How Insensitive (Group Collaborative)

jzucker · #1 05-21-2011, 08:53 AM

OK, here's the backing track. I couldn't upload the original one due to copyright issues (it was an aebersold) but this one was generated with BIAB and is the same tempo.

SoundClick artist: jackzucker - page with MP3 music downloads

Just post a followup with your version!

jzucker · #2 05-21-2011, 08:54 AM

Here's my original over the aebersold track.

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fep · #3 05-21-2011, 12:31 PM

I love these group participation posts and this is an awesome tune. However, it's a bit intimidating for me to post my playing on this, you've set the bar awfully high. (I have an inconvienant excuse though, I'm still living at the hospital and don't have recording equipment).

Reg · #4 05-21-2011, 01:51 PM

Yea Jack... great, I have this goofy gig this afternoon, Part of house band for finals of this soul singer competition, sponsored by Local Radio Station, and short gig tonight , but I'll listen and record something cool late tonight... Reg

Jake Hanlon · #5 05-21-2011, 02:29 PM

i'm going to have to record this with a live band. I have no problem with ppl using backing tracks but I just can't play with them, I tried to do a few takes but I just can't do it. Which is my own problem, lots of people end up working really well with them. I have pretty regular sessions so I'll just do it at the next one.

wizard3739 · #6 05-21-2011, 05:50 PM

Hey Jack, Count me in. I downloaded the backing track and it is excellent for Play-A-Long & practise. Which style (BIAB style) did you use?

wiz

jzucker · #7 05-21-2011, 06:37 PM

i used the RealStyle _BOSSAN Bossa w Ny-ElGuit _Pno (140 RS)

mr. beaumont · #8 05-21-2011, 07:31 PM

Well, I'm definitely in...just gotta find time. Hopefully this week.

jayx123 · #9 05-22-2011, 02:33 AM

JZucker - great playing as usual

Here is a recording I did on this a while back
how.mp3 - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage

MortenFaerestrand · #10 05-22-2011, 08:43 AM

So, I read this while eating breakfast and got a cool idea on how to do it. Well, I thought it was cool anyway... ;-)

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jzucker · #11 05-22-2011, 09:03 AM

fantastic Morten!

MortenFaerestrand · #12 05-22-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jzucker

fantastic Morten!

Thanks man, and right back at'cha!

kris · #13 05-22-2011, 12:16 PM

Thanks Morten...fresh playing.
I like everything: sound, conception,exelent phrasing.

Jazzingly
kris

M-ster · #14 05-22-2011, 12:46 PM

Dug the alternate approach, Morten. It might have been cooler without the programmed percussion/drums. I know they imply the groove you're hearing, but they're kind of distracting relative to the good stuff you have going on here. Just my 2.

(Er ... you'll note that I haven't posted anything, as yet.

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mr. beaumont · #15 05-22-2011, 01:17 PM

I'll throw my hat in the ring, although I'm feeling rather humbled after hearing these!

Jack, you already knew I liked yours a bunch...Morten--excellent! THe new cool, man!

Anyway here's mine...Had enough time for one quick take...I'd like to blame the playing on my finger, but the truth is, it feels pretty good today--there's only a few instances where it hurt on this take (and one of 'em's probably my best line!)

Enjoy:

ezFolk: Jeff matz

Stringbean · #16 05-22-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MortenFaerestrand

So, I read this while eating breakfast and got a cool idea on how to do it. Well, I thought it was cool anyway... ;-)

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Challenging listening and a worthwhile pay off. Great use of the fade out ending. Bravo.

MortenFaerestrand · #17 05-22-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M-ster

Dug the alternate approach, Morten. It might have been cooler without the programmed percussion/drums. I know they imply the groove you're hearing, but they're kind of distracting relative to the good stuff you have going on here. Just my 2.

(Er ... you'll note that I haven't posted anything, as yet.

)

Thank you, glad you liked it!

I don't think the percussion is distracting. It's stiff and monotone, and the drum sound isn't very jazzy, but I did in in one minute, and it's there just to show how the arrangement could be, the basic groove.

It's quite possible I'll use this arrangement with my trio, I though it was fun to play on, and many opportunities to explore both with the groove and the chords..

MortenFaerestrand · #18 05-22-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont

I'll throw my hat in the ring, although I'm feeling rather humbled after hearing these!

Jack, you already knew I liked yours a bunch...Morten--excellent! THe new cool, man!

Thanks man! Some FINE playing in your take as well!

tytlfamily · #19 05-22-2011, 02:29 PM

Hey Guys, Wonderful playing, each version brings a different style and sound, truly a great learning experience.

Would anyone care to elaborate on how you approached this song? Chord tone, scales, arp choices, and whether you are thinking about outlining the chords, or using muti-bar phrases with scales?

Thanks for any help, and it is wonderful to watch you guys play.

tytlfamily

MortenFaerestrand · #20 05-22-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tytlfamily

Would anyone care to elaborate on how you approached this song? Chord tone, scales, arp choices, and whether you are thinking about outlining the chords, or using muti-bar phrases with scales?

tytlfamily

No problem, if you point to specific places in the solo. Can't really go through the whole thing..

j/k - it's Aminor pentatone fram start to finnish. ;-)

tytlfamily · #21 05-22-2011, 02:47 PM

Ok, thanks, how about the first 8 bars, looks like Dmin9, C#Dim, Cmin6, G7.

seems like you could use D Dorian, or B flat Maj scales over that first 8 bars, except for the C#Dim, maybe use an Arpeggio over that C#Dim?

tytlfamily

tytlfamily · #22 05-22-2011, 02:57 PM

j/k - it's Aminor pentatone fram start to finnish. ;-)

Did not see that......maybe I'm over thinking it

mr. beaumont · #23 05-22-2011, 03:01 PM

I think morten might be having a little bit of a laugh there...

You didn't ask me specifically, but I think of that C# dim. As a A7b9...my playing is almost all arpeggio based in my take.

Reg · #24 05-22-2011, 04:44 PM

I dig these Threads... I think the level of play is movin on up on this forum... Yea... I did quick take over Jack's track... very cool Jack. thanks. Great Playing by all, really beautiful, Morton, burnin man I'm diggin it. I had a soul and then a R&B gig yesterday and last night, and have to get to my dinner jazz gig in a min. But I'll post a cool version tomorrow, I posted a sample of feel.... probable due to style of gigs...Reg

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Reg · #25 05-22-2011, 04:59 PM

Hey Morten... Your track almost sounds like you could go into 3/4 or 6/8, in two feel... afro cuban groove... the tunes pretty long, and always a little depressing to me, Not your version... the standard Jobin version... anyway... might be cool feel... Reg

wizard3739 · #26 05-22-2011, 09:20 PM

This is a great tune and everyone has a different approach to it. Wow! What a great learning opportunity! All of you are really good guitar players and this is like one big jam session where all can participate. I will do my best to get something out tomorrow.

wiz

MortenFaerestrand · #27 05-23-2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reg

Hey Morten... Your track almost sounds like you could go into 3/4 or 6/8, in two feel... afro cuban groove... the tunes pretty long, and always a little depressing to me, Not your version... the standard Jobin version... anyway... might be cool feel... Reg

Yeah, it's that 3 over four thing, I like that, could go either way. I needed to do something about the groove, whenever I try to solo over these tunes in straight bossa nova I bore myself to death. you know, that feeling when every phrase you play seems utterly un-relevant..

MortenFaerestrand · #28 05-23-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tytlfamily

Ok, thanks, how about the first 8 bars, looks like Dmin9, C#Dim, Cmin6, G7.

seems like you could use D Dorian, or B flat Maj scales over that first 8 bars, except for the C#Dim, maybe use an Arpeggio over that C#Dim?

tytlfamily

Not D dorian, D minor

My reharm is | Dm | Eb7 A7 | Cm6 | Db7 G7 | I guess it's a tritone sub of some kind.

So in the first chorus for bar two it's Eb mixo#11 / A7alt stuff, same thing with Db/G7. C dorian, or D minor pentatone for Cm6

Also, I like to play Bb minor pentatone over Eb7 and A7alt and just replace the 7th with the 6th. Or keep the 7th for a slightly outside sound! For example:

Dm - A minor pentatone
Eb7 A7 - Bb minor pentatone
Cm - D minor pentatone
Db7 G7 - Ab minor pentatone

these aproaches would work over the regular chords too!

abdke99 · #29 05-23-2011, 07:58 AM

I will probably humiliate myself with this video, but i think its a great thread and I want to be part of it, also great respect to Jake, Jzucker, Morten, Reg, Mr.Beaumont, Wizard...list goes on, so here is my small contribution

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ESCC · #30 05-23-2011, 09:00 AM

[quote=MortenFaerestrand;146189]So, I read this while eating breakfast and got a cool idea on how to do it. Well, I thought it was cool anyway... ;-)

So . . . what were you eating for breakfast? I think I should add it to my diet if it'll help me play that well!

Great stuff - by all five who have posted, thanks for sharing.