Fly Me To The Moon-Interactive prractical/theory group

[fep]

Originally Posted by PaulD

Ok, finally got around to trying this. Here's my attempt...(please no pointing and laughing)

SoundClick artist: Paul DiLorenzo - page with MP3 music downloads

Paul, Great job.

I'm digging the way you,re playing the melody, you really made it your own changing things around, but the melody definately shines thru. Real nice chords melody bits also.

Is that E altered over that first break? Sounds real cool.

And then a whole tone scale later over the Bm7b5 E7... and that's cool too!

And more altered over the Em7 A7...

And the chords (built in 4ths right?) at the end, that open sus sound that makes it 'hang' a bit, very nice.

Thanks, it's great to listen to these different versions and learn from all.

[Reg]

+a million to all great comments... beautiful playing...best Reg

[PaulD]

Sailor, Howard, Jay, Tom, Tony, Frank & Reg - I can't tell you how much I appreciate all the encouraging comments! Thank you!

Originally Posted by fep

Is that E altered over that first break? Sounds real cool.

yes…I was thinking mostly F melodic minor over that break, as if playing over an E7#5#9

Originally Posted by fep

And the chords (built in 4ths right?) at the end, that open sus sound that makes it 'hang' a bit, very nice.

I thought I'd re-state the 5 notes of the opening melody at the end in an effort to bring it all full-circle. I had added the Am6 chord at the end on my backing track (instead of landing on a Cmaj7 after the last Dm7 - G7). The 4ths just kind of happened

Paul

[fep]

Originally Posted by Sailor

Great playing Paul!! I'm going to transcribe some of it...like how you combine chords and melody and keep with the melody a lot of times.

Thanks, Sailor

Hey Sailor, good idea. Will you share with the group?

[Sailor]

I have started transcribing the solo but it takes me forever, and I have limited time...right now just catching the feel and some licks.

How do I post a transcription?? I don't have any software for this (I don't think) Sorry...I'm kinda old

Sailor

[Reg]

Originally Posted by Sailor

How do I post a transcription?? I don't have any software for this (I don't think) Sorry...I'm kinda old

Sailor

Wow someone from my world... I remember scratching out music (composing music) in front of a moviola, I still have a Cal 20.... my secret... I use my son to keep me up to date. I recently started live streaming gigs on the net... very cool... thanks to my son. If you don't have one... borrow one... best Reg

[Sailor]

Yeah...I write music on staff paper in the library while my little girl plays and reads...people look at me like I'm crazy...no instrument or nuttin'

Sailor

[Reg]

Are we done with FMTTM and are we doing another tune...or is everyone sick of talking about tunes... The way I was taught years ago... is you keep adding to your repertoire, a little quicker also. As your learn new tunes you keep playing through the old charts as needed. Sometime as you learn new tunes you get information that helps with the older tunes.
Maybe we should pick a new tune and solo in specific style, for example create a new melody that connects the harmonic motion,(chords) and use one of the standard methods of embellishment of transformation,( improvisation) to develop and re-harmonize the new melody.... I'm easy... just looking for more ways to develop our playing abilities...Best Reg

[oilywrag]

Hi Reg if you want I can start a new poll.Then we can get going again.

Tom

[mynewguitar]

Speaking selfishly for myself, that would be most welcome. I'm thoroughly enjoying this discussion.

[wizard3739]

Reg has the right idea here, IMHO, we are ready for another tune. I also think we should ask to put it into something other than the theory section thread. Perhaps a "Tune Analysis" or or something similar. I really enjoy the different approaches I hear from everyone when they post their version of improvising on a tune. This is my favorite thread and much more fun, interesting and helpful than some of the "nitpicking" (no offense intended here) that seems to be growing in some of our other threads.

wiz

[fep]

@ Reg, great ideas. Let the fun continue.

Reg, Kenbennett and I posted some questions for you over at the previous Have You Met Miss Jones thread. If you get a chance to take a look that would be cool.

http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/theor...tml#post118755

[tonyknight]

I don't know if it would be appropriate, but I was wondering if it might be interesting to take a non-jazz standard and go through the process of how it can be improvised from its basic chords into a jazz format?

For example, taking a song like Roy Orbson's "Crying" or Don McClean's "Castles in the Air" - I'm trying to think of songs which are well done in their own right - not just basic I-IV-V and which might lend themselves to some creativity.

Of course, any song would work, although if this is a good idea, it might be better to stay away from those which haven't already been done many times like some of the Beatles tunes... What do you think?

[oilywrag]

The Poll for the new song has now opened and will close in 6 days.

the songs are

Autumn Leaves
Anthropology
Ceora
Four
Bright size Life
Take Five
Just Friends
Loverman

Thanks

Tom

[Jazzaluk]

I think it is a great idea to add another tune. There is no reason the other tune analysis threads can't continue to live on if anyone wants to add some sounds or ask some questions. I hope to contribute if I can get some time to set up the recording gizmos.

It would be nice to address some tunes that have unique progressions. Like the bridge on Miss Jones, which interestingly did not garner much attention. Seemed the diminished chord won the day.

Also, Tony' idea of treating a pop tune in a jazz style would be an interesting challenge. Of course the tune would have to be reasonably well crafted to work.

As the Wiz says, the theory bickering on some the other threads is getting a little tiresome and are, quite frankly, not very useful.

[Sailor]

Love the interactive song/poll/analysis thing!! Wish I could contribute more...I'm just learning and listening now.

Thanks to all for your help,Sailor

[Reg]

I'll go along with what ever the group wants to do... lets just do something... good poll Tom...Reg

[Sailor]

Where do you vote...I'm for autumn leaves, Loverman, and I'd LOVE to see a blues/jazz like Billies Bounce but that may be too easy for you guys!!

Sailor

[wizard3739]

My vote is for Ceora but any tune we select would be great!

wiz

[tonyknight]

Hey Sailor - I think we're all here to learn, AND as Wiz says, because (usually) we don't get sidetracked by some of the other nonsense :-) And yeah, a really nice jazz-blues would be wonderful. That's the problem, really. It's all good!

Thanks all of you for the participation that you're continuing to put in. I'm still trying to monitor things, but with less time than a few weeks ago - I've got a dissertation deadline coming up way too fast :-) But I'm still going to be here to give me those much needed breaks!

[fep]

Originally Posted by wizard3739

I also think we should ask to put it into something other than the theory section thread. Perhaps a "Tune Analysis" or or something similar. I really enjoy the different approaches I hear from everyone when they post their version of improvising on a tune. This is my favorite thread and much more fun, interesting and helpful than some of the "nitpicking" (no offense intended here) that seems to be growing in some of our other threads.
wiz

Originally Posted by Jazzaluk

As the Wiz says, the theory bickering on some the other threads is getting a little tiresome and are, quite frankly, not very useful.

+1 and +1

Yeah, out of the theory section and come up with a new title for the thread.

In the title, I think the word 'practical' is good and maybe we should avoid the word 'theory'.

Any ideas?

My concept of these threads is buddies hanging out, having a beer, trading licks, some practice ideas, and learning to play some new tunes.

[oilywrag]

+1 To all the ideas up to now.Perhaps it could be called The Practical Standards Group

Then move it to the Lessons forum...al least then it should avoid any hassle.

Just my £00.02p worth

cheers,

Tom

[ohlcv]

How about something along these lines?

Standards Workshop: Fly me to the moon
Standards Workshop: Autumn Leaves
...

[Reg]

Originally Posted by ohlcv

How about something along these lines?

Standards Workshop: Fly me to the moon
Standards Workshop: Autumn Leaves
...

Sound somewhat standard, That was the name of a jazz tune I composed years ago,
"Somewhat Standard", anyway very cool...Reg

[santiboy]

Does anybody still have the PDF and the backing track as I would like to have a go at this standard?

[Franklin52]

Originally Posted by santiboy

Does anybody still have the PDF and the backing track as I would like to have a go at this standard?

Hmm.. have you read the first post of this thread?

http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/theor...td_post_115276

Regards

[Chri44ophe55]

Happy New Year everyone...

Thanks Tom -let's get going!
Cheers,
Tony

[tonyknight]

Hi everyone - the last post is too bizarre. It is a copy of a post which I submitted on January 6th and it has nothing to do with me - I have no idea where this came from.

Cheers,
Tony - the real one :-)