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01-06-2012, 07:37 AM
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| | I've set up a music theory blog For now it's nothing too intense just so I can get into the swing of things but I though I'd show you guys because you're most likely to give the most (and best) critisicm Music Theories and Findings
I do take requests but not if its another question on how to construct a chord, I don't do the fundamentals. Those resources are all over the net. | 
01-06-2012, 07:53 AM
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| | Interesting. I will check it out and tell you what i think. | 
01-08-2012, 03:13 PM
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| | Is there anything that qualifies you to do this, so we can trust that your information is accurate? I've wasted so much time trying to learn from self professed internet experts, only to find out that they didn't have a solid grasp on what they were presenting. | 
01-08-2012, 06:00 PM
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| | Yes, the basic information is sound, from what I read, though I find it a little cumbersome.
I do find your ending statement in your post a bit odd. Do you get a lot of guys in jazz forums asking you how to construct chords? Requests for what? You also say you do not do fundamentals, isn't that what this information is? That was my take anyway.
I wish you luck. | 
01-14-2012, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by max chill Is there anything that qualifies you to do this, so we can trust that your information is accurate? I've wasted so much time trying to learn from self professed internet experts, only to find out that they didn't have a solid grasp on what they were presenting. | Nothing in particular no, except I hate incorrect information too. All the things I've written about have been referenced from books which are more or less standard for contemporary music
In particular;
Vincent Persichetti's 20th Century harmony
and
Arnold Schoenbergs books
I NEVER write something in the blog I'm unsure of, that's what my book is mostly for. To do working out in (It took me days of frustration to understand the mirror writing)
If you spot any incorrect or misleading info, tell me and it'll be removed/amended. Quote:
Originally Posted by brwnhornet59 Yes, the basic information is sound, from what I read, though I find it a little cumbersome.
I do find your ending statement in your post a bit odd. Do you get a lot of guys in jazz forums asking you how to construct chords? Requests for what? You also say you do not do fundamentals, isn't that what this information is? That was my take anyway.
I wish you luck. | This blog isn't just aimed at jazz guys (however I am doing some pat martino concepts in my book as I'm typing this) and I've shown friends and other forums this and apart from this forum (as hard you might find it to believe  ) people lack the most obvious skill of knowing how to construct a chord.
As for your comment on 'requests for what' I more meant if someone was struggling with a concept then perhaps I could give them a clearer explanation. I have no problem using my time to help others.
I can understand the hostility towards such a blog, usually if I see something similair I'll take everything with a grain of salt.I suggest you do too, after all it's music THEORY not music fact.
Cheers 
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01-14-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Reynolds I have no problem using my time to help others.
I can understand the hostility towards such a blog, usually if I see something similair I'll take everything with a grain of salt.I suggest you do too, after all it's music THEORY not music fact.
Cheers  | Well, helping others is something that we try to do readily and take very seriously here, so if this is your intention I am all about checking you out.
As for a grain of salt? Of course, there is no other way. But I am not a snob who thinks I know everything. I learn by questioning and comparison. I take what I like and leave the rest where I found it.
As for the Martino concepts, feel free to post them, it will get a lot of interest here.
As for the Music theory not music fact, you are the second person I have heard say that of late. Where did you hear that? The last guy who said it was a Berklee grad, just wondered is it is the new catch phrase there.
BTW, are you Joe Reynolds Music on f/b? 
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01-14-2012, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by brwnhornet59 Well, helping others is something that we try to do readily and take very seriously here, so if this is your intention I am all about checking you out.
As for a grain of salt? Of course, there is no other way. But I am not a snob who thinks I know everything. I learn by questioning and comparison. I take what I like and leave the rest where I found it.
As for the Martino concepts, feel free to post them, it will get a lot of interest here.
As for the Music theory not music fact, you are the second person I have heard say that of late. Where did you hear that? The last guy who said it was a Berklee grad, just wondered is it is the new catch phrase there.
BTW, are you Joe Reynolds Music on f/b?  | I didn't hear the music theory,fact thing anywhere, it's just kind of obvious 
I can assure you I'm not a berklee grad
The Martino Concept is minorisation, I'll be scanning it in later on tonight
and lastly no I'm not Joe Reynolds' music (I'm a UKer, Wales to be specific) but I will check him out since he has my name  | 
01-14-2012, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Reynolds I didn't hear the music theory,fact thing anywhere, it's just kind of obvious
The Martino Concept is minorisation, I'll be scanning it in later on tonight
no I'm not Joe Reynolds' music (I'm a UKer, Wales to be specific) but I will check him out since he has my name | Obvious? sure, but it is rarely said around here or in the circle of people I know, so when I hear it twice in several days, the obvious leads to the obvious question.
Cool, I will check it out.
Yes, I found you.
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01-20-2012, 11:56 PM
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| | Joe,
Since you've stated that you are aiming for accuracy in your blog posts, I'll point out that the minorization concept is not original to Pat Martino.
Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie and the other bebop pioneers were using it in the 1940s and it became part of the bebop language. Wes Montgomery was another player who made great use of minorization in the 50s and 60s. This was a well known soloing device that was firmly in place by the time Martino came on the scene.
By using this concept, Martino was able bridge the gap between R&B and jazz by applying his familiar, already internalized R&B vocabulary to jazz tunes.
Regards,
monk | 
01-23-2012, 08:39 AM
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| | Thanks for the clear-up Monk, I couldn't find any evidence of what you were saying but there's not an awful lot of it on the web. I'll just hope your word is a good one
I've amended the post now.
Cheers | 
02-01-2012, 06:22 AM
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| | What caught my eye was your very first post because of the bullet point "Colour Theory and Synesthesia" because I'm a synesthete. I don't really know if it's benefited my learning, but my brain seems to automatically color code things and always in the same way so the colors never change which is nice. Anyways, I hope to see blog posts on this topic, because it fascinates me too | 
02-01-2012, 05:09 PM
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| | Manson is color guy too. He gave each of his girls a color. So I hear. | 
02-02-2012, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Buster Loaf Manson is color guy too. He gave each of his girls a color. So I hear. | Oh dear...  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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