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Just easier to come up with good voicings without worrying about the drops too. That C G B E for Am7 could go to C F# B E and I wouldn’t have...

Drop voicings kind of sound bad for comping a lot of the time as well... Especially drop 2s

Tal this might be a good time to point out that the “drop” naming conventions literally describe the process by which someone arrives at the voicing....

I think you are conflating the concept of a "voicing" with the process of coming up with a "voicing". The resulting voicing is called drop2, not...

I wouldn't say that non-shell voicings in Ed Bickert's comping are "occasional" (see the transcription above for example). It seems like what you are...

yeah, just like guitar ;) otoh there are gazillion of chess books (and unlike guitarbooks many are actually useful), there are nice chess sets,...

Not going to watch the video right now but literally every chord in the first twelve measures (or the thumbnail) is a shell. Low note and a third or...

Shell or “rootless shell” is a pretty normal way of talking about these voicings. There is overlap with drop two voicings when you get up to four...

It sounds like it's a terminology issue. So the very basic rootless C9 voicing x 8 7 8 7 x is also a shell voicing? To me that's a drop2,...

Thank you for your friendly, well thought out, and clearly expressed explanation. You offered more than basic support for your opinion and based it...

Rootless shells. 3 7 and something on top.

Maybe we have a different definition of shell voicings. The shell voicing are root, third and 7th.

He used LOADS of rootless shell voicings. Basically anything he played that was more than two notes.

A lot of what Ed Bickert did weren't shell voicings. His comping involved harmonized lines with rootless voicings and lots of movements inside...

I use(d) a whiteboard marker to outline the position of the bridge. The line(s) can be effectively minimized and, anyway, will readily come off...

Apologies - I didn't want to cause a fight :) I was giving my perspective as someone who is (relatively) on top of the trends in academic literature...

I remember a book called 'Melodic Structures', you had to know your scale intervals inside out. The book then used permutations of these scale...

I've commissioned the build of more acoustic archtop, hopefully this will my last guitar,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, until the...

1st+7th+3rd(10th) voicings are all you really need for comping in a guitar duo. IMHO. :encouragement: Maybe, 1st+6th+3rd as well.

I write a 'T' on the treble side underneath the bridge. It avoids confusion when putting the bridge back..

They had us use this book for our first semester at Uni. It was different to any other approach. I was told by one lecturer that if you stick with...

I wouldn't say muddy but dark sounding. Which wouldn't have bothered me as much as the lack of character, I always found them a little too neutral,...

this thread is Russian disinformation. https://youtu.be/GLBTSrD42QY?feature=shared https://youtu.be/1ueLvp3pUM0?feature=shared ...

Don't underestimate water and a very soft cloth like cotton flannel for cleaning guitars.

Thinking about things I've learned from jazz guitarists I have had some educational contact with, which may be apropos here: Jimmy Bruno:...

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'd probably think of these more as ear training and brain exercises anyway. The goal isn't...

Yeah but on minor chords it's 5 7 8 9. And the permutations on minor 7b5 chords or altered chords get kinda wacky. It is hard to visualize. b5 7 8...

Youre clearly not up on your Ed Bickert

I truly don't understand why anyone would waste their time working on shell voicings though. Seems to me there are so many more fruitful things a...

Just came across this L5CT while surfing the Google across the country... unfortunately states no shipping. Perhaps your in the area. Gibson L5...

So, by 5 6 7 9, we're talking about a 1 2 3 5 pattern from the fifth of each chord? So the same pattern and the issue is the mental connection...

Here's a couple I found on the Google machine... The listings are a bit old, but you never know. Gibson ES-140T 3/4 - 1960's - musical...

I saw Pasquale Grasso play with a bass player who sounded EXACTLY like Paul Chambers with the bow. It was interesting. I think for whatever reason...

Hahahaha, love it! Believe it or not I had a similar experience 2 weeks ago. I finally found a buyer for my last Tumnus Germanium, the meet was...

IME, the Virtuoso cleaner works pretty well, used sparingly and with judgement. It can be a little abrasive if rubbed heavily in liberal quantities,...

I don’t need anything else. Every guitar I own fills a niche in my playing interests and all are really fine instruments. I will be retired in a...

Hmm, the Amazon reviews of the cleaner would've prompted me to keep looking, although there are not many of them and I do take AMZN reviews with a...

Tunes, tunes, tunes, and by that I mean jazz standards right out of the Real Book, etc. Every tune has its own interesting harmonic and melodic...

So smooth! Yeah, I came across this guy while searching for a guitar version of Salt Peanuts after seeing Pasquale play it. Didn't remember his...

I just bought a great 1966 Fender Super Reverb. OK, not a guitar, but same principle. Anybody want to buy a Tele and a Strat?

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A Dearmond 1000 or 1100 will get you some of the way there and really suit that beautiful guitar. I'm lucky to have two Biltoft floating CC...

All my cables are custom made Mogami Platimum (nice and thick) and they told me to avoid the silent jacks as they fail a lot apparently.

I do that with Pat Martino linear expressions every now and then. But I don't think of the lines as "minor material". I don't even think of them as...

I’ve started zeroing in on just minor ideas. Stuff I’m raiding from some of my old Grant Green solos and putting it over all the changes to tunes I’m...

Some nights don't get below 30C here, and it has been that way since May. Any day below 32C is unusually cool. But at least it's a moist heat. ...

I also prefer to take all the strings off and wipe and clean the fingerboard, do minor fret polishing as needed, and generally look things over. ...

Bump this thread. Seems I'm back to where I was last time I posted on this thread - trying to cop some thumb-finger motion + economy picking...

Jostein Gulbrandsen is another great exponent of this technique. https://youtu.be/nFk339R0Qyw?si=gUQxbDyGOvhAqw9Z

I actually prefer the type where the holes don't go all the way through. The holes, whether or not the posts stick above the, can be uncomfortable...

They’re great amps! High clean headroom and very dynamic. I would say they’re more revealing than a Fender clean as they are generally less...

I have some Planet Waves cables with the compression rings on the plugs. I thought they were a good idea at the time but they can be a PITA. I don't...

Yes, I've been in contact with Masaki from Walkin' already and the AT 105 Jr. is probably what I will go with if I can't find an ES 140. The Archtop...

Weekend Bump 8.0

;-) I especially like the use of shrink tube, look really neat.

Aparently not.. they grip your cable jack real hard.. maybe too hard for some. So we used a standard jack socket instead. If the cable ever got...

Honey of course! It's the real thing. Or maybe just paper and oil. :amen:

:smile-new: I bought one of these not long ago -- Amazon.co.jp The first time I changed the strings I took the metal bridge off to clean the...

It’s not like that on Chicago Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace.

A lot has happened since the start of this thread in early April. Trump this, Trump that, Trump TACO etc. Two things worth pointing out. 1) USA...

Excellent idea. :eagerness::eagerness: Edit: You're correct and there are less expensive hobbies, for example Chess. I'll only need to buy a cheap...

So you’re paying for convenience on those sites — I’m not entirely sure that’s unreasonable. Another thing is that I’ve had some weird experiences...

Pricing on gear bought/sold locally through craigslist is still running in the 60-70 percent range of new. Reverb/Ebay have a semi choke hold on the...

If I make an offer than offends a seller, that is his problem, not mine. If someone makes me an offer that I think is absurdly low, I either ignore...

This is an interesting and timely conversation, and I've been following it on and off since it started. It has drifted from the topic of...

Finally! Someone with the courage to say what has been in the hearts of many.

Here are some points to understand. If the intonation is correct, then you can use masking tape to tape bridge in place and change strings all at...

I gig out with a 20 year old '05 Eastman John Pisano 880. The scary thing is that 2005 was 20 years ago! I bought a 7 string from Gordon around 2000,...

I put two short lengths of 3M #8402 polyester tape (aka "artist's tape" or "draftsman's tape") over the feet of the bridge to hold it in place when I...

Yeah, put me down as either an "All 3" or a "None Of The Above" I have enough guitars. Arguably too many. But if I came a cross one of a small...

I've seen many 20 year old Eastmans for sale.The problem with those older Eastmans is you have an equal chance of getting a stud or a dud tonally...

Pretty sure that 60% metric is outdated.

This is what I'm talking about. Going rate is still 60 percent of new value even if you never laid a finger on the guitar. Offers are going to be...

The Covid buying craze skewed the prices of everything but things are coming back towards normal.It's taking awhile for people to come to the...

Used gear is worth whatever a buyer is willing to pay for it. Free advertising let's people ask stupid prices. Smart buyers don't pay stupid prices....

It can very well be new and unused. Reverb forces sellers to list items as used unless they are authorized dealers and able to provide manufacturer...

I discovered Eastman guitars when Ed Roman opened what he called “the world’s biggest guitar store” in Las Vegas (in spring 2001 IIRC, months before...

Funny thing is sellers have the notion that a buyer is internet savvy enough to find sales ads, but not enough to find a decent price list. If you...

This ^^^^. If the potential buyer doesn't like the asking price, either make an offer or move on. Sometimes things in life can be simple. Best to...

Thanks for clearing that up. Bending the string only matters on vintage split shaft tuners like on a Fender, and you have to bend the string...

This is a bit embarassing, but I recently took my Gibson Citation in to St. Paul Guitar Repair to have them go over it and tune it up (not getting it...

Locking Machine Heads for me nowadays. :encouragement:

I'm with you LJ - the authentic look! ps Don't use posts with Allen sockets in the top!!!

Is there any merit in the multi contact jack socket?

You mean holes for the posts on top of the bridge? I have actually done that to my aftermarket ES-125 bridge to make it look more authentic. I also...

I bought an SGJ 2013 model in 2014 new. It's the stripped down version which a lot of people seem to hate (the finish and the 490s in emg looking...

That looks very well: very tidy and neat. Just curious to see what’s inside that bumblebee…… but maybe we shouldn’t open that can of worms...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QNeJHZYEiY&ab_channel=Stringjoy There's only a few wraps on the post (string length is about 1.5 inches past the...

What you talking about a bend in the strings? Also, not trying to argue, but if you need a string winder you might be using too many wraps. You...

Did a gig acoustically last week and my Fender medium lasted about two songs. I’m a basher I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I still don’t like F truth be told Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Stop being a musician. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

People can ask what they want. Thankfully. No one is obliged to anything. High asking prices never irk me. I don’t sell much myself but whenever I...

I can trade for another guitar as well (in EU) in the same price or higher (I will pay the difference in price).

A dealer in Auckland is offering a Brand New Fender Vintera '70s Telecaster Custom at four hundred NZ bucks more than retail. But wait – there's...

I have also used the direct out of the mambo into different PA's and experienced the same as you - on some it sounded better than on others. But...

The Schaller humbuckers that my c. 1990 Heritage 150 came with were very nice and not all muddy. I have a clip somewhere to prove it.

But, the "Fender Tone Master Twin" is a great sounding amp, the two speakers add more resonance than a single speaker, IMHO. :eagerness:

Wow, such a beautifully looking and wonderfully designed guitar, I regret not buying the 7 string "El Rey" 15-20 years ago. :eagerness: But, I was...

But, only every 6 months. :highly_amused:

I don"t see a problem in that... I play as it is written.:smile-new:

Totally agree with your statement: "you'd have to be narrow minded to not respect his uniqueness, creativity and technique." :eagerness:

Actually it depends on the strings. 1st and 2nd strings are together, like C/G, Bb/F, etc. 2nd and 3rd they're separated, 3rd and 4th they're...

I've never played a barre chord since playing in a 1970-80's Punk Rock band. :redface-new:

I barred for some and separated for others. As I said before, if they're triplets they should sound like it. The fourths cover the end/beginning of...

Separate fingers can be clearer for articulation and this can be worth the effort. But despite practicing this for ages I still bar. Ah well,...

There you go, see. No one way to do this stuff. What I'm saying. No one place to do it, either.

Hello IR.. interesting stuff. I'm finding that the more recent low cost modelers from China (e.g. Joyo, Mooer) are better to my very subjective ears...

My browsers: On PC: Firefox + ublock. It takes a few seconds to start videos, but not a serious problem. On Mac: Chrome + ublock. I got my...

Nothing you ever play should hurt (except maybe your ego), if it does, you're doing it wrong. The trick is to roll your finger down to the lower...

I have been forcing myself to play this, and I think it's a possibility that I will be able to play it regularly in the future. Which is great,...

Are you playing those lines in three-note bursts or four-note bursts? Because that makes a difference. Are they supposed to be triplets or groups...

Only two. Firstly the triplet slurs on page 51 which he says 'if you only have time for one left-hand exercise, do this one'. I do each finger...

If you keep playing the same line over and over, the fingering which is natural to you will show itself. Use that. It may not even be the same one...

You're not going to like this (you should but you won't). If it hurts don't play it, find another way. Seriously. Why torture yourself? Use...

Ah, it's the old thing about people believing guitars hold their value and never lose value- and that for guitars like the Gibson L5 the value is...

Just enjoying what I have. Could care less about the rest.

Stanley is an amazing musician who is not staying in the bebop lines, to be sure, but is more creative than most jazz guitarists. And he can play...

Credibility with you holds no value to me. I do not know you and there's approximately nothing at stake. Sorry. Develop the skills and see for...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3JGq_Gx7F0

I don't change mine one at a time. I like to take them all off, wipe things down, clean up the fretboard, treat the board if needed, etc. Then I...

The person playing it can tell the difference if they know what they are doing. Most people don't know what they are doing or they wouldn't be buying...

..BTW, that guitar has one of the prettiest bursts I have ever seen. I’m getting seller’s remorse!

Ordered. Thanks!

If you are putting round-core strings on your guitar, you need to watch a video to make sure you know how to put a bend in the strings. You can't...

That’s it.

You can find a video about practically any subject on YouTube, and this one is no exception. For example: ...

I appreciate your help. Now I can get on with it:) Tim

If that's not in the upcoming Spinal Tap II sequel, it should be.... it might even be worse than this:

The neo-soul/funk/R&B band that I've been playing bass in this past year just called this tune...although they want to play it closer to the Scary...

Digital is better than tubes in a lot of pragmatic areas. And I'm not sure how many of us could pick out which amp is the original tube amp and...

1. No. Change one string at a time. 2. Yes. 3. You're there .

Credibility must be earned. Anyone with a phone or an internet connection can post anything on any forum. And it happens every day. Just saying...

If the desired effect is to have half the chops of Scott Tenant then I guess it never ends. What do you use from the left hand exercises?

Is this it? Cleaner and polish combo pack: Amazon.com Polish only: Amazon.com Cleaner only: Amazon.com

From God, Deacon, we are not sending you to hell but you have to listen to this in Purgatory……….purgatory is not heaven for sure.

Again, do the work or don't. I already did it for you, but you don't find me credible. So be it. I don't feel any obligation to provide you with...