Gospel Shouting Chords

[JazzFanatik]

Okay I realize this may be going WAY out on a limb, because I can't seem to find this ANYWHERE. But does anyone by any chance know the chords to play for Gospel Shouting music?

Has anyone ever played this style? Reg maybe?

[robertm2000]

When I was in college I played the piano for a lady who performed a gospel number for a Black History week program. The music itself was very similar to R&B style. The main difference seemed to be the performance style. A real ease with the rhythm - it was just me and a fabulous drummer - and an openness to and real flexibility with improvisation.

The main thing was a very emotional manner of performing - gospel is talking about, after all, eternal verities and where we're spending the hereafter. So the performers take it seriously by putting all the intensity they could gather into the song. I think a combination of soul type musicianship - the chords and melody - and the intensity of the blues - the performance style - would get you close to it.

It's a cultural difference, I think. European type musicians came to music via the academic route - learning it in school through hard study - and African, and African American music weren't allowed the academic route so the personal element was a large determining factor there. Schooling versus personal experience in a nutshell. The difference between jazz that swings and jazz that doesn't, among other things.

[mr. beaumont]

LOts of dominant chords, a lot of times the shout will be a two chord vamp (I IV) with occaisonally a turnaround the players sort of "feel" when to get into...

So try rocking A7 to D7 for a bit, then play C#7 to F#7, B7 to E7.

Feel free to have some fun with that last dominant...7#9 smokes there...

Sometimes it's more like a jazz blues...but most of the time I hear it as vamps, with some seriously jazzy playing over the top....

[JazzFanatik]

cool thanks! ill try this!

[fep]

Get out a chart to Mercy Mercy Mercy and study those chords and rhythms.

YouTube Video

[timscarey]

Originally Posted by JazzFanatik

Okay I realize this may be going WAY out on a limb, because I can't seem to find this ANYWHERE. But does anyone by any chance know the chords to play for Gospel Shouting music?

Has anyone ever played this style? Reg maybe?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "shouting music" but I did spend 2 years of my life touring with a gospel choir right out of college.

Mr.B is right, the long, drawn out vamp sections are usually just I and IV back to back.

I would say that most of the chords you will find in gospel music are actually triads more so than dominant chords. I once go hired to transcribe a few of the choirs arrangments and found that almost all of the vocal parts where closed position triads with just a few dominants here and there (in C you might get C7-F.... E7-Am... or D7-G.)

as the bassist, I often played the 3rd of a dominant chord in the bass to create walk-ups. F--D7/F#--G--E7/G#--Am

the minor and dominany IV chords are often used in place of a five chord. to instead of just V-I.... we often played V-iv-I or V-IV7-I to end a song.

hope that helps.

[Helgo]

Hi!

You can look up Kevin Wilson´s´channel on youtube ("kwilson27278"). Somebody at another forum recommended him a while back for gospel stuff. I didn´t really check it out that thouroughly myself, but maybe there´s something for you there...

Cheers,
H.

[jazzuki]

Take a look @ Ted Greene.com under Lessons/Blues-there is a Gospel influenced Blues which you can down load and print off-this will give you the basic idea-hope it helps?

[Helgo]

Originally Posted by jazzuki

Take a look @ Ted Greene.com under Lessons/Blues-there is a Gospel influenced Blues which you can down load and print off-this will give you the basic idea-hope it helps?

jazzuki, did you mean this:
http://tedgreene.com/images/lessons/...1990-10-10.pdf

I can´t figure out how to read this (rhythmically). Do you get it? How does it work?

Cheers,
H.

[mr. beaumont]

I'm not sure if "shouting music" is a CHicago gospel specific term, but it's a very specific thing.

It's when it gets uptempo, the bass walks like crazy over that vamp, the drummer takes the time keeping to the ride and everybody really gets into it.

[wolflen]

my take

gospel music to me is the africian american church based piano/organ bass/drums and singers

the wide voiced chords on the piano and moving bass lines that gave the impression the music was going slow even when the beat was going fast..and the call & response of the singers all meeting at the same place then relax and begin again...using simple techniques but making them melt from the heat they generated..love that stuff...

trying to get "that" flavor on guitar is asking a bit much...even getting the chord structure correct misses out on the total feel...you need a piano to get the "big" sound of the chords and moving bass lines...

[jazzuki]

Originally Posted by Helgo

jazzuki, did you mean this:
http://tedgreene.com/images/lessons/...1990-10-10.pdf

I can´t figure out how to read this (rhythmically). Do you get it? How does it work?

Cheers,
H.

Sorry I've been late in replying but have been away-I had the same problem but the way I play it is as follows. 40 bpm with accent on 1 & 3-the slash marks at bottom of grid is the beat so as in bar 1 you have 3 chord grids play first two grids a beat apiece last one,1 beat.Bar two 1 beat each.The timing I use is 1&2&3&4&so the 1st bar 1st chord is 1& 2nd chord is 2& 3rd chord is 3&4& .Let the chords ring. The second bar is as written .The feel is of New Orleans funeral march.Once you get used to it you can up the tempo.Hope this is of use?

[ptrallan01]

Search youtube for preaching chords. lots of piano and bass version of them here's one:

Preaching Chords Tutorial Follow a preacher - YouTube