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Old 01-11-2012, 02:13 PM
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Help Help with django chords substitutions

Hello!

Well, I am a huge django fan, and want to know especially how to substitute chords in manouche jazz (if the chords are already given but you want to add some "django" in it).

For example lets say the Stella by Starlight is given in my book I can see what chords to use there. But the chords therein are too "slim" for my musicality, I want some more. I want to know how the django players substitute chords in their works.

For example here:

Rocky Gresset & Adrien Moignard - Stella by Starlight - YouTube

So my question is:

Is there any kind of book or downloadable pdf where I can find tablets for chords substitution? Especially standards >>> manouche?

Or If You have just any instructions (theory) how to do that, leave a comment with it, please.

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Those are contemporary gypsy players, and use much the same harmonies as a modern mainstream jazz guitarist would use.

A few pointers for the classic Django style:
As a general rule of thumb, in gypsy jazz, major and minor 6th chords are used instead of maj7 and m7. Some times, II-V-I's are chopped up to be just V-I's.
When playing a dominant 13th chord, they often like to use the b9 in the bass instead of the root. Just take your basic root position dom13th chord(the one with the a string skipped), and raise the root a half step.
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Those are contemporary gypsy players, and use much the same harmonies as a modern mainstream jazz guitarist would use.

A few pointers for the classic Django style:
As a general rule of thumb, in gypsy jazz, major and minor 6th chords are used instead of maj7 and m7. Some times, II-V-I's are chopped up to be just V-I's.
When playing a dominant 13th chord, they often like to use the b9 in the bass instead of the root. Just take your basic root position dom13th chord(the one with the a string skipped), and raise the root a half step.

Thanks!
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:14 AM
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Thanks a lot bro!
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Valuable Gypsy Jazz forum here
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Thanks bro!

I rush check it now!
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A similar subject :
http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/compi...rd-chords.html

The minor chord is often a minor 6,
and the dominant 7 chord is often a major 9.

Gbm6 & Cb9

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Rocky Gresset is one of my favorite guitarist.
He's a wonderful improviser.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:21 PM
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Some excellent info here; one free lesson is all about subs:

Kanaal van GypsyJazzSchool - YouTube
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thanks for the infos guys!
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