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02-22-2009, 12:40 PM
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| | bossa nova hi everyone!
any advice on how to play that fascinating smoothly flowing
bossa style ( Baden Powell, Jobim,Joao Gilberto...)?
I appreciate any answer
stay tuned
Hubert | 
02-22-2009, 02:20 PM
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02-22-2009, 04:26 PM
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| | fwiw, this is how i got started in bossa nova. my brother-in-law and our guitar teacher were playing manha de carnaval. i *had* to learn that cool rhythm line, so i made them stop and show me the rhythm part, which just totally lends itself to little fills and moving the bass line around. it's definitely my favorite song, whether playing rhythm, lead or solo chord melody. basically, i have to be shown how to do it from a real person, i.e. books, dvds etc. just don't work for me, but i'd definitely recommend starting out with manha de carnaval in any event
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02-22-2009, 07:07 PM
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by derek | I second that motion. Emily Remler speaks the musical truth about the Bossa. It's a lot simpler that is sounds and she goes through the rhythm step by step. If you can't find the video, here's the gist of the whole thing. The bass is played on strictly on beats 1 and 3 rather than the 2 and 4. She says not to deviate from that or syncopate the bass line. The chords are syncopated rather than the bass line. It takes a bit of practice to get it down perfect but when you do, you'll really hear the difference. | 
02-22-2009, 11:32 PM
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| | "bossa nova should almost play itself, ride along easily with everything rather understated..."
Sounds a little bit strange to me, because I'm not able to manage my singing with the rhythm ( old spanish mirrored one, isn't it?)
Must be a lack of practice or lazyness...
as far as "chord-melody" is concerned, I love that piece "garota de Ipanema" by Antonio Carlos Jobim e Vinicius Moraes
Anybody here, who knows "Jack Marshall"?
thanks all you friendly guys
best forum of all... | 
02-22-2009, 11:39 PM
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| | hi,
but you don't mean "carneval in venice"?
I've heard of manha de carneval, but can't remember exactly what it was.
A tef or a ptab hint?
thanks ( would like further explanation of your technique - certainly you're right - persons who can play might help when demonstrating live - but for the time being no opportunity for me - I'm autodidact
have a nice time on your guitar - fascinating instrument
hubert from Tirol (austria) | 
02-23-2009, 06:32 AM
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| | mahana de carnaval.......a day in the life of a fool is from that show/movie..
good bossa tune...CM style first time through then single string improvising or Wes octaves...
time on the instrument..pierre | 
02-23-2009, 04:41 PM
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| | mah sure,
a day in a life of a fool...
that's me
so I should be able to accompany my singing...
thanks pierre | 
02-24-2009, 12:54 AM
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02-24-2009, 08:02 PM
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| | This is good, as is part II | 
04-05-2009, 03:39 AM
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| | thanks for all the links, it was helpful!  | 
10-25-2009, 11:47 PM
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| | In my opinion, the best Bossa Nova teaching book is the one by Carlos Arana It is named "Bossa Nova Guitar" and easy to buy from the Internet.
What I really like about it is its systematic and exhaustive approach which really gives a very strong basis for future playing, which I did not really find in any other book (and I have many), including the essence of Bossa Nova playing "Never plays the same thing repeatedly" put another way, always use subtle rythm variations.
The only missing things in this book are the use of arpegios and the emphasizing of a note - actually two, generally differing by a semi-tone - between two successive chords. Listen carefully to Joŕo Gilberto for this.
One thing I also recommend is to get advices/lessons from a Brazilian teacher. I did so, not really for the technical aspects (40 years of playing) but to really improve my style and the tiny details. This kind of music is so deeply rooted in them, that they can immediately spot what's awkward in your playing, even subtle things, and give you good advice of how to improve it.
As you probably guessed it, I'm more of a Bossa Nova nylon guitar player (and singer) than of a Jazz Guitar guy. Hope this helps | 
10-25-2009, 11:53 PM
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02-23-2010, 05:14 PM
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