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Yesterday, 10:10 AM
There's that push and pull of "I'm gonna have you take piano lessons, even though you might not like it, because it'll be good for you" and "I don't...
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Yesterday, 10:05 AM
I think the question then becomes...how different is bebop, really?
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Yesterday, 10:00 AM
When it comes to a lot of things, but especially music, I think that the European way of starting kids young works best - by far. American parents...
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Yesterday, 09:56 AM
Where did the folks who created bop start? Where did the folks who created post-bop start?
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Yesterday, 09:54 AM
Ah, I see. So many players playing Bebop after him makes me overlook that a bit. Joe Pass - and his contributions to jazz guitar instruction -...
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Yesterday, 09:54 AM
I don’t know man. You didn’t see what that dining hall pepperoni pizza looked like by the time I got it back to the practice rooms in those wet...
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Yesterday, 09:51 AM
Sure, but I don't mean quoting or referencing...I mean the whole approach. Chord tones, enclosures, chromatics, shape based playing...people think...
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Yesterday, 09:51 AM
I don't think it's the best system tbh, but it is the same everywhere I expect.
I suppose on the other hand we can't expect students these days...
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Yesterday, 09:40 AM
Yeah, a lot of people still reference Charlie Christian in their solos, because it swings, it's energetic, and just plain old infectious fun.
Back...
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Yesterday, 09:31 AM
Hey Maaj12...
There is no magic, get a teacher that can teach you technique as mentioned by Mr. B. and sight reading.
Playing and...
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Yesterday, 09:30 AM
I would triple down on that. "Jazz" is pretty big by now, and there are periods and styles. Trad, Swing, Bebop, Post-Bop, Fusion, Modern (whatever...
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Yesterday, 09:26 AM
Yep!
And obviously, as with Jim, you don't have to stop there. But man, there is so much value in starting there.
I get it though, people want...
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