Name of this chord?

[Sebm89]

Hey. what it the name of this chord:


||---|----|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
||---|-8--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
||---|-7--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
||---|-6--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
||---|-5--|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
||---|----|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|



A Dsus with a flat 5? or what?
cuz i tried to find it in some chordsite, but couldnt find it.

And what scale would u use?
whole tone?

Thansk. Christoffer

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

That's not exactly TAB, unless you've got 8 fingers on one hand! I would notate that:

x5678x

Were you just asking this yesterday on the Tele forum? It still depends on the surrounding chords, but I'd go for a E7#9 or a Bb7/6 (or 13th, if you like), both rootless -- I'll let the bass supply the root and fifth.

If you want to add the root yourself, that would be:

x7678x or x5678x : E7#9
6x678x or 65678x : Bb7/6

[Sebm89]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyLoveHandles

That's not exactly TAB, unless you've got 8 fingers on one hand! I would notate that:

x5678x

Were you just asking this yesterday on the Tele forum? It still depends on the surrounding chords, but I'd go for a E7#9 or a Bb7/6 (or 13th, if you like), both rootless -- I'll let the bass supply the root and fifth.

If you want to add the root yourself, that would be:

x7678x or x5678x : E7#9
6x678x or 65678x : Bb7/6

Sorry i didnt ad the x´s, then.
But i always seen em as muted notes
But, yes it wound be x5678x.
I cant see how it can be an E, or a Bb, as long as it got does D´s.?

I no i didnt post this on the tele forum, i dont even own a tele.
Or know that forum

Christoffer

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Originally Posted by Sebm89

But, yes it wound be x5678x.
I cant see how it can be an E, or a Bb, as long as it got does D´s.?

1. If you think of those notes as: D G# D Gnatural(=F##) then those are notes from an E7#9 chord: the D is the 7th, the G# the 3rd, and the Gnatural the #9. You often drop the root and/or fifth from a chord, especially if someone else is playing bass.

2. If you think of those notes as: D Ab D G then those are notes from a Bb7/6 chord: the D is the 3rd, the Ab the 7th, and the G the 6th.

A single group of notes can be assigned many different names -- easily a dozen. The "best" name would require knowing the chords before and after it -- how it fits into the progression.

[Sebm89]

I dont quiet get it? Sorry, but itsnt a chord name just based on it self and its root? I mean, u wouldnt start calling am (or any other chord) something els just becuz its doesnt go in that key?

anyway, i havent really got a progression, i was just messing around in some Am, G thing

Christoffer

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Originally Posted by Sebm89

I dont quiet get it? Sorry, but itsnt a chord name just based on it self and its root? I mean, u wouldnt start calling am (or any other chord) something els just becuz its doesnt go in that key?

anyway, i havent really got a progression, i was just messing around in some Am, G thing

A chord isn't necessarily in root position -- don't assume the bottom note of the chord is the root. The root may even be missing from the chord (very common in jazz chords on guitar).

And a chord can have multiple names. consider the notes E G B D. That could be a Emin7 chord, or a Gmaj6, or a Cmaj9 with a missing root.

Next to an A minor chord would make me call the original grip a E7#9:

x7678x
5x555x

[Sebm89]

Okay. this just made my music theory even more cunfusing.

But thanks dude

Christoffer

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

You're welcome. The fact that a chord can be "ambiguous" is part of the jazz vocabulary. Jazz musicians play musical games with that.

[takefive]

It's one form of a Bb13

[voelker]

Bb13
E7#9
C9b13
F#7#5b9

all rootless

If you have your heart set on it being some sort of D chord, then it can be used to create some movement on a Dm7b5. (Ex. minor 2,5,1, Dm7b5, G7#5b9, Cm) use it in passing to the G7#5b9, after the Dm7b5 sound is established. In this situation, adding the G to the Dm7b5 anticipates the halfstep move to the b9(Ab) on the G7#5b9.

[zonedout245]

G#M7 b5 i would call this. Third omitted, and b5 in the chord and as the base. Weird sound though. Ambiguous chords like this one have many names.

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

It bears repeating: there's little to no point naming this chord in isolation. What matters is how it works in a progression, and I don't think that was ever revealed.

[Chulio]

It can be confusing but do not give up.

The context that the chord fits in is important.

Here is an example

Eb A C F# all these notes are 1 1/2 steps apart so you could call it a
Ebdim7

or Adim7 A C F# Eb
or c dim7 C F# Eb A
or f#dim7 F# Eb A Eb

They all have the same notes but the key will tell you which name it is.
And the lowest note does not have to be the root as stated above.
It actually sounds boring when only root chords are played to me.
With the exception of barre chords

[John Curran]

This voicing is a little weird, what with the doubled D in it. More interesting is it's sister voicing;

X5658X

[mr. beaumont]

Originally Posted by John Curran

This voicing is a little weird, what with the doubled D in it. More interesting is it's sister voicing;

X5658X

love that one john...use it all the time as a -11b5.

[BigDaddyLoveHandles]

Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

love that one john...use it all the time as a -11b5.

Or, to have the major second sound between the 3rd and 4th/11th:

x56563