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Old 06-27-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Default Roma (Gypsy) music?

I'm listening to a lot of Django these days, and was wondering what Roma (Gypsy) musicians may have been his biggest influences? I know very little about this music.

Also, feel free to recommend any favorites Roma musicians Thanks!
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I cannot recommend michael dregni's books about django and gypsy jazz highly enough...seek them out, you'll learn a ton of info.
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Seriously simplified (there are likely others here who know far more than I do) Django listened to musettes, 'traditional' Gypsy music and he loved American Jazz. A recent biography says that hearing Louis Armstrong for the first time was a "life-changing" event for Django. It all went in his ears and came out his fingers as something quite new, what we now call "Gypsy Jazz".

On the contemporary front, listen to Stochelo Rosenberg, the lead player of the Rosenberg trio, an awesome place to start. Romane is also wonderful, as is Angelo Debarre ... there are so many. There are also many Gadjo (non-Roma) who play great Gypsy Jazz like Gonzalo Bergera (Argentina), Robin Nolan, Andreas Oberg, John Jorgenson, Neil Andersson of Pearl Django etc.

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Rosenbergs in Vienna:
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Tchavolo Schmitt and Fapy Lafertin
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You'll want this free download Django Fakebook PDF too:
http://www.gypsyguitar.de/downloads/...jango_2008.pdf
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Thanks for all the recommendations, much appreciated.
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I think one should not underestimate the influence of Eastern-European musical tradition to this style. Listen to historical Klezmer recordings f.e. The same goes for musicians who originated from these countries like Benny Goodmann.
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Well i think that django has no comparison yet with others. What you guys think am i right???
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Not sure...will the essay writing service you spam for in your signature have as good a grasp on language as your post?
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Well Mr. Beaumount you have some confusion about me. I am not the spammer when i haven't got any other link so what can i do... Please don't call me as spammer. Otherwise i would have to leave this place.
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Well, around here, we have folks register everyday with signature links completely unrelated to jazz or guitar playing (like yours) who make strange, nebulous posts (like yours) who are spammers. So that's what it looks like.

I'm not sure what you mean by "No other link." You do not need to have a link in your signature.

As a teacher, essay writing services promote academic dishonesty. Not something we want to promote here. Please remove the link from your profile.
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Basically it's my personal academic site. And one more thing i want to tell you that your forum is nofollow means it's literally useless for google. So i just came here to stay connected with you guys which has become a big mistake for me. If you think that i behaving like a spammer or breaking up your forum rules. So i am gonna remove my link. And bye forever. It will be last message on this forum. Good bye.

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I think one should not underestimate the influence of Eastern-European musical tradition to this style. Listen to historical Klezmer recordings f.e. The same goes for musicians who originated from these countries like Benny Goodmann.
Yes, the ancestors of the Roma people in Western Europe emigrated through the middle East and Eastern Europe. Tony Gatlif's 1994 film Latcho Drom chronicles the musical history of the Roma people and their music from ancient India, through Persia to modern Europe.

The video is out of print and thus expensive, but very interesting. Here is one of a number of short clips from the film available on YouTube.
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Basically it's my personal academic site. And one more thing i want to tell you that your forum is nofollow means it's literally useless for google. So i just came here to stay connected with you guys which has become a big mistake for me. If you think that i behaving like a spammer or breaking up your forum rules. So i am gonna remove my link. And bye forever. It will be last message on this forum. Good bye.

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1. Not my forum

2. "No follow?" No comprende.

3. "Stay connected?" How do you stay connected with someone you don't even know?

4. You didn't remove the link.

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Well i think that django has no comparison yet with others. What you guys think am i right???
Maybe have your own company write your posts using better language?
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It's almost too funny to just ban him...I probably should...
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A quality member! What a hoot!

Anyhoo, this is for the OP.
Hernandinho, if you live here in the UK you might want to check this concert out in Edinburgh, £15 sterling will get you an evening with gypsy Django genious-ses-sis (phew).

Edinburgh Jazz Festival - Lafertin, Meier, Limberger Quintet

Fapy Lafertin is a manouche gypsy and an outstanding soloist, £15 is an absolute steal!
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Yeah, let's get back to gypsy jazz!

Who likes Boulou and Elios? Man, these guys are my absolute favorites right now...what chances they take!
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Yeah, let's get back to gypsy jazz!

Who likes Boulou and Elios? Man, these guys are my absolute favorites right now...what chances they take!
Ahh, Mr Beaumont, I saw them in Menorca a couple of years back, I was in the front row, Elios was tight and Boulous is the Hendrix of gypsy jazz (ooer, sweeping statement). They played a classical piece, I recognised the tune but for the life of me I do not know the name! But man they took the theme and then pushed it to a swing beat and just flew, wow. I was so hung up on fixing my sight on Boulous fretting hand that I missed their first number so I closed me eyes for most of the gig!
I don't think they play outside of mainland europe so I guess you'll have to fly over, keep an eye on the Samois festival in France, they play there often.

googling Fapy turned up this
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Boulous is the Hendrix of gypsy jazz (ooer, sweeping statement)

He kinda is though...he's all over the damn place, sometimes a little sloppy, but always searching for something new, never content to just stick with what works...
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Have you seen 'Djangos Legacy'? I have a worn out copy on VHS but it is on DVD.

For your listening pleasure for a lazy Sunday

YouTube Video
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And the irrepressable Ferres Brothers

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He kinda is though...he's all over the damn place, sometimes a little sloppy, but always searching for something new, never content to just stick with what works...
he's as mad as a march hare but gifted!
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I have seen those vids---Fapy's a monster too...He's got such a nice tone...
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Fapy is phenomenal. Lately I've also been enjoying Romane, who I think has a real gift for phrasing. Here is a younger Romane doing a nice version of Django's Waltz (Mont St. Genevieve).
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By the way, thanks for all the recommendations. Quality all around :-) I'm currently listening to the Rosenberg Trio, and will try & find more from some of the other artists you mentioned.
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