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01-08-2011, 08:17 AM
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| | Posting licks on the forum I would suggest a new feature for the forum: posting short licks with playback option. It can be implemented easily by adding new button to the editor and adjusting CSS: Jazz Licks on Your Page The service is free and contains no ads, so there's a very little chance it can make the forum worse. If it seems reasonable to you, please write me a PM and I'll help you to make it working.
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01-08-2011, 09:35 AM
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| | That's an interesting idea, and it's very well made.
It'd be better to specify clef instead of 'lick'/'walking bass'/'guitar tabs unaccompanied'/'piano solo'.
But nice work. | 
01-08-2011, 09:57 AM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by CGKnight That's an interesting idea, and it's very well made.
It'd be better to specify clef instead of 'lick'/'walking bass'/'guitar tabs unaccompanied'/'piano solo'.
But nice work. | Thank you for the feedback. The service actually handles not only clef, but pattern as well. For example a guitar tabs can be either a walking line, or a solo, or something else. And a user may be interested in searching guitar tabs containing just walking bass lines excluding all other stuff. So "guitar tabs unaccompanied" actually reads as "guitar tabs containing unaccompanied guitar (to be perfomed without rhythm section)", and e.g. "piano solo" = "piano staves containing a piece of solo (i.e. rhythm section may be required)"
All that akward notation can be simplified if you are not interested in classiication of your licks for further searches. In that case "piano", "lick", "bass", "guitar", "guitar tabs" should work just well. | 
01-08-2011, 10:34 AM
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| | Nifty. I think this could be a great addition to the forum.
__________________ "I can not overemphasize how important it is to sing what you play or play what you are singing. You do not have to be a singer. You don't have to sing loudly, or even above your breath. Scatting, as this is sometimes called, directly improves your ability to play what you heard, which in turn sounds less like someone playing memorized patterns." Herb Ellis | 
01-08-2011, 10:51 AM
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| | I went to your page and here is how one of your examples looked like: Quote:
lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 r r2 | | It's like learning a new language. Is that what you intended? | 
01-08-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fep I went to your page and here is how one of your examples looked like:
lick 4/4 g#8 | A7 a c# e g bb c16 bb a8 g | Dm7 f d a g f d a b~ | Dm7 b4 r r2 |
It's like learning a new language. Is that what you intended? | Not much different that the format used by Lilypond. Takes a little getting used to but very easy once you get the hang of it.
EDIT:
Looking at the output, I bet it is Lilypond!
This is a great idea. I would love to see it implemented here.
Last edited by FatJeff : 01-08-2011 at 11:15 AM.
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01-08-2011, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fep It's like learning a new language. Is that what you intended? | Not exactly. The primary goal was simplify knowledge and experience exchange between musicians. I'm not a pro, though I would like to be the one. My inability to play well turned into a series of free projects aimed to help young musicans to adopt new information easily.
Concerning the notation. If you deal with music typesettings system you have to learn new language, take for example the LilyPond project - the best free music typesetting system for the moment. The example you pointed to can be written in LilyPond notation as follows:
\version "2.xx.xx"
\layout {
indent = 0\mm
line-width = 175\mm
ragged-last = ##f
ragged-first = ##f
}
melody = \relative c' {
\clef "treble"
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\partial 8*1
gis8 |
a8 cis8 e8 g8 bes8 c16 bes16 a8 g8 |
f8 d8 a8 g8 f8 d8 a8 b8~ |
b4 r4 r2 |
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r8*1 a4*4:7 d4*4:m7 d4*4:m7
}
\score {
<<
\new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
}
\new Staff \melody
>>
}
And believe me, lilypond notation is not a hard nut to crack as compared to MusixTeX. So I did my best to make notation as simple as possible. It still seems to be the best choice for me at least for treble and bass clef licks. You don't have to learn it if don't like to, but my point is that if you see a lick you would like to correct, you can do it without much learning.
Thanks for the comment. | 
01-08-2011, 11:49 AM
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| | Is that how it will display, or will it display as tab or music notation?
I think this is the part I'm not understanding. | 
01-08-2011, 12:07 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by fep Is that how it will display, or will it display as tab or music notation?
I think this is the part I'm not understanding. | I'm not sure I'm following you completely. We are talking about WYSIWYM music typesettings systems. Unlike WYSIWYG editors like Finale, where you see scores while editing exactly like they will look like after printing, WYSIWYM systems print scores after processing text input. The said example is that text input one has to feed to LilyPond to generate lick image. | 
01-08-2011, 02:44 PM
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| | I have a good deal of Lilypond knowledge (albeit two years outdated, since I started to use Sibelius), so if anyone has questions on that, I'll do my best to answer.
Fep, the notation you see is like the source code you would write for a C program. You have to feed it into a "compiler" for it to give you your desired output/behavior. In this case you're supplying Lilypond source code that will display as notes on the page. It's like supplying HTML code to a script on a webpage that will then render in your browser.
Basic idea of the Lilypond notation:
Notes: a = the note "A", b= B, etc.
Accidentals: # and b are sharp and flat
A number following a note designates its duration. If you don't specifiy the duration for each note, it assumes the last used duration.
So, Db16 is a D flat sixteenth note. c# is C sharp. The sequence <eb4 f g ab8 bb> would be quarter notes Eb, F, G followed by sixteenth notes Ab and Bb.
The "pipe" symbol | serves as a barline.
There is a text editor (works on both Linux and Windows) called Jedit that has a Lilypond plugin that makes formatting charts a lot easier. I Used to use it a lot when I was doing a lot of layouts in Lilypond. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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