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[pingu]

Thanks for the chords guys !

Originally Posted by Little Jay

|F#m7b5 B7alt | E7alt A7alt |

Can anyone help me understand these changes in relation to the tune ?
I'm having trouble 'hearing' them

I can't suss a good chord-melody for it which doesn't help

Cheers

[JonR]

Originally Posted by pingu

Thanks for the chords guys !



Can anyone help me understand these changes in relation to the tune ?
I'm having trouble 'hearing' them

I can't suss a good chord-melody for it which doesn't help

Cheers

Not sure how to analyse them personally: they're a cycle of 5ths a major 2nd above where one might expect, ie heading for Dm, not Cm.

But here's an idea for chord melody shapes:

 F#m7b5   B7#5#9     E9#11  A7#5#9     Cm(11)
|7--7--7--7--10-----|-----------8-----|-----------
|5-----------8---8--|11-----8------8-7|6-----------
|5-----------8------|11-----10--------|------5--8--
|4-----------7------|12-----11--------|---5-------
|-------------------|-------0---------|----------
|---------7---------|12---------------|8----------
 

The E chord definitely has an F#, btw, it's more like a lydian dominant than a 7alt. (I hear a 13th in the piano chord too.)

I've harmonized the last F with the original bass line.

[pingu]

beautiful ............. thanks man
I'm loving that , also trying this in place of the A7 chord




---8------------------------------------------
8----8--7--6-------------------------------------
7----7--6--5------------------------------------
7----7--6--5------------------------------------
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hmm I like that better I think .......
I guess I'm ignoring the A7 chord really
how does A7 resolve to Cminor anyway ?
it just doesn't to my ears

thanks man

[JonR]

Originally Posted by pingu

beautiful ............. thanks man
I'm loving that , also trying this in place of the A7 chord




---8------------------------------------------
8----8--7--6-------------------------------------
7----7--6--5------------------------------------
7----7--6--5------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------

Sounds good to me.

Originally Posted by pingu

hmm I like that better I think .......
I guess I'm ignoring the A7 chord really
how does A7 resolve to Cminor anyway ?
it just doesn't to my ears

Well, it's definitely weird, but I think it's worth bearing in mind that this is a "post-modal" tune. IOW, it was written after Miles Davis had opened the floodgates - as it were - with "Kind of Blue". Wayne Shorter was one of the most interesting explorers of the new territory that opened up, and his tunes typically contain a mix of functional and modal changes. (Modal changes don't have to "resolve" anywhere.)

However, I think there is some kind of twisted functional logic in those chords. A common alternative to those 2 bars is a simple D7-Db7(#11) (1 bar each). The guide tones of A7 (C#-G) are both in Db7#11 - or G7alt come to that (the usual V chord in C minor). And I think there may be a hint of an F note in that "A7" chord.